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Giving flowers in Japan 
24th-Oct-2008 06:34 pm

My first post! A bit of meta on a Japanese custom; contains spoilers for Book 10.

I've been slowly working my way through the Harudaki books/scanalations, and am currently on Book 10. On p.11 of the first chapter, "Hazard Map," Asano presents Iwaki and Katou with bouquets of flowers when filming of the movie ends, and I was just wondering if non-Japanese readers found that odd. Judging from the "making of" special features on Japanese dvds that I've seen, it seems to be common for the lead actors/actresses to be presented with bouquets on the last day of filming.

It also seems to be normal for guys in general to get flowers on celebratory occasions. I recall seeing an episode of the tv drama "Kinpachi Sensei" (about a junior high teacher who always seems to get the class filled with problem students) where a father buys flowers for his son to congratulate him on passing his high school entrance exams. Now, I know that real life is not necessarily like tv, but it's a fairly realistic drama and it was presented in such a matter-of-fact way that I got the impression that it's a common practice. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)

I just thought it was kind of interesting that in the US, we usually think of a gift of flowers as a romantic gesture from a man to a woman, and it would be unusual for a man to give another man flowers. And of course in Harudaki, we do have the underlying layers of Asano's interest in Iwaki, although the gift of the flowers in that scene appears to be a genuine expression of appreciation from a junior actor to his sempais. I assume Katou sees it that way, too, since he doesn't fly off the handle. ^_^

Although it would make a great plot bunny for Katou to get all jealous when some man (choose your favorite supporting character) sends flowers to Iwaki for whatever reason...maybe to congratulate him on winning on a role. Iwaki would tell him he's being silly and childish, and Katou would be crying, "Can't Iwaki-san see that he's only after your body?!"

Heh heh, maybe I am starting to get a feel for the characters! ^_^ I actually have a little plot bunny in mind, involving the gay actor Kikuchi from Book 2, but I want to let it percolate a bit more.

And speaking of Asano, does it seem like he's transferred his feelings from Iwaki to Katou in Book 10? In "Jamais Vu," he tells Katou, "Since the audition day, I couldn't erase the shadow of Katou-san from my brain." (Using the translation by the Haru Project.) Katou himself asks if Asano is changing targets. That really took me by surprise! Or maybe he wants them both now? I certainly couldn't blame anyone for wanting to be in the middle of an Iwaki/Katou sandwich!

Anyway, it was interesting that Katou was the one to stand up for Asano, given that he has every reason to hate him--hmm, much the same way that Iwaki tries to make things right between Katou and Miyasaka, come to think of it. I'm still not sure how I feel about that; sometimes I think that our boys are a little too forgiving, particularly of Miyasaka, even if he truly is remorseful. I did find Onozuka to be pretty cool and intriguing (Jeez, why doesn't Miyasaka go after him instead?), and I hope to see more of him in future chapters.
Comments 
25th-Oct-2008 06:10 am
I adore Miyasaka. He is cool, beautiful, cunning... what's there not to like?

"Although it would make a great plot bunny for Katou to get all jealous when some man (choose your favorite supporting character) sends flowers to Iwaki for whatever reason"

In Japan, (as in western culture) flowers symbolise various things, so the sender could just choose a variety that speaks about eternal passion or some such. That should do the trick. :D

Asano... one can say one or two things about the arsehole, but he's got taste. I was wondering about that too, that his infatuation with Iwaki had changed.

And, oooh, Kikuchi??? *sits down, waiting, popcorn at hand*
25th-Oct-2008 11:59 am
[...]I was just wondering if non-Japanese readers found that odd. Not at all - there's so much that's new & foreign to me in the representation of culture & background that the flowers didn't even register as unusual. At first I thought Asano was playing games/up to old tricks, but within the context it didn't seem like that. More of a suck-up job = "see what a wonderful & sincere actor I am, willing to learn, & respectful of my seniors".

And speaking of Asano, does it seem like he's transferred his feelings from Iwaki to Katou in Book 10? You know, Asano's feelings for Iwaki never struck me as particularly deep or sincere, rather a matter of convenience. His dislike of Katou seemed to run deeper than any regard he had for Iwaki.
And yes, I've been wondering about Asano's feelings for Katou - that obsessive dislike could so easily become obsession. And I don't believe Asano would be sufficiently self-aware to immediately recognize a shift in his own feeelings.

I did find Onozuka to be pretty cool and intriguing - Oh, yes. I think of Miyasaka & Onozuka as the "non-human" ones (I don't mean that literally) - with Miyasaka unable to perceive Iwaki as a person - unable to interact human->human; & then Onozuka seeming so very fey. Operating on an entirely different level.
And personally I believe they were far too forgiving of Miyasaka!!!!
25th-Oct-2008 11:44 pm
You know, Asano's feelings for Iwaki never struck me as particularly deep or sincere, rather a matter of convenience. His dislike of Katou seemed to run deeper than any regard he had for Iwaki.

I wasn't sure whether Asano had real feelings for Iwaki or not--maybe Asano himself isn't sure. There's that scene in Book 5 where Katou says that he won't reveal Asano's betrayal to Iwaki, and then tells him, "If you ever want to see Iwaki-san smile again, I suggest that you keep your mouth shut." And Asano is in complete shock and wonders, "Do I want to?" So I thought maybe he had unwittingly come to care for Iwaki in spite of himself.

But now that you mention it, I can see that his encounters with Katou are much more charged with emotion (jealousy, gloating, anger), while except for that one instance mentioned above, he seems to dismiss Iwaki as a naive pushover, feeling little more than cool amusement and contempt. As a Snupin shipper, I can certainly understand hatred turning into love, or at least lust and obsession! ^_^

I still think he's a scheming SOB, but I like him a bit more after reading Book 10. Not that he's especially likeable, but his new obsession with Katou made him a lot more interesting, and at least he seems to be genuinely dedicated to his craft as an actor.
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