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June 18th, 2009
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Hello- I need help on information
This is the Black Cat, you know the nut that does the Batman and Sons webcomic. :)

I need some help on some information concerning Jason Todd's stepmother, Catherine Todd. I have a person who posted on my Deviantart account that she was a drug addict. I searched through my collection but found nothing referring to this. All I know is she died of an illness.

Does anyone know if this is true?

I will appreciate the help. :)

Thank you, and also, I want to thank you all for the great support you have given me for the webcomic.

Have a great day!

TBC


And image... I hope I did everything right.


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From:[info]crinosg
Date:June 18th, 2009 08:36 am (UTC)
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Welcome to the community. Big fan of your work.

Anyways, I'm not the biggest Jason Todd buff, but this is the first I've heard of such a thing. I also heard she just died of an illness. Unless this is something that's come post Death in the family.
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From:[info]sherkahn
Date:June 18th, 2009 08:48 am (UTC)
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Normally I would also say "motto" or something to "I agree" but time and effort and respect must be paid.

LOVE your work, Black_Cat. Every image and post you make of Batman and Sons makes my day, heck, makes my MONTH. The world is a better place with your tributes out there.

As for the Jason Todd art, wish I could help, but I know the community will do there best to oblige.
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From:[info]tanetris
Date:June 18th, 2009 12:08 pm (UTC)
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Bigtime motto. Huge frickin motto.
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From:[info]the_black_cat_
Date:June 18th, 2009 08:52 pm (UTC)
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I remember when I posted the first story (Back to the Cave), wondering if I made the biggest and most embarrassing mistake in my (artistic) life. I have to say, I'm still taken back on how much this series has been embraced.

I can never say it enough: Thank you. :)

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From:[info]the_black_cat_
Date:June 18th, 2009 08:32 pm (UTC)
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Thank you, but I have been a lurker since daily_scans started here. :)
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From:[info]daggerpen
Date:June 18th, 2009 09:34 am (UTC)
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I've heard both versions of her death, though I can't link to scans for either one, I'm afraid. I've also seen a version where it was a combination of both (I believe she became ill, presumably with HIV/AIDs, through a contaminated needle, and died as a result of that), but that was in fanon.

Regardless, I don't believe there's definitive canon that would make it either, so it's up to your discretion, I suppose.
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From:[info]shadwing
Date:June 18th, 2009 10:08 am (UTC)
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The only image I can find (I don't have it scanned dang it) is in Death in the Family where it just shows her hooked up to a resperator and notes "...her life was cut short by an illness that didn't care how much love she had in her heart"
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From:[info]retro_nouveau
Date:June 18th, 2009 09:52 am (UTC)
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Hi! Just want to say: You ain't nothin' but a real cool breeze!
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From:[info]superfan1
Date:June 18th, 2009 10:18 am (UTC)
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Yep in Batman issue 409, she dies from a OD.



But in Batman issue 426, she dies from an illness.



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From:[info]lover_youshould
Date:June 18th, 2009 10:43 am (UTC)
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This is purely speculation, but one could always argue that perhaps she OD's from drugs she was taking to cope with said illness. Cheap medical care, etc. I don't think it would be much of a stretch to assume that the Todds didn't have health insurance.
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From:[info]janegray
Date:June 18th, 2009 02:36 pm (UTC)
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Considering that horribly wrecked state of Jason's room when Batman found him, frankly I doubt Catherine Todd could afford any medical care at all.
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From:[info]sir_razorback
Date:June 18th, 2009 11:49 am (UTC)
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I bet they decided to soften up her death for the kidlets when they wrote the more recent reference.
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From:[info]runespoor7
Date:June 18th, 2009 12:10 pm (UTC)
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In the same arc they decided to get their Robin beaten to death while his birth mother was having a smoke and then blown up, they must've had strange priorities. :p

Maybe they just didn't do the research.
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From:[info]lipsofpoison
Date:June 18th, 2009 01:25 pm (UTC)
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Has that been brought up since Jason's been back? Not his death but Shiela?
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From:[info]runespoor7
Date:June 18th, 2009 01:57 pm (UTC)
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Actually, I don't know. Sheila being tied up and Jason untying her before the bomb explodes has been used in flashbacks since then. Sheila lighting up a smoke is so deeply ingrained in my Jason canon, though, I'm not sure how I'd take a retcon.
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From:[info]lipsofpoison
Date:June 18th, 2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
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I don't think it has been brought up, which was actually my first thought for a repressed memory, but since rereading, I don't think it is. Still, I don't want it retconned. That scene is too important to me too.
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From:[info]janegray
Date:June 18th, 2009 02:30 pm (UTC)
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Maybe, since Jason's biological mother was such a monster, they wanted to imply that at least his adoptive mother had been a good parent?
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From:[info]runespoor7
Date:June 18th, 2009 03:15 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, maybe. I'm not sure I'd say she was his adoptive mother, though; he didn't find out she wasn't his biological mother until he found his birth certificate. It wasn't a formal adoption, it seemed to be more that Jason's father had remarried and she raised Jason.

She may also have been a good mother until she died of an OD, as well.
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From:[info]aaron_bourque
Date:June 18th, 2009 12:04 pm (UTC)
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Wow. I had no idea Catherine Todd had any kind of connection to drugs at all.

And for ME to learn something new about BATMAN . . .
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From:[info]the_black_cat_
Date:June 18th, 2009 09:19 pm (UTC)
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I feel the same way.
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From:[info]aaron_bourque
Date:June 19th, 2009 12:54 am (UTC)
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Seriously, it's like learning that he dies his hair, or that he learned the piano from the Mad Hatter, or something.
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From:[info]lipsofpoison
Date:June 18th, 2009 01:23 pm (UTC)
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Well, she died of an illness which could well have had to do with drugs, which has always been how I saw it.
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From:[info]sherkahn
Date:June 18th, 2009 02:13 pm (UTC)
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Would this be tied into the "horrible thing" that Bruce knew about?

At the end of Battle for the Cowl, Jason fought Dick, and Dick hit a nerve when he brought up the horrible experience of his youth, and that he could get help.

Speculation: Did Jason cause his mom to OD, or buy her the drugs that would weaken her immune system?
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From:[info]janegray
Date:June 18th, 2009 02:40 pm (UTC)
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Speculation: Did Jason cause his mom to OD, or buy her the drugs that would weaken her immune system?

I would definitely prefer that over the "Jason was raped by child-molesters!" possibility.
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From:[info]the_black_cat_
Date:June 18th, 2009 09:20 pm (UTC)
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Awww. What a cute icon. :)
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From:[info]the_black_cat_
Date:June 18th, 2009 09:16 pm (UTC)
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Thank you!

Twice in my life, I had to give up buying comics due to financial issues. One of those times was when Jason's origins were being revamped, missed the whole thing! But I did catch up later on 'Death in Family', should have gone back a bit further. I'm sure one day, they'll revise the whole thing but I hope they'll show Jason's stepmother trying her best to be a good 'mom' to him. He deserves that.

Thank you all for saving me from embarrassing myself with the poster at Deviantart.
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From:[info]sistermagpie
Date:June 18th, 2009 10:25 am (UTC)
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Glad superfan could provide the actual scans--I knew I'd heard both illness and drug addict but couldn't be sure where.

But I have to ask--whose yellow boot is that kicking Kid Flash?
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From:[info]icon_uk
Date:June 18th, 2009 10:35 am (UTC)
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His own, he really is THAT fast! :D

Actually, it's a miscoloured Aqualad boot.
From:[info]faile_neume
Date:June 19th, 2009 03:01 am (UTC)
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They fixed that mistake in the TPB.
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From:[info]icon_uk
Date:June 18th, 2009 10:37 am (UTC)
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Oh and as for "I hope I did everything right", I think I speak for all of us when I say that THAT is putting it mildly! :D
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From:[info]lover_youshould
Date:June 18th, 2009 10:45 am (UTC)
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Re: the scan: That's one of my favorite TT:Y1 moments, if only for Aqualad and Kid Flash's reactions to Batman. Aqualad's blush~ <333
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From:[info]his_spiffyness
Date:June 18th, 2009 12:22 pm (UTC)
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Boy, they could do some major damage with those pointy knees of theirs...
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From:[info]lipsofpoison
Date:June 18th, 2009 01:20 pm (UTC)
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I've been on a massive reread of Jason's stuff quite recently so I'm pretty sure on this one.

It's definitely implied that Jason's mother is an addict, though never explicitly said.
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From:[info]liarashadowsong
Date:June 18th, 2009 08:01 pm (UTC)
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'Fraid I don't really know anything about Catherine Todd. Just wanted to pop in and say that I absolutely love your Batman and Sons webcomic. <3
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