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Audrey Jensen ([info]fknaudrey) wrote in [info]somerealityweb,
@ 2019-06-20 06:26:00

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Entry tags:active: freddy freeman, active: peter parker

Alright, so, I was out earlier trying to find a store that sold Hispanic foods (I found one, so there's one problem taken care of) in the hopes that either my debit card would work here (no) or that $17.48 would be enough to buy everything I needed (yes) and I happened upon a movie theater with a help wanted sign in the ticket kiosk.

...Which is great. That's exactly what I needed. But I'm sort of curious about whether they're going to be able to check any of my references? Does anyone ever check references or is sweeping up popcorn and Mike & Ike such a menial task that anyone capable holding a broom could do it? I mean, sure, it'd be nice if my former managerial position could mean something more than $7.50/hr and filling sodas for eight hours a day, but should I hold out much hope?

Also, I know it's summer and it's about two years too late chronologically, but I can see the NYU campus from here and it's kind of getting me right in the feelings. This was supposed to be the future for me and now it's the past and I totally missed it. It's weird. And I've coped with weird before, but this is really weird. It's just right there and there's nothing I can do about it.

I suppose this is better than the possible alternative, though. Considering all the shit the keeps happening back at home and the notable lack of masked killers around here, this is almost good. And then I look out and see those purple Tisch banners and I'm just like... damn.



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[info]mrbillyrusso
2019-06-20 04:23 pm UTC (link)
Most of the general population, but you could have a worse arrest. It certainly won’t matter for a future of making movies...depending on the genre.

Some of them have their moments.

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[info]fknaudrey
2019-06-20 05:34 pm UTC (link)
Most? Where do you come from. 90% of my home town is a crime scene.

Eh. Not really. Not until they hit 14 and start to grow a personality beyond screaming and sticky hands.

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[info]mrbillyrusso
2019-06-21 03:26 am UTC (link)
New York. I wasn’t adventurous enough to steal from crime scenes when there were perfectly good Macy’s counters, though.

What about you? I’d guess West Memphis but they’re still about 9 points off on the crime index last I checked.

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[info]fknaudrey
2019-06-21 03:35 am UTC (link)
New York is surprisingly non-violent considering per capita rates. It's not even on the FBI's Top 25. Which means it's safer than... y'know, Anchorage. And Albuquerque. And Milwaukee. Though Milwaukee does like their serial killers.

Lakewood, Lousiana. Situated almost perfectly between New Orleans and Baton Rouge. Named for its stunning, and kind of swampy in the rainy season, lakes. Originally settled Spanish, but later taken over by the French. Prominently middle-class. Some farming land. Largely Catholic population. They served fish in my school on Fridays, that's how Catholic.

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[info]mrbillyrusso
2019-06-21 07:38 am UTC (link)
That can be attributed to legalization of abortion in New York. If Louisiana would implement less restrictive laws then their crime rates would drop accordingly. It’s hard to commit a crime if you’re never born.

I can’t say I’ve ever heard of Lakewood, but you’ve painted quite the picture between the swamps and the Catholics.

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[info]fknaudrey
2019-06-21 03:57 pm UTC (link)
I feel like you're probably right about that. Obviously not in every case, but considering early life economic instability and whatnot being a massive contributing factor in violent crimes, if women weren't forced to raise children that they couldn't afford, it would lessen the economic burden.

It's actually pretty nice. We have a carnival every year. There's a boat festival thing. It's really white, though.

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[info]mrbillyrusso
2019-06-21 04:45 pm UTC (link)
Theoretically, it’s the abuse of the unwanted children that creates criminals and not the mother’s financial burden. No one is really forced to raise their unwanted children after birth. I can’t think of a country where it’s easier to get rid of your baby that doesn’t allow the mother to throw them in a river. People will pay good money to privately adopt a newborn baby, the state will take it from you if that fails, and you can even throw them in a drop box and walk away unprosecuted.

That’s fairly unusual for Louisiana. One third of the population is black, isn’t it?

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[info]fknaudrey
2019-06-21 05:04 pm UTC (link)
You could say that. You could also say it's the abuse of children in general that creates the potential for criminal activity - regardless of whether the children were wanted or not. Plenty of people want their kids and still end up being shitty parents. But more to your point, which I don't disagree with, there was an orphanage in Lakewood and if even half the rumors are true, it was a super shitty place. We're talking institutionalized violence. And that's where our resident serial killer spent her childhood - not because her mother didn't want her, but because she was sixteen and the cultural pressure of the conservative South being what it is...

It is. But not in Lakewood. There's a semi-prevalent Latino population, but it's still real white.

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[info]mrbillyrusso
2019-06-21 05:57 pm UTC (link)
It’s the abuse of children in general, but the odds of being abused increase exponentially for the unwanted ones. The likelihood of a ‘single positive influence’ also goes down to practically zero, which is what helps to combat criminality in wanted children. Therefore, purely statistically, decreasing only their rate of existence dramatically improves everyone else’s.

The rumors are probably true. I grew up in a group home, and I couldn’t tell you a fond memory from it. That’s probably why I think societal pressure is a weak excuse. If you want something badly enough, you’ll take a beating for it. You don't want them if you willingly let them go.

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[info]fknaudrey
2019-06-21 06:20 pm UTC (link)
Hm. That's a good point. And I could say that there are people who had positive experiences or stable home lives and still ended up involved in major criminal activity, but at that point, it's kind of just arguing the exceptions and not the probabilities. Like, sure, you could have a case where the person had loving parents and step-parents but because they felt a parent or authority figure abandoned them in some way, they still lashed out. But once you start getting into that, you're getting into a nature vs. nurture debate and that's... a mess. There are so many issues with nature-based research.

There was a reason it got shut down, so I don't doubt it. And one of our teachers grew up there. She was... a bit odd, definitely over-involved and kind of invasive, but I'd say fairly normal. So a person can overcome those particular obstacles if they want to.

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[info]mrbillyrusso
2019-06-21 07:38 pm UTC (link)
Modern biological studies on crime still owe most of their findings to nurture. All the biological factors associated with violent criminality are caused by repeated early childhood abuse. Nature is pretty much the same no matter who you are; you make choices based on the likelihood of being caught and punished versus being rewarded.

Sure. I like to think it gives a certain edge that you wouldn’t get coming from a loving home. If you’re never handed anything in life then you learn to work hard for what you want.

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[info]fknaudrey
2019-06-22 02:46 pm UTC (link)
So, what would you say about the outliers, though? The ones who come from normal middle-class families where there isn't any abuse? Or do you think that they have an inciting incident? I'm absolutely not being defensive, either, I'm really just curious. My friend, Noah, is more the psychology expert. I just make movies.

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[info]mrbillyrusso
2019-06-22 07:03 pm UTC (link)
It’s a certain mix of entitlement, probability of loss, and guarantee of satisfaction. Since nature is pretty much the same, there’s always motivation but it doesn’t always have the same chance of success.

In the case of a member of the underclass, their odds of reward from being involved in illegal activities is greater than their loss. They already have fewer legitimate chances in life so going to prison can’t decrease those odds. That’s why you still see criminal activity, despite increased odds of being caught.

A middle class person (especially if they’re white or “white passing”) is less likely to be caught. Therefore, they have more chance of reward without any loss. It’s why middle class teenagers shoplift despite being able to afford what they’re stealing. They know they don’t get punished for that sort of shit.

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[info]fknaudrey
2019-06-22 07:41 pm UTC (link)
So the high school jock who flies off the handle and kills five people because his girlfriend kissed another guy... Yeah, that makes sense. He didn't get caught either. Passed the buck onto a kid with a disability. Who kissed his girlfriend.

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