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pyrotwilight (pyrotwilight) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-26 01:33:00

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char: agent orange/larfleeze, char: brother hynn, char: brother warth, char: evil star, char: ganthet, char: saint walker, char: sayd, char: sister sercy, creator: eddy barrows, creator: geoff johns, creator: philip tan, group: blue lantern corps, title: green lantern

Green Lantern #42 Return of the Blue Man Group
Two more pages from Green Lantern #42 if this won't make you think the Guardians are jackasses, nothing will.

The GL's and Guardians whilst fighting eventually get Larfleeze to listen again and the Guardians and Larfleeze strike a new deal with Larfleeze wanting to know only one thing (since Hal finally used his Blue ring and it escaped)

I can only hope that at this point the Blue Lanterns alliance with the Indigo Tribe has come through since the Blue's are virtually defenseless without a GL there.

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jlroberson
2009-06-26 01:19 am UTC (link)

I always thought the Guardians were assholes, and their "protection" of the universe suspicious. And Vega was off-limits to them even all the way back to the Omega Men first appearing in GL, right? Though this wasn't the explanation.

And lucky, lucky GL comics, with their decentralized protagonists--MANY human GLs, sometimes all at once--so that instead of having endless retcons they can have history lasting longer than an emo kid's blink. No Crisis harms them. This may be why, as Supes and those fade, this comic keeps getting readers. It's the only one with a solid and comprehensible history that isn't just continuity porn.

And I swear to god I want Nekron to be behind Darkest Night. Yes, I was that much of a GL fan at 11 or 12.

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	superfan1 2009-06-26 02:19 am UTC (link)
	The Guardians are bunch of jerks, don't they ever learn their lesson? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	starwolf_oakley 2009-06-26 11:28 am UTC (link)
	They were murdered by Parallax possessing Hal Jordan and then resurrected by Kyle Rayner (I think). The Guardians probably just think "If we were wrong, we'd still be dead, wouldn't we?" (Reply to this) (Parent)

	cmdr_zoom 2009-06-26 07:48 pm UTC (link)
	Millions of years of history filled with one fuckup after another point to "no." They also have a really bad habit of relying on "swallow the spider to catch the fly" solutions, in which the thing they come up with to fix their last fuckup is usually the proximate cause of the next. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-06-26 02:28 am UTC (link)
	It does beg the question, what could Larfleeze use a blue ring for since greed is all about "IS NOW", hope is all about the "TO BE". (Reply to this) (Thread)

	sir_razorback 2009-06-26 02:32 am UTC (link)
	The whole point is that it's shiny and he wants it. Think of him as a Space Gollum. He dosen't care about how to use it, he just wants it. Kindof like a 14 yr old and internet acess for porn. =p (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-06-26 02:33 am UTC (link)
	So why not give one to him? His greed is satisfied and there's not much he can do with it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	zegim 2009-06-26 04:05 am UTC (link)
	My guess is that he would not want one, but every single Blue Lantern Ring for himself. Otherwise. I don't know. The Guardias enjoy being jerks or something. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	vignettelante 2009-06-26 04:52 am UTC (link)
	I don't think Larfleeze would give them a [i]chance[/i] to. They'd probably be willing. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlroberson 2009-06-26 07:07 pm UTC (link)
	Or a comic or toy collector who immediately stores, rather than enjoys, what they accumulate. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	01d55 2009-06-26 04:13 am UTC (link)
	Larfleeze figures hope is all about wishing for things, and he wishes he wasn't so hungry - that he could fill his belly - and he figures the blue ring can do that. And the blue ring actually did, for a moment, so nothing and no-one is going to convince him that he could only find satisfaction from giving the orange ring up, and not from getting a blue. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-06-26 04:49 am UTC (link)
	Interesting... Might that not also work to disable him completely then? If he can be sated by a single blue ring, then he'd be no further threat. And if that were achieved, then he wouldn't want more since the ring would be sating him sufficiently to overcome the greed. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ex_stig213 2009-06-26 06:08 am UTC (link)
	The early preview, way back in the final issue of Sinestro Corps War, showed the orange constructs trying to grab at every ring available; presumably, he'll realise that he needs all the power he can get. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2009-06-26 05:10 am UTC (link)
	I've always considered the GL Corps and the Oans as pricks. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-06-26 04:11 pm UTC (link)
	They make more sense if you look at it as a cop show. And the Guardians are the asshole sergeant, and Hal is the renegade who makes his own rules and is always in trouble. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	cmdr_zoom 2009-06-26 07:49 pm UTC (link)
	"You're a loose cannon, Jordan! You're off the case!" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	glimmung 2009-06-26 09:43 pm UTC (link)
	Hand in your badge and gun! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlroberson 2009-06-27 10:14 am UTC (link)
	Sounds exactly right, doesn't it?... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	salamangkiero 2009-06-26 05:10 am UTC (link)
	I've always considered the GL Corps and the Oans as pricks. (Reply to this)

vignettelante
2009-06-26 05:35 am UTC (link)

It really bugs me that the Blues can't do anything without a GL there. The reasoning is silly--pure willpower is as useless as pure hope, what both need are action, and that's what the rings are for.

Also it means that "And after my schooling in the ways of the ring, will you allow me to return home? To save those I can from the oppression of Evil Star?" is a recipe for disappointment. "Lesson 1: How to mooch off Green Lanterns"

So I do kinda hope the Blue Lanterns are all "Psych! We just said that to try to get Hal Jordan on our side! Taste cerulean justice, interlopers!"

Also, man, the guardians are jackdouches.

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It's all getting kind of unimaginative

jlroberson
2009-06-26 12:04 pm UTC (link)

This is why we've never seen the blue before. Natural selection. They just don't last too long.

And I'm just going to say it: Johns still hasn't convinced me there's any kind of loss. The blue are just so...INSIPID. I have a hard time thinking only the yellow and green wielders have full personalities. The other rings have the AMAZING ABILITY to allow Johns to write totally one-note characters.

Also: Hey blue lanterns! Be useful! Go to more dead planets and restore them! Or do you only do that to impress Jordan?

I'm serious. The thing is, their use doesn't appear to be COMBAT. I think it's a little silly that, well...all these rings with all their particularities, and they ALL use them to fight? Seems to me the Blue are better used like medics or chaplains, as one example. Or like the Army Corps of Engineers. Or FEMA(if it was effective).

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	Re: It's all getting kind of unimaginative comicoz 2009-06-26 01:20 pm UTC (link)
	I got the impression from the various prep notes that the Indigo (tribe) Lanterns were the medics. I don't see why Hope can't fight. You can do a helluva lot in the name of hope. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: It's all getting kind of unimaginative jlroberson 2009-06-26 03:10 pm UTC (link)
	That's so, but we're talking about Johns' version of "hope." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlbarnett 2009-06-26 04:42 pm UTC (link)
	I figure that Guardian power is pretty similar to GL power, so Ganthet and Sayd can lead the attack with the Blue Corps backing them. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

bruinsfan
2009-06-27 11:47 am UTC (link)

Yeah, even if they're charged up with the blue spectrum energy (with whatever peculiarities of use it possesses) instead of the customary green, they're still Guardians. You know, the race with the strongest mental powers in the entire universe. I would expect that Ganthet and Sayd alone are more than a match for Larfleeze, and bet that the defensive aspects of the blue light will protect them better from the orange than green lantern power did the other Guardians when they confronted it.

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	crinosg 2009-06-26 07:30 am UTC (link)
	I dunno about them being helpless, In that last panel it looks like those guys are all ready for a fight; Big elephant dude is already layin the smack down, and Saint Walker looks like he's ready to choke a bitch. (Reply to this)

	thormonger 2009-06-26 10:36 am UTC (link)
	It's possible that Ganthet and Sayd can, by their proximity and own power, empower the Blue Lanterns to fully act. Or Ganthet will make a distress call and have Hal swoop in to help. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-06-26 12:05 pm UTC (link)
	I think right now they'd have plenty of Hope power. Wouldn't you? Though it'd be more like "Oh SHIT" power. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	enerprime 2009-06-26 02:10 pm UTC (link)
	I don't think Larfleeze will be much of a threat to the blues with Ganthet and Sayd there. Besides the fact that those two are insanely powerful on their own, gaurdians , Ganthet specificly, has been shown to use green power on their own, withou the Oan Central battery. They can probably generate a 'willpower' field to let their lanterns use their rings. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	thanekos 2009-06-26 02:56 pm UTC (link)
	but larfleeze isn't one lantern, he's his entire corps. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	enerprime 2009-06-26 03:17 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, but combined with the fact that the Orange ring's main combat advantage (the ability to absorb the power out of other corps rings) doesn't work on Blues, Ganthet and Sayd's crack-a-planet-in-half-with-a- thought level power still makes this a fairly even fight. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	comicoz 2009-06-26 03:05 pm UTC (link)
	"I can only hope that at this point the Blue Lanterns alliance with the Indigo Tribe has come through since the Blue's are virtually defenseless without a GL there." I don't have a place to host images currently, but if you look at the war of light fight spread, on the far left edge you'll see an Indigo lantern taking out a Blue. Guess they don't get along that well. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-06-26 04:10 pm UTC (link)
	Hope vs. compassion. That doesn't even make sense. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlbarnett 2009-06-26 04:57 pm UTC (link)
	maybe he's injured and being healed? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	nymphgalatea 2009-06-26 05:05 pm UTC (link)
	I have this horrible feeling that the Indigo Corps aresn't going to be all sweetness & light. Geoff Johns idea of hope, compassion & love seems rather different to ours. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlbarnett 2009-06-26 05:17 pm UTC (link)
	well, they are mid range on the positive emotion scale. That means more obsessive about what they do than blue, but more rational than violet. They aren't potrayed as fighters anywhere, but they may be a little to willing to "put people out of their misery" (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlroberson 2009-06-26 07:05 pm UTC (link)
	It's not relevant, but I gotta say: It makes me wonder about both his upbringing and his past relationships. Consider that his idea of love is total possession, and then freezing the object of love in place forever like in amber. I'm still wondering about his peculiar fixation on dismemberment as well. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	seawolf10 2009-06-27 09:43 pm UTC (link)
	I gotta say, I'm hardly Johns' biggest fan, and he's definitely got some psychological issues, but...not-so-subtly implying that he's a serial killer is a bit much, don't you think? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	galateus 2009-08-14 12:46 pm UTC (link)
	Heh. I didn't read that implication at all in that comment--but now I can't not see it. (Still think it was unintentional, though.) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	zordboy 2009-08-14 11:22 am UTC (link)
	Given what we saw the Indigo Lanterns do in "Tales of the Lantern Corps", I agree with this. I don't think the Indigo Corp are that nice, actually. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	comicoz 2009-06-26 06:05 pm UTC (link)
	Possible I suppose. My natual pessimism sees it as him giving the guy a shot in the chest. (Reply to this) (Parent)