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jlroberson (jlroberson) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-11 22:16:00

Current location:	Seattle
Current mood:	lazy
Current music:	Matching Mole, "O Caroline"
Entry tags:	genre: public service announcement, theme: drugs

How To Avoid Drugs--And Hey, Here's A Handy Shopping Guide! WHICH YOU SHOULD NOT USE.

This comes from Austin cartoonist/writer Ethan Persoff's "Comics With Problems."
It's from the end of an anti-drug comic from 1970, seen here, that has a totally
sober cover(which, if you click on it, will take you to the whole comic):

At the end, they include this, which, well, I don't know about you,
but if I were a teen curious about drugs, this is the part I'd be perusing over and over...

HMMM.

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	jupiterrhode 2009-07-12 05:27 am UTC (link)
	Now that's just not true, Marijuana does have some documented medical uses, and would probably have more if someone would study it responsibly. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	foxhack 2009-07-12 05:36 am UTC (link)
	Won't happen anytime soon. Every researcher has mentioned something about munchies and being mellow, and the projects have to be shut down. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlroberson 2009-07-12 05:36 am UTC (link)
	Well, remember this was (a)1970 and (b)propaganda. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

hybrid2
2009-07-12 01:03 pm UTC (link)

sure was.
Hemp as infinite uses.beyond medical use to.
I have a image but i dont know how to post it.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/graphics/07-06/01/image001.PNG
There's a article about the whole conspirasy to make it illigal.and people e-mailed personal stories to the autor.
Like a man have a rare genetic disease,from wish none live pass 32.he's 41 now. He's prety sure it's because he eat hemp a few time a week.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/marijuana-conspiracy.htm
http://www.illuminati-news.com/2007/0601a.htm

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	ashtoreth 2009-07-12 06:26 am UTC (link)
	LSD is supposed to have interesting possibilities for headaches and autism. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	platedlizard 2009-07-12 07:51 am UTC (link)
	And Ecstasy was originally used in couples therapy! (Reply to this) (Parent)

jlroberson
2009-07-12 08:23 am UTC (link)

Well, they used it on schizophrenics and found that, while they were tripping, they were more or less normal, but the amount they'd have to take regularly to maintain that would damage more than heal.

Problem with acid is it's not something you're supposed to take often, or forever.(I say this having used it a fair amount of times in my twenties) It's useful but only goes so far.

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	(Anonymous) 2009-07-12 05:46 am UTC (link)
	Everything I know about drugs I learned from DARE. Well, not really, but that was totally true when I was a sixth grader learning about the difference between uppers and downers and how some pills look like candy. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	platedlizard 2009-07-12 07:55 am UTC (link)
	When I took DARE the police officers spent most of the time talking about their more amusing cases. the best one was the story of the cop who got trapped in his car by a pissed off domestic boar. Oh, and the stoned guy they freaked the fuck out by having the Easter Bunny interrogate him. Good times. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	red_cyclone 2009-07-12 09:06 am UTC (link)
	We don't have DARE in the UK, but it appears that police officers are the same everywhere, I vividly remember being told the story of the officer volunteering to test the tazer so the others could see what happened, not much to do with drugs, but great fun. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	xandertarbert 2009-07-12 09:07 am UTC (link)
	They've shown that after the DARE courses, drug use actually increased. So maybe knowing isn't half the battle. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-07-12 01:13 pm UTC (link)
	It's half the battle, but the fight's not going your way? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	filbypott 2009-07-12 11:39 am UTC (link)
	I'm probably the only person I know who actually found DARE useful and informative. That said, while I came to understand why I personally don't want to take drugs, I ended up thinking a lot of them should be legalized all the same. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	We're Not Candy mysteryfan 2009-07-12 01:58 pm UTC (link)
	how some pills look like candy This is my favorite related thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xayd1c0wtOE (:59) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: We're Not Candy superfan1 2009-07-13 02:00 am UTC (link)
	Why yes scare the kids into years of therapy, but at least they get the message right? :P (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: We're Not Candy mysteryfan 2009-07-13 02:03 am UTC (link)
	Why yes scare the kids into years of therapy, but at least they get the message right? :P LOL. Yes. As long as they get the message of giant puppety pillow things on the inherent dangers. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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jlroberson
2009-07-13 02:09 am UTC (link)

And then you can steer them to the patented and branded mind-altering drugs.

Some of which are useful, I'm not a Scientologist or something, but really, they're mind-and-mood-altering drugs, the way they're overprescribed, in practice that respect no different than Dexys or valium at one time.

I once mentioned to a doctor I was having trouble sleeping. She prescribed not a sleep aid but Paxil. But I do not have a mood disorder, merely insomnia and circadian-rhythm issues, and I did not actually NEED Paxil. It fucked me up HARD for about a month till I went off it. Were there any tests to see if my brain chemistry was off? Fuck no. She just prescribed it.

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	Re: We're Not Candy mysteryfan 2009-07-13 02:14 am UTC (link)
	Oh, agreed. I had trouble sleeping and got a scrip pushed on me and the pharmicist (who I love, thank you, Mr. Vo, said, "Do not fill this prescription. Try some melatonin and lifestyle changes.) It worked. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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jlroberson
2009-07-13 02:19 am UTC (link)

AND then there was my ex-wife, suffering from depression, who went to see a therapist and he said, "Before I even talk to you, you have to be on meds." (I forget which one, just that it was an anti-depressant)

I come from a family that's half-medical and I despise irresponsible doctors who give people things that, in fact, can permanently change their brain chemistry so irresponsibly, just because insurance encourages them to. Additionally, in Charleston, where I grew up, I knew so many people in HS who got dosed with lithium just because they were a bit of trouble with their parents. One girl in particular whose real problem was post-rape trauma. But talk therapy--tsk, too slow. Just give her these pills and she'll shut up.

And after she took them, there were only two real changes. One was that she couldn't write poetry anymore. The second was that she got much better at trying to kill herself(which, fortunately, she never succeeded in doing). Thanks, big pharma.

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artemispanthar
2009-07-14 05:22 pm UTC (link)

Wow, that's fucked up. And really pisses me off as a student of Psychology. I mean, goddamn, how irresponsible.
A) Frankly, I don't think non-Psychology trained doctors should -ever- prescribe psychological drugs like Paxil. It's irresponsible and they don't have the training necessary to properly prescribe psychological drugs. Not to rag on MDs too much, but a lot of them seem a little too eager to give psychological drugs for minor issues like insomnia.
B) I can't wrap my head around the idea of a trained psychiatrist having the gall to prescribe drugs without at least one session. I mean, you don't even know what they need before speaking to them. Jeez.

Sorry, I'm just RAGING at the irresponsibility of these people. Christ.

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	tacobob 2009-07-12 05:47 am UTC (link)
	BOOZE Is my anti-drug! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	thelastgreymask 2009-07-12 08:18 pm UTC (link)
	WEED my Anti-Drug (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	dorksidefiker 2009-07-12 09:10 pm UTC (link)
	COMICS are my anti-drug, cause I'm too broke to buy anything else. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	iesika 2009-07-12 12:36 pm UTC (link)
	I kind of want to make a mood theme out of those little guys. (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2009-07-12 02:35 pm UTC (link)
	People inject THC? Honestly, if they had added on alcohol and tobacco I'd be more impressed. (Reply to this) (Thread)

besamim
2009-07-12 03:22 pm UTC (link)

At least they made mention of drugs available by prescription. Prescription drug abuse (whether by the intended patient or someone else) has long accounted for a large chunk of total substance abuse, a fact overlooked by some drug education campaigns even today. That may be because unlike with street drugs, such abuse doesn't generally attract the attention of law enforcement except in the case of forged prescriptions or medications sold on the black market.

Then of course there's over-the-counter medicine abuse. I don't know whether cough syrup (DXM) was commonly abused back in the seventies, but I understand it's very popular now, especially among teenagers. And as with certain Rx drugs, DXM abuse is potentially far more dangerous than marijuana has ever been.

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	"Smoking LSD and Such..." jlroberson 2009-07-12 10:54 pm UTC (link)
	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR3dz5uLnfM I didn't see that. That does sound wrong... Well, there is pharmaceutical THC used in research, so...it might be big among technicians? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	regnet 2009-07-12 03:03 pm UTC (link)
	Damn that little purple guy needs to chill. Doesn't he read comics? USERS are LOSERS. Archie says so too. (Reply to this)

besamim
2009-07-12 03:37 pm UTC (link)

The chart says about hallucinogen users: "Continuing to take the drug, they become insistent that everyone else use it also."

I doubt that's any truer for hallucinogens than for other drug types. Sure, back in the sixties you had Timothy Leary and various musicians openly advocating LSD, but it's not as if there's anything inherent in psychedelics that "makes" users preach about it. Any more than the late Peter Tosh and various "marijuana" political parties around the globe are evidence that cannabis "makes" people do that. There's sometimes peer pressure within groups of friends, sure, but that's true of any substance. (If I had a dollar for every time some of my grad school friends said, "Besamim, you're not drinking! Besamim, have another drink...")

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jlroberson
2009-07-12 10:59 pm UTC (link)

I've done LSD, and even when I was doing it, I did not recommend it. If someone asked me, I told them truthfully what I experienced(which was not usual--I rarely got anything visual, it was more auditory and thinking-stuff; I was one who'd not stop talking while tripping) and then said that if they're happy with who they were, they should not, and if they weren't they should think really hard before trying it.

It helped I was a Pink Floyd fan before that as a teen(before I'd even smoked pot, actually) so MY first LSD story was hearing about Syd. (there was no DARE at my high school, but that might have been after my time; I graduated in 1987)I always felt it wasn't something you did for fun, but for insight. I had friends who did it like it was beer. A few of those are all Syd Barrett now.

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