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Regulus Arcturus Black (te_regulus) wrote in hogwarts_dawn,
@ 2021-05-07 15:54:00

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character: draco malfoy, character: lucius malfoy, character: regulus black, character: remus lupin, character: severus snape, character: sirius black

Journal: Regulus
Regulus had spent the night thinking about it. In fact he hadn't done anything but think about Savannah's ridiculous nomination and Albus' self nomination. With no Granger around, he was the only one writing laws and if he was scheming instead, there was no one to stop him, so he decided that it was time to stop acting like a Gryffindor and be the Slytherin he was.

Warded to Lucius

Since you didn't put your name in the hat, I assume that you understand that none of us has the name recognition to make an impact on the international scale. While even a house-elf could run this 'ministry' since we're all self-sufficient, we need Potter's name to pressure the international community. How do we get him back?

Remus and Sirius

I know that this might seem strange coming from me, but you know that I want the best for the wizarding community and that means Harry Bloody Potter in charge. Granted, Gryffindors are stubborn arses, but since you both are Gryffindors, how do we go about to convince him to run for the position and be elected again?

Warded to Draco

You need to convince your boyfriend to become Minister again.

Warded to Theo

Don't tell me you're taking this seriously, right? You should be smart enough to know that the international community will need more than some random kid from whatever year you're from.

Warded to Severus

Do you think there's any way you can tell Potter to run for elections against his son and Theo? I assume that you agree that we need him outside of these walls.

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	Re: Theo/Regulus te_regulus 2021-05-07 09:19 pm UTC (link)
	Then act like it because it doesn't look like you take anything very seriously. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Theo/Regulus forgetme_nott 2021-05-07 09:27 pm UTC (link)
	I'm trying. This is a very new position to be put in. It's not as if I set out to make this scenario happen. What would you have me do? If you were in my shoes, what would you do to correct that? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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te_regulus
2021-05-07 09:51 pm UTC (link)

It is a scenario that you can refuse if you want to, but if you want to know my true concerns, same concerns I shared with someone else who considered running is that while I don't have direct connections to the current international community, I do know that there's one thing that gets their attention: name recognition.

It was the entire reason I supported and still support Potter, but your words made me consider whether I should try despite the fact that it's been a while since the Black family has had any importance, but we do have connection across Europe.

On the other hand, there is one person that I think might solve our Potter problem and your objection and that's not you or me, but Albus Dumbledore.

So your causal attitude will not serve you internally and you can remedy this. There's nothing you can do with your name.

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forgetme_nott
2021-05-07 11:46 pm UTC (link)

I'm open to suggestion. I asked for your opinion because I am genuinely interested to know what you think I should do. As I said, I didnt really expect to be in this position. Potter didnt quite react in a way I anticipated. Name does matter. I just dont necessarily believe the Potter name is the right one.

If you can get Albus Dumbledore to run I will back that plan. I'm somewhat impressed by the sheer scope of his past self's work. I'm a big fan. That being said, I wasnt personally affected by all that. Not like others here.

There isnt much I can do about my name. I can only plan to work with what I have.

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te_regulus
2021-05-08 12:35 am UTC (link)

You aren't the only one who asked and I will be brutally honest with anyone who asks, because in the end, I care about what gives us the best opportunity with the outside world, because internally, we could put an owl in charge and it wouldn't make a bloody difference now that we have a set up.

Dumbledore would be the best choice and I'm shocked I didn't think of him sooner, because he's got the name but none of the baggage the old goat had (I'm not a fan of the man).

Unfortunately I wished the Black name meant more. I would have even supported my idiotic brother.

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forgetme_nott
2021-05-08 09:38 am UTC (link)

I do appreciate that. I'm aware the Minister position is largely a figurehead. However might I suggest that as soon as you pick your owl, you have them peck out an order giving power to the council to vote on matters in the absence of a Minister. If you had this contingency in place, I wouldn't have been nominated out of spite. It would be the first thing I would do.

In my line of work, the name Albus Dumbledore comes up quite often in relation to time and its association with prophecy. It is a fascinating case study. But I will always side with the mysteries on matters. I'd be similarly fascinated by Saul Croaker if he was here. Dumbledore at his present age is the best choice of the options we have. It would also put out one of the many fires I have burning at the moment. Life is oddly complicated right now.

For what its worth you would of had my vote. I'm not here to destroy the system you know, I'm just working with the hand I've been dealt. The sequence of events that lead us here are unusual. I'd be very relieved to see someone in place who'd want to be there, rather than someone like myself who would be saddled with it.

If you can make it happen then it would be a relief to me. This has been a very productive conversation, Regulus.

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te_regulus
2021-05-08 02:18 pm UTC (link)

That wouldn't have helped in this case. We could all run things, but when your Head of Treasury quits at the same time, with no one to pass power to someone else, the Head of the DMLE quits, the problem isn't voting. The only issue was finding a Minister and we couldn't agree on anything. So this was most certainly not a structural problem.

Also pretty sure that it was out of frustration not spite. Savannah wants this gone so no one gets sent back.

I couldn't care less about mystery or research. In fact, mysteries in politics are problematic at best, dangerous at worst. Predictability is what I want and for that reason, Croaker would be useless to us. Dumbeldore saved Europe.

What exactly is happening to you?

I'm going to say what I said to someone else. Did you really think that pushing a Gryffindor to the brink wouldn't make him react irrationally? Have you not had experience with Gryffindors?

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forgetme_nott
2021-05-08 03:34 pm UTC (link)

If the government had been being run by a more competant Minister, contingencies could and should of been in place. Considering we live in a place riddled with uncertainties, it should have been done and had it been, I would not be in this ridiculous situation.

It's hard to see it that way when your nominated in such a fashion. It struck me on a personal note.

The oath I took in the mysteries when I became an unspeakable will always be where my allegiances are. I do acknowledge you are right in your assessment. Croaker is just someone of interest to me, I didn't mean he would be suitable for government. He did. If you get the nomination in, I will second it.

You mean aside from finding myself caught up in a political race? Or being painted as some sort of potential dangerous person who cant be unchecked for 20 minutes? Or the complications of being friends with Draco? This whole situation is dreadful on my end.

You know I've never had a actual conversation with Potter in person in my life? How would I know that conversation would lead to this? It was relatively mild on my end of it.

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te_regulus
2021-05-08 04:36 pm UTC (link)

Far from me to claim that Harry is competent, but I don't think anything would have helped us in this case. No one wants the job. Everyone has to be bulled into taking this position, so no I don't think that anything would have helped.

That's because you're still talking about procedure, like it's lack of foresight that caused this. Nothing, absolutely nothing would have made it better, because no one wants to be Minister and the ones who might consider it aren't qualified, me included.

I don't think that was the point of the 20 minutes, but it's neither here nor there at this point. I don't think being Draco's friend is a complication, considering they are no longer together.

I didn't say Potter, I said Gryffindors.

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forgetme_nott
2021-05-08 05:55 pm UTC (link)

Nobody has to be bullied into the job if you do as I suggested. If the council formally has right to pass legislation when the Minister is absent then the wheels of progress keep moving unhindered. It should of been this way, nobody wants the baggage that comes with this position. Let it then be as literally a figurehead as is humanly possible. This way unless it's a direct communication with international parties, or if the council is in a deadlock, a Minister does little to nothing. Much more appeal in that.

I'm just standing here in the rain, offering you the best umbrella.

Regardless of what you think, given it was directed at me, I'm going to take that the way I feel about it. How anyone else feels not in my situation isnt relevant. I'm irritated to say the least. Also, if you think the situation with Potter and Draco is resolved that easily, you dont understand.

The rest of the Gryffindirs here didn't swoop in so I judge it solely on the one I dealt with. That one is unhinged.

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te_regulus
2021-05-08 06:19 pm UTC (link)

That option was brought up. I rejected it and will continue to reject it, because our problem is not passing legislature. I'm basically passing legislature as we speak. It's never been the job of the minister to write laws anyway. The wheels will continue to spin without a minister or a council as they have been. None of that will help us gain any standing in the international community and it's the ONLY reason we need a minister.

You're offering an umbrella when we're having a earthquake. You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist and not address the problem that exists, because it's easier.

No, I don't particularly care about feelings, yours, mine, Draco and/or Harry when bigger things are at stake. If all of you could just act like mature human beings then we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. I especially expect more from Slytherins since I'd expect every single one of us to ignore whatever feelings we have to concentrate on the important things.

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forgetme_nott
2021-05-08 06:39 pm UTC (link)

You know you want to offer this position to someone who never wanted a part in that world to begin with. Take the power formally away and give it to the council.

You seem to think our existance is some major player in the political game. We are at best refugees, a ragtag group of misfits from a country that has had decades of unrest and if anything are pests. We are not a player on the international scene. Maybe in time. We can't even control the castle we live in. How much trust would you give us, looking in from the other side? We cant leave. We cant protect ourselves from what brought us here. We cant control what is done to us. You cant expect to open your door and invite someone into your house if it's on fire. The problems with sustainability are far more significant to me than the international community.

We are. I am.
Focus doesn't negate the existance of other issues.

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te_regulus
2021-05-08 06:52 pm UTC (link)

And I think that's the fundamental difference in how we're approaching things and the things we're focusing on.

Survival will happen because we all have good instincts and it will happen even without council and minister. Creating at least the illusion of a country is necessary if we are ever to reopen the borders. That's not becoming a major player, but having them accept that we are a country. Also, picking someone who's not objectionable is vital, because everyone was so busy wondering if you'd leave (I didn't think you would) that no one is considering whether Harry and his two companions will leave.

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forgetme_nott
2021-05-08 07:12 pm UTC (link)

It boils down to this. You place the international community first and I see it as secondary. Someone not objectionable is preferable. I did say I would back your selection. Our priorities are different.

Would I leave over that argument? No.
That's a small matter.
Would I run off to live in the muggle world? No.
Would I consider other options? Possibly. But that's not on the table, so it doesn't much matter.

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	Re: Theo/Regulus te_regulus 2021-05-08 08:17 pm UTC (link)
	Exactly and that's why you're giving advice for something I considered and discarded, because to me seemed irrelevant. I had no doubt about your answers. I'm not sure I trust Harry to answer the same. But we'll see. I'll speak to Dumbledore and we'll go from there. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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