she's been there for 2 years, but she would visit somewhat regularly since she was a baby because she has distant relatives in the area that her mom was close to. so they could know each other from way back if that's the case. she's very awkward with men, so if we go them maybe meeting when they were kids or teens or some such, he'd have known her as a very awkward little girl. then as they got older, well, she's still awkward but she's endearing? lol i'm going to make her 37!