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Accio Goblet! mods ([info]gobletmods) wrote in [info]goblet_ooc,
@ 2012-11-04 06:54:00

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We have received some complaints about the large amount of students who are showing public support of Harry and/or suspecting of sabotage, and so we would like to remind everybody that, in canon, the vast majority of people - including his own best friend - were convinced that he had indeed put his name in the Goblet or, at least, had someone else trick it for him.

If Harry had thought that matters would improve once everyone got used to the idea of him being champion, the following day showed him how mistaken he was. He could no longer avoid the rest of the school once he was back at lessons — and it was clear that the rest of the school, just like the Gryffindors, thought Harry had entered himself for the tournament. Unlike the Gryffindors, however, they did not seem impressed.
The Hufflepuffs, who were usually on excellent terms with the Gryffindors, had turned remarkably cold toward the whole lot of them. One Herbology lesson was enough to demonstrate this. It was plain that the Hufflepuffs felt that Harry had stolen their champion’s glory; a feeling exacerbated, perhaps, by the fact that Hufflepuff House very rarely got any glory, and that Cedric was one of the few who had ever given them any, having beaten Gryffindor once at Quidditch. Ernie Macmillan and Justin Finch-Fletchley, with whom Harry normally got on very well, did not talk to him even though they were repotting Bouncing Bulbs at the same tray — though they did laugh rather unpleasantly when one of the Bouncing Bulbs wriggled free from Harry’s grip and smacked him hard in the face. Ron wasn’t talking to Harry either. Hermione sat between them, making very forced conversation, but though both answered her normally, they avoided making eye contact with each other. Harry thought even Professor Sprout seemed distant with him — but then, she was Head of Hufflepuff House.

The next few days were some of Harry’s worst at Hogwarts. The closest he had ever come to feeling like this had been during those months, in his second year, when a large part of the school had suspected him of attacking his fellow students. But Ron had been on his side then. He thought he could have coped with the rest of the school’s behavior if he could just have had Ron back as a friend, but he wasn’t going to try and persuade Ron to talk to him if Ron didn’t want to. Nevertheless, it was lonely with dislike pouring in on him from all sides.
He could understand the Hufflepuffs’ attitude, even if he didn’t like it; they had their own champion to support. He expected nothing less than vicious insults from the Slytherins — he was highly unpopular there and always had been, because he had helped Gryffindor beat them so often, both at Quidditch and in the Inter-House Championship. But he had hoped the Ravenclaws might have found it in their hearts to support him as much as Cedric. He was wrong, however. Most Ravenclaws seemed to think that he had been desperate to earn himself a bit more fame by tricking the goblet into accepting his name.


This wave of Harry hatred will get so big that, during the first Hogsmeade visit, almost everyone will be seen sporting "Potter stinks" badges - one of the few exceptions outside of Gryffindor house being Cho (and, we can assume, Cedric's close circle of friends, though only because he'll very likely ask them not to wear them). And, of course, let's not forget that almost all Gryffindors are so excited to have their own champion that none of them will listen to Harry when he tries to tell them he had nothing to do with it.

It's okay to have a few voices of reason, but they need to be a very small minority. Even the teachers are picking sides, people, so let's stick to canon here!


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[info]ravenclawlari
2012-11-04 09:31 am UTC (link)
I'm in an awkward position where I'm not sure that any of my Hogwarts kids will be wearing the badges - obviously Vicky, as a Gryffindor, will be annoyed about them. Leon as Head Boy won't want to be seen as being biased, and Larissa (by virtue of Stella) would be included in the small group of H6/R6 kiddos who support Cedric but are trying to do so positively, to make it about *him*. I feel bad now :/

Obviously I have two foreigners, but I can't remember if there is a reference in canon to guests wearing them? Plus it would be a bit weird if foreigners weighed in too much in favour of Hogwarts issues... but I'm entirely open to suggestions :)

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[info]littlepharaoh
2012-11-04 09:53 am UTC (link)
Yeah, it's tricky. In my case, Cormac has the Gryffindor bias (and the firm belief Harry did manage to put his name in the Goblet) and Samir might be trying to focus solely on supporting Cedric but will only avoid the badges if told not to wear one. Hamish on the other hand is not discarding the possibility of Harry having something to do with the Goblet debacle but is refusing to get involved in the discussion. He's like Switzerland in a kilt.

In my research for quotes I found absolutely no reference to any guest wearing them, nor do we know exactly how they feel about this whole situation. We know that Karkaroff, Madame Maxime and Fleur are all convinced of foul play, but Krum's reaction is as stoic as always and everyone else's opinion is a big mystery.

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[info]ravenclawlari
2012-11-04 10:26 am UTC (link)
With Hamish being so solidly neutral with regards to discussion, it's more likely that Larissa would also be, I think. Also, the phrase Switzerland in a kilt REALLY made me laugh. XD

In that sense, then, there is wiggle room for non-canon foreigners. Hmm. At the moment, I think I'm going to explore their feelings on that in context of the information I do have - Anzelm will probably take his lead from canon Viktor to a point. In game, they're friends, and the future politician in him will *try* and be diplomatic, but he's going to be annoyed that other students were denied the chance to enter when Hogwarts got two. So I think he'll probably get fairly annoyed in private, amongst the foreign students, unless Viktor says something. I think his grumpiness will mostly manifest itself in cheering himself hoarse for Viktor during the tasks.

As for Anais, she's not quite as annoyed on the same level, but she's very matter of fact in saying that Harry's name was in the Goblet, so it must have been put in - most likely by an older student - and people need to remember that. She won't be taking her lead from Fleur so much, but she'll be annoyed about the foreign schools being at a perceived disadvantage and will say so if asked directly. I think her response will be to get Beauxbatons students to unite against the silly occurrences at Hogwarts and to rise above, as a group.

:)

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[info]whitakers
2012-11-04 09:40 am UTC (link)
Well Ronnie has no problem letting her blatant bias against Harry show.

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[info]ravenclawlari
2012-11-04 09:50 am UTC (link)
We'd noticed ;)

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[info]whitakers
2012-11-04 12:11 pm UTC (link)
I was like 'Oh Ronnie your bias is showing.'

A question though, in canon is it the Slytherin's who make the enchanted badges?

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*Barney rushes to join in* - [info]accio_barney, 2012-11-04 05:34 pm UTC
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[info]daydreaming
2012-11-04 01:50 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for pointing that out! I mean, I thought it was a little unusual that non-Gryffindors were outright defending him, but I didn't think much of it, and I now realize that even though Leanne was annoyed by the rules being bent for Harry, she did state she believed he didn't do it. Basically, I figured she'd taken Kathryn's word for it because if even one Slytherin was willing to vouch for Harry being surprised, it had to be true. So in order to rectify that, I've just had her respond to Stella's theory that he was surprised because there were two champions, agreeing with said theory. I do want to be realistic and canon-compliant and still IC, but sometimes it's a hard balancing act, especially considering this is the first canon-compliant Trio era game I've ever been in, not counting one back in '06 that lasted a month.

Anyway, I think Leanne will wear a badge, though my other two won't. Audrey wants to wear one, but she thinks it's unprofessional as a prefect (though she's definitely not going to discourage others from wearing them). She's more anti-Potter than Leanne, but will be quieter about it. And Alexandra's annoyed that Hogwarts had two champions and the other schools only have one each, but she isn't exactly supporting Cedric either, so she won't be wearing a badge.

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[info]littlepharaoh
2012-11-04 02:11 pm UTC (link)
That totally works. And I understand, sometimes it's hard to keep things balanced - or, sometimes, to keep track of what's canon and what isn't, especially in a fandom such as this where the wiki is not the most reliable reference aid.

And I agree completely with your choices. I think it makes sense for the prefects to avoid wearing the badges (though exceptions would be completely understandable and IC). As for Alexandra, it's what I've been discussing with Heather above - they'll be understandably displeased, but their reaction is pretty much open. It makes sense that they won't wear the badges for the sole reason that their have their own champions to support, so while the "Potter stinks" feeling could be close to their hearts, supporting Cedric isn't.

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[info]caffiendishly
2012-11-04 03:21 pm UTC (link)
Thanks, oh Modly one! (Back in the day I worked at a summer camp and we referred to our boss as OGO with stood for 'oh great one', I am considering bringing that back for you ;) )

Let's see. All of my characters believe Harry put his own name in the Goblet or had someone do it for them. Ava reckons it was likely one of her fellow Gryffindor 7th years, but she will support Harry anyway because he's a Gryffindor and a little baby (plus she will see it as a type of rebellion against her grandparents who will HATE that he is getting so much press attention).

Stella, obviously, is very annoyed about the whole thing but trying to be calm for Ced's sake thanks to Larissa--I wouldn't be surprised if she gets wound right back up again at some point, however. She'll want a badge, but won't wear one because Cedric asked her not to.

Amelia will wear a badge. Why the hell wouldn't she? Potter is an annoying little twerp who cheated. Diggory might be a bright-eyed, idealistic Hufflepuff, but he's still the best option. Delacour annoys her for obvious Roger-related reasons and she's not going to support Krum so someone can accuse her of being a fangirl.

Elodie thinks that Hogwarts having two champions is deeply unfair, though she is currently trying to be diplomatic about it. Elena thinks Potter did it but probably wouldn't give two shits either way if Viktor weren't her pal. She wants a lur.

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[info]littlepharaoh
2012-11-04 03:35 pm UTC (link)
Aw, I don't think my ego could handle being called great. I'm still coping with being addressed as such by my favorite comedian, and that was years ago. ;) Modly One works just fine, though.

Ronnie suggested to Samir that they should make t-shirts to go with the banner they're planning, so Stella can wear that instead of the badge once Cedric asks his friends not to wear them. I hope she won't mind being seen with the Hufflepuff colours - it is for a good cause, after all!

And it amuses me highly that Durmstrang seems to have an official musical instrument now. XD

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[info]astellaidea
2012-11-04 04:25 pm UTC (link)
Stella definitely wants a t-shirt! And she has no qualms about rocking Hufflepuff colors. At this point I think she pretty much considers herself a Ravenpuff.

I mean, it looks fun and makes a loud noise. Of course Elena wants one. :P

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[info]accio_barney
2012-11-04 05:16 pm UTC (link)
Lee thinks Harry cheated and that it's awesome :-D

Mel... is willing to entertain the idea of other parties to foul play, but she still thinks it's most likely Harry did it. I'll try and make her a bit clearer about that as I keep replying to things, as she's being quite diplomatic so far (???!!!). She's not sure if she supports him or not, but she wouldn't wear a Potter stinks badge, because she does have some Gryffindor loyalty.

Barney thinks Harry probably did it. He wants to be fair about it and not say Harry DEFINITELY did it, but he thinks he did. The only circumstance I can imagine him wearing a badge that says anybody stinks though is to counteract an opposite trend, like if he gets really frustrated by the Gryffindors. I'll try and bring that out to keep the balance. Still, Cedric will intervene anyway and stop him wearing a badge even if he wanted to.

Yakov... doesn't much care. He is not really even supporting Viktor. He has the least school pride in the world apparently. He is just interested. Cheat, don't cheat... I am just here for the food.

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[info]littlepharaoh
2012-11-04 05:29 pm UTC (link)
Cormac raises an eyebrow at Mel being diplomatic.

I find it interesting that we have finally found something Samir and Barney react to differently, since Samir would wear the badge if not for Larissa and Stella putting into his head that it's better not to mention Harry at all when showing his support for Cedric. Oh, and he and Ronnie have been talking about pro-Cedric t-shirts, so that's something I'm sure Barney will want to wear.

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[info]accio_barney
2012-11-04 05:32 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I don't know what she's doing. I think it's because she has mixed feelings and she is used to knowing EXACTLY what she thinks.

Barney will totally wear a t-shirt :-)

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[info]caffiendishly
2012-11-04 09:23 pm UTC (link)
Because Yakov agrees with Elena:

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[info]seekingcho
2012-11-04 09:17 pm UTC (link)
One thing to consider is that for characters who support Cedric but aren't vehemently anti-Potter, it still makes a lot of sense to wear one of the badges. In canon we mostly get a focus on the Potter stinks side of the badges, since it's Malfoy and co. flaunting them, but I think it's likely that a lot of students would just keep theirs turned to the Support Cedric Diggory! side and not necessarily worry about the other side, at least until Cedric asks them not to wear them.

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[info]littlepharaoh
2012-11-04 09:23 pm UTC (link)
That's also true. The "Potter stinks" side would only be of interest to the more vehement anti-Potter side, like Draco and his cronies. Still, the "real Hogwarts champion" bit could still be interpreted as a criticism of Harry, which is something to take into consideration.

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[info]with_an_e
2012-11-06 05:33 am UTC (link)
Marietta would do what Cho asked her re: badges. jsyk. She thinks Potter did it b/c he gets away with everything, but she would probably stick with "Support Cedric Diggory" if Cho at all suggested it.

I need to get her in the fray. Haven't been feeling too well these past couple days, though.

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[info]seekingcho
2012-11-06 05:56 am UTC (link)
As per canon, Cho won't be wearing a badge (at least, not at the upcoming Hogsmeade weekend -- I suppose it's possible that she might wear one at other times, though I'm thinking she won't), but I don't think she would tell Marietta what to do.

Though it's possible that she might say something if she sees Marietta wearing the "POTTER STINKS" side... maybe we should thread that at some point! But, she's not as moody as she was at MD, so she's less likely to jump on Marietta over something little.

I hope you feel better soon! ♥

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[info]notsoslytherin
2012-11-05 10:53 am UTC (link)
Kathryn is odd I guess, I'm kind of thinking she should have hexed that a bit more private now though leaving it public brings interaction which is good. Kathryn mostly doesn't believe it cause he's 'light' and really she's trying to support the light secretly and all that. I guess she'd support Cedric though.

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[info]littlepharaoh
2012-11-05 11:09 am UTC (link)
Given that so many people were convinced that Harry was Heir of Slytherin only two years before, and that nobody at school beyond Dumbledore and the trio would know exactly what happened at the end of the three previous years (which will eventually lead to the "Harry is a liar" campaign in OotP), what would have given Kathryn the impression that Harry was "light"?

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[info]emptyprefect
2012-11-05 11:25 am UTC (link)
I still don't know whether Cass would actually wear one of the badges... and personally I think he's just more peeved that he didn't get picked and Potter somehow got his name in the goblet. :/

either way Cass is still suspicious of Harry, as he mentioned in his entry about eh last few years of drama and all...

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[info]notahamster
2012-11-05 11:32 am UTC (link)
I say make him wear a badge if only to relish in the look on Hamish's face. XD

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[info]samantha_
2012-11-06 12:00 am UTC (link)
Honestly, the only reason Samantha said she thought they should support everyone is because she's Head Girl and takes things very seriously. So ... that's where I was coming from.

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[info]notahamster
2012-11-06 09:13 am UTC (link)
It makes perfect sense for Samantha to act that way. She needs to be diplomatic, after all.

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