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arbre_rieur ([info]arbre_rieur) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-02 00:51:00

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The all-new Ray Palmer
Three pages from this week's Justice League: Cry For Justice #1.

In an early interview James Robinson did for this book, he said: "I defy you to tell me what Ray Palmer’s personality is? There has never been a personality. So that’s one of things I am going to do with him as well, is give him a personality." (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?id=16532&page=article)

Well, what do people think? So far, is he succeeding?







Seriously? Heroes who torture? Is this DC's new thing?

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[info]hybrid2
2009-07-02 08:11 am UTC (link)
woah...the words,they hurt!

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[info]statham1986
2009-07-02 08:14 am UTC (link)
Umm.. WTF? Has Ray been smoking the same shit that drove Jean batshitcrazy? Because there's no way in Hell he'd threaten someone with the same fate his nutty girl used to 'scare' and kill one of his best friends.

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(no subject) - [info]queenanthai, 2009-07-02 08:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 09:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]starwolf_oakley, 2009-07-02 01:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]brandiweed.livejournal.com, 2009-07-02 05:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashtoreth, 2009-07-03 06:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]halloweenjack, 2009-07-02 04:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]statham1986, 2009-07-02 04:44 pm UTC

[info]darklorelei
2009-07-02 08:18 am UTC (link)
Someone needs a hug from Platelet.

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(no subject) - [info]proteus_lives, 2009-07-02 08:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-07-02 08:29 am UTC

[info]icon_uk
2009-07-02 08:30 am UTC (link)
I liked the Grant Morrison Atom I have to say. College Professor first, superhero second... and a really COOL college professor too!

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(no subject) - [info]arbre_rieur, 2009-07-02 08:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-07-02 09:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]scottyquick, 2009-07-02 02:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-07-02 02:16 pm UTC

[info]seriousfic
2009-07-02 08:48 am UTC (link)
And that personality is... AAAAAAAANGST!!!

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[info]kusonaga
2009-07-02 09:05 am UTC (link)
Robinson sounds terribly self-righteous in that interview.

I, also, don't like this Atom.

Ray Palmer does have a personality. It's not this.

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(no subject) - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 09:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]thehefner, 2009-07-02 04:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 07:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thehefner, 2009-07-02 07:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 07:42 pm UTC
"Yeah...JUSTICE!"
[info]jlroberson
2009-07-02 09:13 am UTC (link)
And the personality is Jack Bauer!

Robinson is a writer long since totally "pitch"-perfect, if you know what I mean. So yes, "personality" does mean "grimdark."

You know what? Ray did have a personality. Jan Strnad and Frank Miller in particular got it. (That was one of the few delights of DK2) It's kind of like a more down to earth Reed Richards, one who likes to teach more than cloister, and get laid more than once in a while. (whereas with Reed I imagine sex as something he just doesn't mind, that's all, but not a personal priority)But has-been Robinson killed it, with prep work by Brad Meltzer.

But I've had no respect for that tool ever since he made LOEG into another Howard the Duck: I always have to say, "I don't mean that bad movie" or "the comic's very different from the movie" and sound like a tool. God damn you, James Robinson and your derivative hackery.

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Re: "Yeah...JUSTICE!" - [info]espanolbot, 2009-07-02 10:40 am UTC
Re: "Yeah...JUSTICE!" - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 07:18 pm UTC
Re: "Yeah...JUSTICE!" - [info]espanolbot, 2009-07-02 07:21 pm UTC
Re: "Yeah...JUSTICE!" - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 07:26 pm UTC
Re: "Yeah...JUSTICE!" - [info]espanolbot, 2009-07-02 07:31 pm UTC
Re: "Yeah...JUSTICE!" - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 07:35 pm UTC
I'm speechless.
[info]ulf_boehnke
2009-07-02 09:22 am UTC (link)
I'm speechless.

Is this some kind of Bendis parody?

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Re: I'm speechless. - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 09:40 am UTC
Re: I'm speechless. - [info]filbypott, 2009-07-02 12:55 pm UTC
Re: I'm speechless. - [info]icon_uk, 2009-07-02 02:17 pm UTC
Re: I'm speechless. - [info]jlbarnett, 2009-07-02 09:58 pm UTC
Re: I'm speechless. - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 10:31 pm UTC

[info]leikomgwtfbbq
2009-07-02 09:46 am UTC (link)
I think Pete here speaks for us all. *motions to icon* Or, at the very least, he speaks for me.

BLEAH to GRIMDARK! Atom, and a lot of GRIMDARK! transformations in general.

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[info]killermoth1
2009-07-02 10:47 am UTC (link)
Killer Moth and The Atom in a room together should be awesome, but instead I get a GRIM!DARK version of my favourite villain and favourite darkhorse hero. Boo I say.

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[info]thormonger
2009-07-02 10:55 am UTC (link)
Yeah, someone's been watching too much 24. It works for Jack Bauer, not for Ray Palmer.

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[info]hyperactivator
2009-07-02 11:22 am UTC (link)
Boooo. Booo. Bad writer. You promise personality and give us generic grimdark. Boo.

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(no subject) - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-03 05:20 am UTC

[info]ian_karkull
2009-07-02 12:07 pm UTC (link)
Oh look, it's the Grimdark League featuring Bland Lantern, Dr. Has-Been, Supertorso and Captain Nobody Cares (his magic word is "whatever").
It's kind of hard to see all this irrelevant F-List characters strugling (and failing) to be interesting by pretending to be OMG sooo edgy and not to laugh.


ok, yes, Congorilla is pretty awesome, but if this is any indication of how the serious goes, i dread the moment he bites off the face of some Z-List villain.

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[info]tanetris
2009-07-02 12:41 pm UTC (link)
I like the JLU version better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjcyWuZwnrQ (starting 0:48)

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(no subject) - [info]xandertarbert, 2009-07-02 02:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2009-07-02 02:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thehefner, 2009-07-02 04:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2009-07-03 02:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kingrockwell, 2009-07-02 03:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]proteus_lives, 2009-07-03 08:43 am UTC

[info]majingojira
2009-07-02 01:31 pm UTC (link)
Bah. Currently, I'll take Ryan Choi over this.

God I hope this doesn't dispell him to limbo.

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(no subject) - [info]majingojira, 2009-07-02 05:14 pm UTC

[info]kagome654
2009-07-02 01:33 pm UTC (link)
I can feel my enthusiasm for this title fading....fading....fading!

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(no subject) - [info]thehefner, 2009-07-02 05:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlbarnett, 2009-07-02 10:13 pm UTC

[info]novickian
2009-07-02 01:36 pm UTC (link)
This artwork is simply is amazing. First art I saw this morning, and it is sending me on my way with a peaceful, easy feeling, despite the context.

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[info]scottyquick
2009-07-02 02:04 pm UTC (link)
Bright side, gorgeous art and RYAAAAN!!

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[info]perletwo
2009-07-02 02:50 pm UTC (link)
Dude. I seriously hope you're going to take a long, long shower before you go looking for ... JUSTICE!!!11!!1!

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(no subject) - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 10:44 pm UTC

[info]gailsimone
2009-07-02 03:03 pm UTC (link)
I haven't read this yet, but that's a very nice Ryan Choi James has written, right there. Cool!

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(no subject) - [info]suzene, 2009-07-02 03:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gailsimone, 2009-07-02 04:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]suzene, 2009-07-02 09:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bluejaybirdie, 2009-07-02 10:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-07-02 03:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kingrockwell, 2009-07-02 03:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 10:34 pm UTC

[info]xammax
2009-07-02 03:20 pm UTC (link)
So the next time someone asks why Batman had all those plans, and why did he need to be paranoid because his friends would never ever do something like this... remember this. Apparently they were all just waiting for him to die, and now that he has they think their safe.

Their needs to be Bat-whoopings when he returns. Even though he does some scary shit himself.

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[info]kingrockwell
2009-07-02 03:29 pm UTC (link)
Well, for one thing, Ray Palmer likes to hide in sandwiches.

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(no subject) - [info]scottyquick, 2009-07-02 03:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-03 05:17 am UTC
Superdictionary FTW! - [info]bluejaybirdie, 2009-07-02 10:40 pm UTC

[info]pyrotwilight
2009-07-02 05:52 pm UTC (link)
It tells me something that I want Tomorrow Woman to come in and flip out over what the League's doing. That or lobotimize them.

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(no subject) - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-02 10:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyrotwilight, 2009-07-03 02:48 am UTC

[info]parsimonia
2009-07-02 06:09 pm UTC (link)
So...what's all this about Killer Moth swimming in a time pool? Anything to do with that Booster Gold arc a while back?

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(no subject) - [info]jlroberson, 2009-07-03 05:17 am UTC
Meanwhile in Super hero Heaven:
[info]yaseen101
2009-07-02 06:43 pm UTC (link)
BRUCE: HA!! I told you Clark! I told you something like this would happen! But nooooo, we are all superheroes we are suppoused to trust them!! Who's the crazy psycho now huh Clark? Who's the crazy psycho now!! *does Dr. Moist's happy dance* Meanwhile Clark suddenly wakes up next to Lois: Clark: Lois??!! Lois: mmmmhhmm, what is it Clark? Clark: I think we need to cut down on the sugar before bed.

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