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More on Lily's behavior in SWM: Lily the Prefect?

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There was one comment I wanted to pull out from the recent Lily threads for separate discussion.

I’m glad Hwyla pointed out that Lily almost had to have been a prefect in SWM. I’d been wanting someone to bring that up.

Warning: Lily-bashing ahead. At least I can't come up with any way to have Lily look good in SWM if she's really a prefect as well as Snape's supposed best friend.



Is it credible that Lily, a scant year later chosen to be Head Girl, was NOT a prefect in SWM?

Can anyone make a case (without violently contorting) that she was not?

Yet if she was: what does that say about her behavior in SWM? It was her perfectly duty as much as Lupin’s to discipline James and Sirius—both to stop their misbehavior, to punish them, and to prevent (one hopes, although in this case probably futilely) recidivism. Why isn’t Lily in there docking house points from Gryffindor and issuing detentions?

I mean, imagine if Hermione had found Cormac McLaggen and a couple of his friends ganging up on Ron. Or Percy witnessing several Gryffindors setting on Penelope. Would either of them credibly react as Lily does?

We know what we think of Prefect Lupin’s cowardice in not stopping his friends. But at least we understand his motives.

Lily’s motives…. Is she guilty of more favoritism than Snape at his worst, unwilling to punish her own house? (At least the Slytherins, as Whitehand points out, actually make considerable effort to make sure Snape doesn’t directly see their worst misbehavior. James checked to make sure Lily was watching before he started in on Snape!)

Is she a coward like Lupin, whose girlfriends have made her aware they will ostracize her if she punishes the wrong people (two popular, rich, good-looking Gryff boys, one a Quidditch star) or takes too many house points?

Is this James’s way of getting Lily to commit publicly to engaging him one-on-one rather than prefect-to-misbehaving student?

Or is she simply too weak to enforce her authority?

I can’t come up with any way to have Lily be a prefect and not look worse than Lupin.

And I can’t come up with any plausible reason why the future Head Girl wouldn’t have been Prefect.

(Oh fine, I can so. Mary Sue Macdonald, who was Lily's superior in all conceivable and inconceivable ways, was Gryffindor prefect fifth year and a shoo-in for Head Girl in Seventh. But Mulciber, who adored her, killed her sixth year in a fit of jealous rage--you'll be happy to know DD prevented his being expelled. Alternatively, the MoM pulled her from school to serve as head of the DMLE to lead the fight against You-Know-Who. She asked (with her dying breath or from her new position of power) that her mantle be passed to her lowly friend Lily, as a symbol of hope for Muggleborns that despite their inferior blood and abilities,they too might be granted a position of power if they pleased their superiors. The End.)

Bad fanfic aside, discuss?
  • Re: prejudiced

    So, you can definitely say that Dumbledore might help Severus. It's just that there're no sources of help that Severus could *count* on. And without that, most of us (I think) can't get past, "But why would he jump off a cliff without some kind of a *plan*?"

    Ah, I think I understand now. Thanks. :)

    Hmmm, I think he *might* need a bigger carrot for this jump than mere friendship, then. He might need to believe that he had a good chance romantically with Lily, for him to be willing to take the leap. Then he might risk it (in my estimation). Supposing this, he'd have to get some kind of sign, signal, or statement from Lily that indications she would be receptive to romance with him. We know this didn't happen in canon, so it would be the realm of an AU that this scenario could occur in.

    Or he might need to believe that he could 'catch himself' and make it on his own. I'm not sure how likely he is to believe that (not too likely, I think).

    Or maybe he'd start sniffing out his other options, before he jumps. Testing the waters with the other professors, and whatnot.
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