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Tweak says, "But a WOLF?!"

proteus_lives (proteus_lives) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-03-28 22:33:00

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creator: garth ennis, nsfw: gore

It's Ennis-Time!
Greetings True Believers! I bring you scans from Crossed #4. A charming little series that Garth Ennis is doing for Avatar. Some of you may remember me posting about it in -SD-That-Was. The point of this post is that beyond his work in Punisher, I can't take Ennis seriously anymore. You'll see why. BTW, Crossed is a world beset by "28 days later" style lunatics with an Ennis touch. Spoilers and NSFW!

So yeah. Does anyone take Ennis seriously anymore?

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	foxhack 2009-03-28 09:46 pm UTC (link)
	I think that anyone who takes Ennis seriously (when he's writing these sorts of books) is the one who has a problem. (Reply to this)

besamim
2009-03-28 10:07 pm UTC (link)

It's stuff like this that almost makes me think the Comic Book Defence Fund should have a "comics we won't defend" clause.

That is not art. It is not entertainment. It is not high-faluting "expression." It is pure obscenity that gives the medium a bad name and if I were a comic shop owner I would neither carry it nor special-order it.

(And I speak as someone who not only has plenty of NSFW matter in his collection but also owns and loves Preacher, his run on Hellblazer and and other works Ennis created before he apparently decided he hated comics and their readers.)

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	neuhallidae 2009-03-28 11:33 pm UTC (link)
	....Is the old dude wearing some guy's face as a pair of bikini underwear? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ashtoreth 2009-03-28 11:49 pm UTC (link)
	With a cut out for his balls! Classy! I know I'm jaded because the internet has taught me that's not what a horse cock looks like. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mr_anon_y_mous 2009-03-29 01:20 am UTC (link)
	Yeah horse cocks are much larger. Furries and Mr. Hands thought me this. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kamino_neko 2009-03-29 04:26 am UTC (link)
	With a cut out for his balls! I don't think it's a cut out...I think they're just falling out of the mouth. ... WHY DID I GIVE THIS EVEN A MOMENT'S THOUGHT?! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	saturn_girl9 2009-03-29 03:38 am UTC (link)
	If I didn't love Preacher so much, that one panel of the old man with the dead face bikini would be enough to turn me off of Ennis forever. Every time I make the mistake of reading Crossed scans, I feel like vomiting. I need to trust my instincts and bypass the Crossed entries! (Reply to this) (Parent)

thehefner.livejournal.com
2009-03-29 12:32 am UTC (link)

The thing that gets me is, while I detest the obnoxious!Ennis of THE BOYS, WORMWOOD, and MARVEL KNIGHTS PUNISHER, I deeply adore serious!Ennis of WAR STORIES, ENEMY ACE: WAR IN HEAVEN, and PUNISHER MAX (PREACHER and HITMAN walked the line but pulled it off because they generally erred for the latter over the former).

When Ennis first announced the concept for CROSSED, I have to admit, I got chills. I found it deeply disturbing and rich with horrific potential, especially since he said in interviews that it would be totally devoid of humor, which I took to mean devoid of obnoxiousness. But for the first time, it's like he's managed to do the obnoxiousness in a non-comedic fashion, and the result is even more...

... shit, it's barely even offensive at this point. It's just... really? Sighh. What a waste of potential.

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proteus_lives
2009-03-29 06:03 pm UTC (link)

Ennis was born to write Punisher and it needs to be in MAX so he can express himself. His work on The Boys/Wormwood/Crossed could seem like venting against the industry/his fans/comic book heroes/....whatever. But another view could be that he's run out of things to say and he's venting a lot of self-rage.

(Also I'm half-convinced he's letting off steam from being in the closet all his life. His works contain a lot of homosexual imagery and themes/violent sexual imagery/hateful female characters.)

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	gwalla.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 12:03 am UTC (link)
	I dunno, I think Hitman was weakest when it was being entirely serious. It worked as a funny, somewhat over-the-top comic with just enough seriousness to add bite. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mykie1234 2009-03-29 02:34 am UTC (link)
	The test of one's conviction of support for free speech is not in the cases when you like the work but more when you don't. Does that make sense? Its late. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	johnzdrake 2009-03-29 12:30 pm UTC (link)
	Wait a minute, I see you seeing me. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kingrockwell 2009-03-29 03:26 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I get what you're saying there, and I think this is a good example of that kinda work. Should it be reprehensible? Sure! Illegal, never. It's the whole "I don't agree with what you're saying, but I defend to death your right to say it" thing (Reply to this) (Parent)

	sandoz_iscariot 2009-03-29 09:21 am UTC (link)
	Well...at least he seems to happy in that little world of his. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2009-03-29 10:05 am UTC (link)
	It's...not supposed to be taken seriously, guys. I think thats pretty obvious. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	woogledesigns 2009-03-29 11:16 am UTC (link)
	I still don't get why they killed all those kids. Just because... cannibals don't deserve to live? What? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	proteus_lives 2009-03-29 12:03 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, that shook me too. I didn't get the reasoning. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	woogledesigns 2009-03-29 12:22 pm UTC (link)
	Probably: "You know with all this rape and bloodshed the readers might be getting desensitised." -"Then we've got not choice." "We've got to kill some children." -"It's the right choice, the hard choice." "Not really, they'll be sleeping" -"The moral choice." "Don't milk it, mate." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	liarashadowsong 2009-03-29 01:10 pm UTC (link)
	o_O gags This does not deserve to be published. It is neither art nor entertainment, and I see absolutely no redeeming features in it. Must remember freedom of speech... but that doesn't mean that this should have been published, only that he has the legal freedom to write/draw it. shudders (Reply to this)

tsuki_the_geek
2009-03-29 01:36 pm UTC (link)

Sigh... yeeeeeeah. Ennis has written some of the most fascinating comics in my collection (his contribution to Spider Man: Tangled Web still gives me chills) and also comics that you couldn't pay me to read. But then, on some level I feel the same about Loeb and even to a point Miller-- I think when a comic writer gets to a certain level of percieved demi-Godness there is a temptation to say, "I can do whatever I want now!" and put out batshit terrible craziness

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	proteus_lives 2009-03-29 05:58 pm UTC (link)
	His story in S:TW is great, so are huge portions of his work. I think he needs a tighter leash from the editors. He's such a talented writer but he's run out of things to say. He keeps harping on a few points/issues and doesn't seem to want to try out anything new. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	shadoestar 2009-03-29 02:32 pm UTC (link)
	Garth Ennis, welcome to the Major Fall From Grace Club. Frank Miller and John Byrne have been assigned to show you around. (Reply to this)

	meatwhichdreams 2009-03-29 07:59 pm UTC (link)
	Well....well, huh. Do I want to know what's going on here, or will I be so, so sorry? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	lonewolf23k 2009-03-30 06:29 am UTC (link)
	Basically, it's a Zombie apocalypse, only instead of Zombies you've got insane cannibal rapists. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	meatwhichdreams 2009-03-30 08:22 am UTC (link)
	Mmm...mm-hmmm. And Ennis thought that one all up by himself, eh? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	midnightvoyager.livejournal.com 2009-03-30 09:02 am UTC (link)
	Just because I am not the only one, apparently, who screamed upon pulling up her LJ friendslist, could SOMEONE PLEASE make a public post about how to make a proper cut that works on the feed? Because OW. MY EYES. (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2009-03-30 04:12 pm UTC (link)
	Ennis has missed an opportunity to correctly use the word "pizzle". There's really no hope for him. (Reply to this)

	gwalla.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 12:02 am UTC (link)
	Wait, we were supposed to be taking Ennis seriously? Since when? (This is pretty lame, though. Gross for gross's sake is a waste of time.) (Reply to this)