[He laughs.] No, they both have the same ultimate aim; the first group, SEELE, actually established the second, NERV, to do most of their work for them so that they could remain in the overseeing and planning position. But then the commander of NERV decided that he wanted to hijack the plan and have it play out his way. Unfortunately for him, SEELE never fully trusted him, so they created me - my job was to take back the plan if he went too far.