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cyberghostface (cyberghostface) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-03-16 11:16:00

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creator: berni wrightson, creator: bruce jones, creator: carmine infantino, publisher: warren, title: creepy

Country Pie

This one's from Creepy #113.

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	kamino_neko 2009-03-16 10:34 am UTC (link)
	Saw the twist coming - though the red herrings were a little unfair, and stretch the 'Jedi Truth' - Mrs Whitney constantly refers to the killer as a singular person, and says the victim is next to 'him' - while it's possible to bend that into the events of the story, it takes a lot more bending than it really ought to for fairness' sake. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	lonewolf23k 2009-03-16 12:33 pm UTC (link)
	Well, looks like the boy's the one doing the actual killing, what with the rock-throwing and all. The girl is mostly an accomplice. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

kamino_neko
2009-03-16 12:48 pm UTC (link)

That doesn't really help - it only slightly unbends the singular killer point (even if we assume she never delivers the killing stroke in any case but this one, she's still an active part of the murders), but makes 'the victim is sitting next to him' even worse - the victim was sitting next to the girl - HE was sitting behind the victim. A proper red herring should be either a complete lie, or else require only looking at the problem from a different perspective - this neither. It's presented as a true description of what's going on, but that only works if you seriously deform the meanings of the words used.

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	kosaginolegion 2009-03-16 07:19 pm UTC (link)
	They may have been banking on the fact that psychics of that sort are often very vague and difficult to interpret. A point which played into a recent Criminal Minds, if memory serves me right. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	daggerpen 2009-03-16 02:54 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I was thinking that too. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	lookingforsigns 2009-03-16 11:12 am UTC (link)
	The twist is pretty easy to spot, but the psychic thing is...kinda weird. They didn't explain much there. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	cyberghostface 2009-03-16 11:21 am UTC (link)
	What's to explain? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lookingforsigns 2009-03-16 11:25 am UTC (link)
	Not so much explain as explain in the right order. Twist usually comes at the end of the story, establishing someone as a psychic or vampire or whatever comes at the beginning. Just throw in a line there about it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kamino_neko 2009-03-16 12:59 pm UTC (link)
	I dunno, I think the narration is pretty clearly from the POV of a psychic helping the investigation. (Part of why I find the red herrings unfair - there's no reason for her to be doing that.) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kijikun 2009-03-16 01:43 pm UTC (link)
	Tony Stark stopped picking up hitchhikers after that. (Reply to this)

	jlroberson 2009-03-16 02:08 pm UTC (link)
	Interesting...but why do you have it tagged for Wrightson? This is Infantino. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	kamino_neko 2009-03-16 02:12 pm UTC (link)
	Infantino & Wrightson - credits are on the bottom of the first page. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-03-16 03:35 pm UTC (link)
	Duh! Now there's a combination I wasn't expecting. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	seriousfic 2009-03-16 02:58 pm UTC (link)
	Thank God the streets are once more safe for pedophiliac date rapists. Also, a teenage girl and her kid brother... hunting adult men... whose murder weapon is a rock. I see no one in the county has learned the time-honored defense mechanism of "hold him at bay with a hand on his head while they swing wildly but don't have the reach to connect with you." (Reply to this) (Thread)

	fungo_squiggly 2009-03-16 03:37 pm UTC (link)
	Thank God the streets are once more safe for pedophiliac date rapists. Yeah, I didn't have much sympathy for the almost-victim, either. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kamino_neko 2009-03-16 04:15 pm UTC (link)
	Eeeh... Pedophilic? The girl may or may not be legal (though she looks to be), but she sure as heck ain't pre-adolescent. The guy's a sleazebag for trying to force himself on her, and deserves jail himself, but a child molester he isn't. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	seriousfic 2009-03-16 04:21 pm UTC (link)
	Well, he's some degree of creep, given how he makes such a deal of her being 16. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

kamino_neko
2009-03-16 07:59 pm UTC (link)

Oh, he's definitely a creep of major proportions, but since he's going after a girl with a full set of secondary sexual characteristics (and how!), his creepiness doesn't include pedophilia - depending on which state, if she'd consented, he wouldn't even have to worry about statutory rape charges. As it is, if she wasn't a murderess, he could potentially be facing charges of forcible rape, so that latter's a distinction with little difference right now, though.

It's just one of my personal pet peeves to extend the definition of 'pedophilia' up into the late teens.

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	seriousfic 2009-03-16 08:04 pm UTC (link)
	Well, there's something to be said for generalized usage. You call someone an ephebophile, maybe 2 out of 5 people understand, you call someone a pedo, everyone understands you mean someone who has sex with people under the age of consent. Anything beyond that seems like splitting hairs. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtoreth 2009-03-16 11:22 pm UTC (link)
	It's the 'you're the exact same age as my daughter!' that is the skeevy cherry on top. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	psychop_rex 2009-03-17 02:41 am UTC (link)
	So wait - do ALL those weighed-down bodies belong to creepy guys who troll the back roads looking for teenage poontang? I mean, just how many of them ARE there in that neck of the woods? Is this place sleazebag central, or what? (Reply to this)