[voice]
He's a kind who seems to know a lot about science and experiments. [a verbal shrug, sort of. On some level he should be more careful about using people he knows to help him, on another level he just doesn't care.]
I might be in luck, though. Kitty seems to know someone who can get things out of people without hurting their skin. [sure she privated that discussion, but it surely wasn't a big deal.]