Who: Dan Hoffman (rustin peace) & Mary Jackson (inkstaind) What: Chatting. When: Sunday night. Where: Online chatroom Rating: PG-13 Status: Complete
rustin peace has signed on pow wow: im just saying. they want to bring their bs to seattle, let em pow wow: what do we care pow wow: they'll just get arrested yellin: cause we shouldn't have to be afraid for our safety in our own city yellin: this sort of thing works in new york pow wow: no it doesn't rustin peace: are you guys arguing about the protests? rustin peace: it's free speech. inkstaind has signed on inkstaind: Yo. inkstaind: Wow, no familiar faces today. pow wow: totally pow wow: inkstaind, hi rustin peace: people should be allowed to exercise their free rights. at the rate we're going, we won't have them for long. rustin peace: yo, inkstaind. nkstaind: Hey, hey. inkstaind: Free rights? What are we arguing about now, kids? yellin: read the papers rustin peace: protests. seattle. reproductive rights. rustin peace: this is a good time to bow out if you'd like inkstaind: When it's just getting interesting? You've got to be kidding. inkstaind: I've got a vested interest in this, don't I? Not that I've been protesting, but I see where they're coming from. pow wow: thank you rustin peace: safer to get out before the flame flinging starts. rustin peace: although you're welcome to stay ^^ yellin: why is it such a problem that the govt is trying to help us return to traditional values? i grew up without a dad, i don't want my kids to go through that rustin peace: there's no guarantee a traditional family setting is 'better' than a single parent inkstaind: Studies have shown that it doesn't make a difference if the family is traditional or not, all that matters is that the kids are loved. inkstaind: And besides, if we always held with tradition, we wouldn't even be in America, would we? We'd all still have British accents. inkstaind: That argument really doesn't hold, is what I'm saying. rustin peace: or speak yiddish ^^ yellin: not true. you still need a mother and a father - i maintain that higher divorce rates contribute to an unstable family environment rustin peace: that's a very slippery slope, yellin inkstaind: lol, rust. Nice. inkstaind: Of course higher divorce rates contribute to an unstable family environment - you're messing with the family dynamic. Would you rather people stay together and remain unhappy, and provide a poisonous atmosphere for their kids? yellin: people could try. that's what couples therapy is for rustin peace: not every contract is built to last. believe it or not, marriage is a contract. yellin: it's more than that. inkstaind: It shouldn't be. It's a legal document to provide certain benefits. inkstaind: Love and religion really don't have a place in marriage - if I love someone, I don't need a piece of paper telling me that. inkstaind: I do want that piece of paper to let me file joint taxes and visit my partner in the hospital, though. rustin peace: and inherit and take custody of children and so on. yellin: marriage is the basis for our society. inkstaind: Yeah, all those nice legal benefits. inkstaind: And yellin, that's just simply not true. inkstaind: Marriage is a big part of our culture but not the basis of it. There are plenty of people who are single and planned to stay that way - myself for one. inkstaind: The nice thing about America was that we used to have at least that choice, even if we couldn't marry who we wanted to. rustin peace: inkstaind, i like the way you think rustin peace: we're intelligent creatures, we can decide for ourselves if we want to spawn or not. forcing us is going to do more long term harm to traditional marriage than divorce or infertility. rustin peace: did you know marriage rates spiked during the crisis? yellin has signed off inkstaind: Aw, look at that. inkstaind: Some people just can't handle opposing viewpoints. inkstaind: Frankly, I think this entire situation is ridiculous. rustin peace: now now rustin peace: let's not get cocky. rustin peace: coincidental router problems happen rustin peace: you're in the right room, ink. pow wow: ack, was afk. what did i miss? inkstaind: There's no coincidence in the world, rust. Everything happens when it does for a reason, sometimes we just aren't privy to it. :) inkstaind: Not a lot, pow. Just discussing marriage itself. pow wow: good stuff. oven dinged. can't you smell the lasagna from wherever you are? rustin peace: good philosophy. take it you're not a believer in fate, ink? rustin peace: someone call bill gates. we need olfactory internet inkstaind: Nope, but there's a burger and fries calling my name in the living room. inkstaind: Fate? I don't like the idea of it. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth. rustin peace: chase it with burger & fries then pow wow: fast food lovers, i'll never get you rustin peace: maybe it's a homemade burger and fries inkstaind: My girlfriend brought some burgers over. Sorry to disappoint, but yeah, fast food. inkstaind: Can't help it, I love the grease. inkstaind: On that note, I'm going to go hang out with her. Feel free to add me, rust, you seem interesting. And if yellin comes back around, tell them to add me too - I'd love to discuss these things in greater detail. rustin peace: will do. enjoy your dinner. pow wow: add me too! rustin peace: check out my blog at [address]. i'm curious to hear what you think nkstaind: Sure thing, pow. Hit me up next time you see me on. I'll check it out, rust, and I'm sure you'll be hearing from me. Peace out. :) inkstaind has signed off