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Mods of Kiseki RPG (kiseki_mods) wrote in kiseki_rpg,
@ 2015-01-30 13:29:00

Current mood:	bored
Entry tags:	concrit meme, meme, mod post, ooc

Concrit meme - Take 79!
Time for our monthly How's My Driving meme!

- Comment to this post with a list of your characters. You may add any commentary you'd like, such as things you'd wish to get feedback on.

- Reply anonymously to the other players, giving concrit on how they're playing/their characterization/their interactions/etc.

- Flat-out negative comments will get screened/frozen/deleted, and can be grounds for banning if they're bad enough. Game rules apply here as well, so don't use it as an excuse to insult others. How can you tell the difference between giving crit and bashing? The second has no purpose. Giving crit means you want things to improve - by clearing out a misunderstanding of a character's actions, by helping a player manage activity better, by pointing out where characterization might be off, etc. If there is a situation with a player that's really problematic and would start big trouble here, consider taking it to us mods instead.

- Simply giving positive feedback is just fine! Of course, we encourage these to be as elaborate as possible, as it's always better to get an idea of why a character/player is doing things right.

This is non-mandatory! If you aren't comfortable with the HMD, or don't feel like posting every time, or whatever the reason is, you don't have to post to it. However, don't be that person who gives crit to others and then doesn't open up for crit themselves.

On that same line of thought - we're a small game! If nobody comments, then the meme doesn't work. If you receive comments, try to leave at least one of your own to somebody else. It's always better if we have many replies, and various POVs.

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(Anonymous)
2015-02-02 06:20 pm UTC (link)

I’ll start by saying that I really love seeing Yuuki around more and it’s great to see you being involved and building up new CR. Yuuki is a lot of fun and I’m always so happy to see her around. It’s clear that you’ve played this character for a long time, because there’s such an ease with her characterization and every tag always feels spot-on.

I’ll say that there are times when certain points of Yuuki’s canon can be upsetting and intense and I feel they aren’t properly warned for? Yuuki is in a relationship with her brother and also impregnated by him, iirc? You bring it up so casually, both icly and oocly, that sometimes I’m uncertain if icly my character is supposed to react to the incest, especially as both icly and oocly it isn’t presented as an odd thing. I think it’d be a beneficial thing to have some kind of more detailed stats or have a permissions post, because it could be potentially triggering/squicking, especially since Kaname’s behavior does trend towards abusive. I know that your journal has a character-specific permissions and other such posts but I don’t recall whether you’ve used it for Kiseki, as the only Kiseki-relevant thing seems to be the game stats. If it’s something that is meant to be used, I think it might be a good idea to link it in the ooc comm and encourage people to use it so that there’s an option to opt-out from specific aspects of her canon.

Because it isn’t just the incest, it’s Kaname. There isn’t anything listed in Yuuki’s stats that says being very close to Yuuki would result in Kaname becoming possessive and potentially deadly to the character. Considering Kaname is a powerful vampire, that isn’t much of a fight, and there might be some muns who simply don’t want to have to deal with that on an ic level. If Kaname is willing to murder someone for touching Yuuki or helping Yuuki, that is definitely something that should be emphasized in her stats. Perhaps this is less relevant now that we don’t have a Kaname, but we have had one in the past and we might have one in the future. I’ve seen several threads with Yuuki in which she explains to a character she’s building CR with that her brother would not take kindly to their relationship, but I don’t see any ooc clarification on that warning and it puts other muns in an awkward position if, ultimately, they wanted to avoid that kind of conflict and didn’t realize what would be the result.

In a similar vein, I know that Yuuki is a vampire and you definitely want to play that up, which is fun and interesting and I’m looking forward to seeing how it’ll play out. But, again, there are threads where the vampirism is emphasized without any prior ooc communication, which could lead to a character having to icly agree or insist on helping Yuuki even if the mun might not have wanted their character to be involved (but it would have proven ooc for the character to ignore the obvious signs).

I’m not saying that these things shouldn’t be played out, because these are core aspects of Yuuki’s character and part of what makes Yuuki who she is. It’s fun for player-driven plots as well as for building strong CR.

What this boils down to is that Yuuki comes from an extremely sensitive canon with heavy quick potential, and I think that because of that, it’s important to emphasize ooc communications so as to avoid potentially awkward or upsetting situations for muns. You play Yuuki extremely well and she’s lovely, but as it stands right now there’s a risk of discomfort about certain aspects of her canon due to lack of warning. Especially because you’ve expressed interest in shipping and flirtiness with Yuuki, which is great don’t get me wrong, but considering the Kaname-factor, it’s important to let others know what they could be potentially signing up for.

And that’s really the only point I wanted to bring up, and that’s not even a matter of characterization. As far as her characterization goes, I see nothing wrong. Like I said, it’s clear that you understand her character and have an ease with playing her and it always shines through in your threads and interactions with her. She’s a lot of fun and I’m happy that she’s in the game and look forward to seeing more from her in the future.

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trappedinresin
2015-02-02 07:10 pm UTC (link)

Hey, thank you for bringing this up to me! I haven't thought much about the fact that her canon might be upsetting or triggering. I remember around when I first joined the game with her, and mentioned that she had a complicated canon and mentioned the problems with Kaname, as well as the incest. And the response I had overwhelmingly (granted) through plurk, was that almost everyone's canon's were complicated- especially CLAMP ones- with bad relationships and dramatic family affairs. And that it would be absolutely no problem at all.

Due to that I hadn't thought much about it since then, and that's not a problem I've run into in any of my other games over the years before. So I apologize if anything Yuuki has said to your character has been upsetting. That's not my intention. My permission post is definitely for all games. I linked it on plurk, once, but again- it might be better if I put it alongside my stats. People are welcome to tell me that they want to opt out of interacting with Yuuki or certain aspects of it. I definitely would like for individuals to be up front with me if something in my playing makes them uncomfortable.

In regards to Kaname- he's not here anymore, so as you said, it shouldn't prove much of a big deal. But I will say that neither myself or the mun would have ever had Kaname attack another character or do anything to them without OOC permission and plotting. And while Kaname can be deadly- he wouldn't murder someone for looking at her or being her friend. Yuuki is afraid that he would because she doesn't understand his intentions. And Kaname is the type to use people (much like Fumito, Jamie, and others), but Kaname himself wouldn't go out of his way to actually hurt someone unless they hurt Yuuki or proved a great risk of some sort. That's her character worrying more so than what reality would likely be for the person. He's a jerk, but he doesn't seriously murder, stalk, or kill for petty reasons. Or rather... the only person he's likely to keep an eye on would be her.

I don't... think Yuuki has told many people that Kaname is (was) her fiance and her brother recently. If she did and it's slipping my mind, I apologize. I know I often talk about it and her vampirisim on plurk when I link posts, so I usually assume that the muns are aware. For my permission post I'll ask that people please tell me up front whether they want vampirism or incest touched upon at all so that I can avoid it with that character altogether. And if something new suddenly happens, will try to make an ooc note. The permissions will help me as well, because if I feel that I need to walk on eggshells around certain characters, or restrain characterization heavily due to what she is, I'll look for her CR elsewhere.

Basically- I'm fine with all of this! And thank you for bringing it to my attention, since I had been under the impression it was not a problem before. I'm just going to ask upfront in my stats that people tell me directly what they want, because otherwise I will default assume that things are okay if someone posts to her, and should something be brought up the character/mun will be able to handle the information.

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