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arbre_rieur (arbre_rieur) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-26 16:42:00

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creator: alan moore, publisher: awesome entertainment, title: youngblood

Alan Moore's Youngblood proposal
In the late 90's, Alan Moore became the writer for Rob Liefeld's superhero team book Youngblood. As should come as no surprise, he drastically revamped the whole thing. This is the series outline Moore wrote up before starting on the book, in which he details his approach and plans for the title. It's a series bible of sorts, basically.

And for legality, there's three pages from Moore's time on the title itself, featuring a nifty take on superspeed.

And, for legality:

Also, Moore's script for a never-published issue of Youngblood is apparently available online: http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/youngblood_4_script/pages/youngblood_4_script_0001.htm. Once again, I'll reiterate that the fact that Liefeld of all people is to this day sitting on top of Moore scripts that have never seen the light of day... well, it just makes you want to weep.

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	dorksidefiker 2009-06-26 07:34 pm UTC (link)
	I'm gonna sit over here and weep for what could have been. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	foxhack 2009-06-26 07:44 pm UTC (link)
	And I'M going to sit here and pray Rob doesn't decide to illustrate those scripts himself, EVER. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	tahngarth 2009-06-26 07:47 pm UTC (link)
	He did Judgment Day (mostly) and oh, what glorious fail it was. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Sounded good. proteus_lives 2009-06-26 07:43 pm UTC (link)
	I can't think of a character I wouldn't let Alan Moore take a swing at. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Sounded good. filbypott 2009-06-26 07:52 pm UTC (link)
	Kermit the Frog? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Sounded good. aaron_bourque 2009-06-26 08:58 pm UTC (link)
	I could see it. It's Really Really Really Not Easy Being Green. Remember that Kool-Aid Man comic he did? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Sounded good. strangething 2009-06-26 11:45 pm UTC (link)
	Alan Moore Kool-Aid Man caomic?!?! Scans or it didn't happen! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Sounded good. ulf_boehnke 2009-06-27 01:30 am UTC (link)
	OH, YEAH! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Sounded good. besamim 2009-06-27 02:34 am UTC (link)
	Oh yeaah! That is seventy-twelve kinds of fantastic. Thanks for the link. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Sounded good. strangething 2009-06-27 01:51 pm UTC (link)
	Boggles O_O (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Sounded good. lonewolf23k 2009-06-27 08:11 am UTC (link)
	I'd sell my soul to Alan Moore to see him take a stab at Doctor Strange. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Sounded good. halloweenjack 2009-06-27 01:56 pm UTC (link)
	You've seen Promethea, right? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Sounded good. lonewolf23k 2009-06-27 07:15 pm UTC (link)
	Hell yeah, that's why I want him to write Doctor Strange! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Sounded good. lonewolf23k 2009-06-27 07:16 pm UTC (link)
	...To specify, I think it'd be awesome to see Doctor Strange written by a man who's practically an expert in terms of real-world occultism and mythology. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	thanekos 2009-06-26 08:06 pm UTC (link)
	" love interest for Supreme " man, the most hilarious place for a slip of the fingers... (Reply to this)

	cmdr_zoom 2009-06-26 08:19 pm UTC (link)
	Fascinating. The man knows his comics, of course - you can see that in his refs to other titles and creators - and he's also very savvy about marketing and the role that sex (both subtle and overt) plays in it. And then there's this little thread of "drugs are cool, like, free your mind". (Reply to this)

	pi216 2009-06-26 08:22 pm UTC (link)
	While some of the stuff reads as really dated "edgy" by now (Big Brother is really iffy, and Johnny Panic just sounds like a Barry Ween clone with an aging transcription error), I'd still have loved to have seen it. Minus getting any Liefield all over it. (Reply to this)

	aaron_bourque 2009-06-26 09:07 pm UTC (link)
	Giant robot . . . controlled by . . . a joypad??? My god. Did Alan Moore just invent Megas XLR??? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	foxhack 2009-06-26 09:10 pm UTC (link)
	Or you know, Tetsujin 28-go, who did it in the 1960s. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	filbypott 2009-06-27 12:16 am UTC (link)
	Alan Moore cares naught for your petty concepts of space/time! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	aaron_bourque 2009-06-27 01:10 am UTC (link)
	Controlled by a video game joypad . . . in the 60s?? I think not, good sir! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	foxhack 2009-06-27 12:14 pm UTC (link)
	Because a video game joypad isn't the same as a remote control device. No sir! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtoreth 2009-06-27 04:05 pm UTC (link)
	It isn't, but now I feel the urge to refer to all game controllers as remote control devices. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	seriousfic 2009-06-26 11:07 pm UTC (link)
	"We may even go for something totally outrageous and vary their bra-sizes." Ha ha, I love you Alan Moore. Then you say something about how uncle-niece incest is TRES AWESOME and I remember you're a dirty old man/bitter hippie. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-06-27 01:11 am UTC (link)
	He says they're going to leave it up to the imagination of the audience, which I think is kind of prescient in the early 90s. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	seriousfic 2009-06-27 01:14 am UTC (link)
	It's still an intentional subtext, not "and we won't say Batman doesn't own an inflatable sheep, we'll just leave it up to the audience." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	killermoth1 2009-06-27 01:40 am UTC (link)
	Oh my goodness, Alan Moore found a way to actually integrate wonderful female characters into comics without making them one dimensional fantasies. Why has this never happened! :p (Reply to this)

hyaroo
2009-06-27 02:59 am UTC (link)

What's kinda neat about this is how you can practically see Alan Moore sitting there and pondering how to word this outline for Rob Liefeld specifically to read... how he's practically going "No, Rob, we don't want fifty different tem members with no personalities, we don't want women with double-jointed back and breasts bigger than their heads, we don't want crappy and unimaginative art," just in a more polite way. And using the word "sexy" and alluding to sex a lot of times to "sell" the point.

The scan from the actual comic is fun too, with a pretty good way of showing just how fast Doc Rocket really is while adding a lot of personality.

Never thought I'd actually be intrigued by any Youngblood comic, but now I kinda want to see what happens next...

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statham1986
2009-06-27 04:34 am UTC (link)

Reading stuff like this always makes me laugh when I think of people over at Newsarama and the like who accuse Moore of being a crotchety old git or a crybaby because he 'hates comics and their characters'. This plainly displays he had stuff that he loved reading (like the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans) and a keen awareness of what the current trends were and how to play with and against the standards of the day. And Liefeld is quite obviously an idiot for not using this stuff. I mean, look at Moore's Wildcats, which is a fantastic read.

But no, it really does always make me laugh when I read people saying Moore hates comics. It's obviously not a dislike for the books and the characters, more a completely fair hatred of those in charge.

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arbre_rieur
2009-06-27 06:34 am UTC (link)

"And Liefeld is quite obviously an idiot for not using this stuff."

If you want to read something that'll really make you want to bang your head against the wall, track down the Rob Liefeld interview in which he talks about Moore's time with Awesome Comics. He makes the claim that Awesome is responsible for resurrecting Moore's career and spends much of the time badmouthing the man.

Let's see... ah yes, here we go: Rob Liefeld shoots on Alan Moore.

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statham1986
2009-06-27 09:05 am UTC (link)

Yeah, I've read it before. It's nothing more than the latest bout of egotism to come from the man who can't draw feet, but hilarious nonetheless.

Astonishing is the fact that Liefeld can be on the money at times, especially in his assertion that the Supreme stories Moore wrote were really well-received (and I'd wager if they were elseworld-style Superman stories, they'd go down in history alongside WHTTMOT and FTMWHE), and that some elements of Supreme were recycled and reused as Tom Strong - But only because Liefeld was dumb enough not to use them.

I also find it interesting that he tries to stand up for the likes of Lloyd and Gibbons over the movies of V and Watchmen, as if the writer isn't entitled to his own opinion and should just shut up because he's having cash flung at him, which completely contradicts what Liefeld says about Moore being business minded. Funny, Rob, I thought it was called having standards about your work and how it and you are treated.

Last point - A 'whiner'? This, from the man who shows up on Newsarama frequently to attack those with contstructive criticism of his work.

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	halloweenjack 2009-06-27 02:18 pm UTC (link)
	Before I'd actually seen (and read) Moore's Supreme run, I would have dismissed the idea of Moore working with, and for, Liefeld as a bad joke, and in a way it really was. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-06-27 07:20 pm UTC (link)
	On Rob Liefeld? (Reply to this) (Parent)

galateus
2009-11-11 04:18 am UTC (link)

Oh god, that sounds awesome. And looks awesome. I have to go buy the rest of this right--

However, despite Moore's well-publicized plans for at least 12 issues of his new Youngblood, only two issues were ever printed and the third issue was published in another book called Awesome Adventures.

...Oh. Great Rao, why?!

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	ex_agata254 2010-01-15 11:46 am UTC (link)
	Thanks a lot for the post! I love Alan Moore and most of his works. The Youngblood is not the exception. I do think it's great because each of the characters presented there has a distinct personality and possesses a defined set of powers and skills. All these make the characters interesting to observe. Youngblood FOREVER! sex toy is the most fun you can have without laughing (Reply to this)