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arbre_rieur (arbre_rieur) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-03 11:17:00

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creator: mark waid, creator: peter krause, publisher: boom!, title: irredeemable

Irredeemable 6
The mystery continues to unravel.

As usual, the issue's divided between present day and flashback sequences.

The heroes sneak into the Plutonian's secret headquarters (present day).

Flashback:

Present day:

So the Plutonian took dead bodies from one of his most tragic cases as a superhero and kept them in his HQ? Presumably, this will tie into the origin of his heel turn somehow, but how? Hmmm.

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box_in_the_box
2009-09-03 07:47 pm UTC (link)

So ... I'm assuming none of these people's families wanted to bury them after they died, then?

Or, given the fact that their original clothes still should have decayed in the meantime, even if that was the case, the Plutonian went around AFTER they were buried, scooped them all up out of their graves, dressed them up in the same types of clothes that they were wearing when they died, and then posed them in the same way they looked when they died?

This is really kind of Millar-esque writing - go with an OMG SHOCKING IMAGE, but then, don't pay any mind to what that image would actually MEAN.

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	galateus 2009-09-03 08:00 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah... Before I saw arbre_rieur's last paragraph there, I thought it was a second outbreak of the sonic virus that had been just released or contained or cured-too-late or something. The actual explanation makes no sense. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-09-03 08:04 pm UTC (link)
	It's definitely a "Hannibal Lector digs up Clarice Starling's father and presents his bones to her in Hannibal" moment. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	box_in_the_box 2009-09-03 08:07 pm UTC (link)
	The actual explanation makes no sense. And it drives me nuts that it took me all of about two minutes, in the middle of multitasking between this and doing my actual job, to figure out why this doesn't make sense, when somebody else presumably spent a lot more than two minutes writing and editing this story. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ian_karkull 2009-09-03 08:53 pm UTC (link)
	I thought this was your actual job. Kidding! Sorry, couldn't resist. :D (Reply to this) (Parent)

	arbre_rieur 2009-09-03 09:46 pm UTC (link)
	In this case, it's me who was bone-headed and didn't make sense, not Waid. The explanation you guys are citing was just my own theory. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-09-03 10:33 pm UTC (link)
	Ah. I stand duly corrected, then. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	arbre_rieur 2009-09-03 09:54 pm UTC (link)
	"The actual explanation makes no sense." There hasn't been an actual explanation yet. That was the final page. My comment was just my own conjecture, which is why there's a question mark at the end. I probably could have made that clearer. (Reply to this) (Parent)

You may actually be right..

steverodgers5
2009-09-03 08:06 pm UTC (link)

Actually as crazy as this guy is, (Plutonian not Waid or Millar..;) ) he might have done exactly what you proposed in your 2nd suggestion..

Might even be deliberate, as some kind of twisted version of Superman's penchant for making up replicas of people in his fortress of solitude back in the day..

(Or even Bat's Robin Uniform 'trophy' case..)

But yeah, I'm still smarting over where Millar left Doom at the end of his FF run, so I can see what you're talking about in your comparison there..He doesn't seem one for thinking through the long term consequeces of his plot twists..Cough! (Civil War) Cough!

Still I'm trying to remain hopeful that Waid on the other hand, might be soon pulling it all together. But I guess we'll see soon enough whether he's thought it all through..

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Re: You may actually be right..

box_in_the_box
2009-09-03 08:13 pm UTC (link)

Given the level of thought he's put into fleshing out any of his characters so far, beyond just "roman-a-clef versions of preexisting superheroes, supervillains and supporting characters," you'll forgive me if I can't share your hope.

Yes, I know the term gets overused, but goddammit, this story deserves it; this is FAN FICTION writing, utterly indistinguishable from any number of stories I've read for free online, aside from its lack of gratuitous sex.

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	Re: You may actually be right.. arbre_rieur 2009-09-03 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	Who are Gilgamos, Scylla, Charybdis, Volt, Kaidan, Bette Noire, or Samsara roman-a-clefs of? Only the Plutonian and the mentioned-but-never-seen Inferno really fit that bill. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	thanekos 2009-09-03 08:09 pm UTC (link)
	so either they're gonna find Modeus's corpse in one corner, or it's gonna turn out he and the Plutonian were secretly the same person. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-09-03 08:15 pm UTC (link)
	[...] it's gonna turn out he and the Plutonian were secretly the same person. The problem being, we've already seen enough flashback scenes of the Plutonian NOT being a total psycho dick - including his stunned reaction above - that this simply wouldn't work, unless ... oh God, unless SPLIT PERSONALITY HERE WE GO. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	foxhack 2009-09-03 10:40 pm UTC (link)
	Evil clone? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-09-03 10:40 pm UTC (link)
	Or evil twin brother (O HAI COBALT BLUE). (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ninjapeps 2009-09-03 11:44 pm UTC (link)
	that's just stupid. it's obviously a case of an evil twin clone future self from a parallel dimension. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	thandrak 2009-09-03 08:14 pm UTC (link)
	Did the virus... tell him something? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	espanolbot 2009-09-03 08:42 pm UTC (link)
	It's saying, loneliness + alienation + fear + despair + self-worth ÷ mockery ÷ condemnation ÷ misunderstanding x guilt x shame x failure x judgment n=y where y=hope and n=folly, love=lies, life=death, self=dark side (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtoreth 2009-09-03 11:06 pm UTC (link)
	Enh. So he listened to the Anti-Life Equation. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	felinephoenix 2009-09-04 03:34 am UTC (link)
	The virus is Ikari Shinji? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	regulus13 2009-09-04 04:44 am UTC (link)
	That would explain the melting people... (Reply to this) (Parent)

mrdave2176
2009-09-03 08:35 pm UTC (link)

Judging from the final comment in this comic, I thought that this was actually ground zero. That the group has escaped to a former "Plutonian fortress of solitude" that Qbit acquired, but had never visited.

This, then, implies that these were presumably test subjects. Judging from the number of child skeletons with two adult skeletons, it was some sort of nursery. I'm not sure why the Plutonian has a nursery. Were these his kids?

It seemed obvious to me that the Plutonian has a connection to the "sonic virus" in some way. Whether he created it, discovered it, always had it, or whatever isn't completely clear.

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ian_karkull
2009-09-03 08:59 pm UTC (link)

That is exactly what I was thinking. Who arbitrarily designs a museum like a nursery home? Even for a guy living in a volcano, that's pretty far out.
Does it actually say anywhere in the text that this is some kind of museum. Because that seems just so damn far fetched.
It's much more likely that it's some kind of failed experiment of his or is somehow connected to the Plutonians origin.

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freivolk
2009-09-03 10:07 pm UTC (link)

Here a crazy therory from me. The virus didn´t really "kill" the people. Their Consiouness still remained in their corpses. They were actually "living deads". The Plutonian was the only one who could understand this, because he still could hear them. He decided, that it was impossible for them to live under normal humans any longer and brought them to his fortress. And there they lived with him. After some time they accepted their fate and in the end they became some sort of family for him. Till something happend and they died again. And this drove him over the edge.

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	foxhack 2009-09-03 11:08 pm UTC (link)
	That makes sense considering the "animates the skeleton" comment... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	proteus_lives 2009-09-05 08:29 am UTC (link)
	That's an interesting thought..... (Reply to this) (Parent)