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Sam Winchester ([info]tallerthanthou) wrote in [info]marinanova,
@ 2014-02-16 14:34:00

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Entry tags::class, :mingle, anya jenkins, doctor facilier, martha jones, nathan harris, nico di angelo, sam winchester, zatanna zatara

Day 258 : Paranormal Studies : Open Class Mingle
[Sam looks over the class. There's someone missing. He knew Reid would be gone from Kitty's announcements earlier, but maybe he was still hoping for something else. He hasn't really allowed himself to get close to people here—not many anyway. Reid was getting in that circle.

But life and class goes on, right? He clears his throat.]
Today, we're going to talk about the djinn. Some of you might know them as genies.


Overview : Djinn

But they don't actually live in lamps. They don't even really grant wishes, they just make you think they do.

They're a humanoid species with ornately tattoo-covered skin who usually live in ruins with lots of hiding places. They have the ability to read minds and see a person's deepest desires. They also create a poison they use to infect their prey. This will knock the person out, putting them in a hallucinogenic dream state where they think their wish is being granted. During this time the djinn feeds on their blood—slowly. It can take a few days before the victim dies, but it would feel like longer than that in the dream world.

There are lots of references to the djinn in the Qu'ran and Arab folklore. They're believed to occupy a parallel world to mankind. It's said that they were created by Allah in a smokeless fire.

[ DJINN ]


Practical : Defense of Djinn

If you encounter a djinn the most important thing is not letting them touch you. That's how you get infected and once you're trapped in your own fantasy the chance of breaking out of that is pretty low. During the infection their eyes and hands can glow.

You can break their hold over a person by killing the djinn with a silver knife dipped in lamb's blood.

[ Silver ]


Case Study : Joliet, IL

We came across one in Joliet, Illinois. Some girls had gone missing and we were tracking it. Dean found it in an abandon warehouse, but it got the better of him. Before I got there he managed to play out a couple of days in dream reality. He told me later that he was able to break free of it by killing himself in the dream. You just have to be really sure you're in a djinn-fueled dream to do something like that. Anyway, I had the knife on me and the djinn showed up, there was a fight, and we managed to get one of the girls out of there in time.

[ Joliet, IL Case ]


Questions & Discussion
Okay, I think that's everything, so thoughts? Questions? Anyone want to say be careful what you wish for?


(OOC: Mingle style. Notifs are off so tag Sam during class with questions or catch him before or after. Use your discretion with the links provided. Sam didn't necessarily cover every detail, but feel free to bring more into it, but his canon point is toward the send of season 5, so nothing beyond that. Also, this is backdated to class time.)



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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-02-16 08:37 pm UTC (link)
[Sam is just putting his notes in order. Feel free to bother him before or after class.]

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[info]nico_di_angelo
2014-02-17 04:08 am UTC (link)
[Nico waits until the lesson is over. He only came here by accident, but stayed because he'd never met a djinn. New knowledge is never a bad thing, especially where monsters are concerned.]

Does it have to be silver?

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-02-17 04:13 am UTC (link)
Yes. There may be other methods. [He imagines the colt would do it too, but since there's only one of those he doesn't mention it.] But to be safe you'd want silver dipped in lamb's blood. At least on a djinn from my world. Different realities are...different. [This is a top-notch Stanford education right here.] But in my experience silver is a powerful metal that many supernatural beings respond to like werewolves and shifters. The lamb's blood is specific to djinn though. [And he sure did just go on about that to a teen.]

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[info]nico_di_angelo
2014-02-17 04:36 am UTC (link)
Hm. I've never experienced that. Why is the blood necessary? [His mind is sorting through a long-gone stack of cards, trying to recall any monsters with a blood weakness.] What about Celestial bronze? Imperial gold? Stygian iron?

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-02-17 04:45 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure exactly, but blood is a symbol of life. They also feed on blood to survive like vampires and dead man's blood can kill them too, so maybe something about turning their lifeforce back on them.

And I haven't heard of any of those metals. [Although "Stygian" resonates with him.]

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[info]nico_di_angelo
2014-02-17 05:00 am UTC (link)
Sort of like empousa. I never needed blood to kill one though. [Nico shrugs. It's just information to file away.]

I've never heard of using silver to fight a monster, except in movies.

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-02-17 05:09 am UTC (link)
Empousa? [He frowns, but he knows that name too.] The daughter of the goddess Hecate and the spirit Mormo. She seduced men and drank their blood while they slept. [He says it with the lilt of a question to see if that's what he meant. Sam has read the lore, but as far as he knows she's just a story. Possibly the basis for the succubus.]

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[info]nico_di_angelo
2014-02-17 05:20 am UTC (link)
Um, yeah. There's actually more than one... But yes. Nasty creatures.

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-02-17 05:22 am UTC (link)
More than one? What's your name? [Since you know some interesting things.]

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[info]notrosesshadow
2014-02-17 03:24 pm UTC (link)
[Martha waits for everyone else to file out or ask their questions. She has no questions about today's lesson, mainly because she's still digesting what he had said. When they're finally alone, she makes her way over to him.]

It never ceases to amaze me how legends can take something and twist it to being so wrong.

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-02-18 03:39 am UTC (link)
Yeah, most everything comes from at least a grain of truth, but by the time it's been passed from one observer to the next to the person doing the writing to a translation or two it gets a little distorted.

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[info]notrosesshadow
2014-02-18 04:57 am UTC (link)
It's like that game we played when we were kids. When someone starts out with a song lyric and whispers it in their neighbors ear and all around the circle it goes. And by the time it gets back it's something different. Only in this case, it's thousands of years of legends and the Arabian Nights.

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-02-24 04:23 am UTC (link)
Exactly. It's a very long running game of telephone.

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[info]notrosesshadow
2014-02-24 04:50 pm UTC (link)
Long running and ultimately dangerous. Other than avoiding ruined buildings and avoiding contact with the Djinn, is there anyway to protect yourself against them?

[If she ever gets back home, ruined buildings are something she has to deal with for her job.]

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-02-28 05:16 am UTC (link)
Always carry silver dipped in lamb's blood?

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[info]notrosesshadow
2014-03-03 02:30 am UTC (link)
So just your general run of the mill things I see. I'll be sure to pick up a sacrificial lamb on my way back to my flat today.

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-03-04 05:21 am UTC (link)
Then you'll be all set. Really, having holy water, silver, and salt on you at all times isn't a bad idea, but none of them are as reliable here either.

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[info]gotvoodoo
2014-02-18 10:53 am UTC (link)
[ He had gone to the lecture on a whim but it certainly had been worth the effort, it had spoken to him up to the point of drinking blood to kill of the target slowly. That seems very unnecessary but none the less he swaggers up to Sam at the end.]

Fascinating stuff. [ It had definitely given him some ideas to think about.] I do have one little question, shouldn't there be a way to protect oneself from these demons? A talisman made in silver dipped in lambs blood for instance?

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-02-24 04:10 am UTC (link)
Djinn aren't technically a kind of demon. As far as a talisman goes, it's possible. A lot of what we know is trial and error. It's not the safest thing to test.

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[info]gotvoodoo
2014-02-24 10:10 am UTC (link)
No that don't sound safe at all. [ But it does seem like the boy doesn't have the answers to everything supernatural, which is very good to know.]

I'm sure you can work it out somehow.

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-02-28 05:17 am UTC (link)
[So many questions left, fear not!]

I've been doing okay so far. [Except that part where he drank demon blood and started the apocalypse.]

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[info]gotvoodoo
2014-03-01 01:58 am UTC (link)
Glad to hear, teach. [ So very reassuring, he got all the confidence in this kid.]

So been coming across a lot of these...Well things?

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-03-03 05:19 am UTC (link)
The one in the story was my first and only so far actually. What about you? Ever met one?

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[info]gotvoodoo
2014-03-03 10:42 am UTC (link)
No, not a single one actually. Never even heard about this particular version ever before.

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[info]tallerthanthou
2014-03-04 04:56 am UTC (link)
Just the kind in lamps that grant wishes?

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