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Hemingway. (ernestoic) wrote in compass_network,
@ 2013-10-23 23:16:00

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Considering the nature of this island, and the "alternate" versions of people, the variance between worlds, the similarities and dissimilarities- the parallels and the alternatives- do you believe in fate? Destiny? Do you believe that we are "pre-ordained" to follow a certain path? Or do you think that we can change our future? That it is flexible, organic, open to change? Do we have free will, or is it an illusion?

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tenth_doc
2013-10-23 06:56 pm UTC (link)

Well, some points within time are 'fixed' and can not be changed, no matter what. But otherwise, unless you are going back to purposely change something, then how do you know what your future holds? And as long as it isn't a fixed point, then it goes where you wish.

Although, that said. Every little decision people make in life creates infinite parallel worlds. There's all sorts of realities around us—different dimensions. Billions of parallel universes all stacked up against each other. All stemming from silly little decisions like... like... turning left instead of right!

This whole island is a huge paradox, containing little paradoxes inside it and more being created by the day.

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ernestoic
2013-10-24 07:09 am UTC (link)

Some things are fixed? You mean natural disasters and such which are outwith our control?

I know my supposed future because of the door on this island. It leads to Florida, to a museum about- me. Most of it is very pleasing, but some- not so. But perhaps it is not fixed, if it's just about me.

Yes, this island is most paradoxical. My son has been two, and then twenty-something while still being two, and now eight, and yet only months have passed. It boggles the mind.

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tenth_doc
2013-10-24 07:41 am UTC (link)

Sort of. Not exactly. Not just natural. More.. hmm..

Fixed points are events and/or individuals who have great, importance and impact on the timeline that no one, not even me, can interfere with. I mean, they can be flexible and don't have to happen exactly the way the original timeline occured but meddling with one could result in reality falling apart. And even if someone did, most of the time, Time would often find a way to make the timeline continue with minimal changes. That's also how paradoxes can crop up and then things get messy.

It's either not fixed or it's a parallel version of yourself who made different choices. OR considering this place, more likely as you're now are living in a paradox, it probably is your life but it's still happening or has happened despite you ending up here.

Ah. Yes. Hence this place being a great big paradox. It messes with my time sense.

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ernestoic
2013-10-27 10:46 am UTC (link)

I don't know if I would go so far as to say that I have had great impact/importance on a timeline. However, I seem to have existed in the same "form" in many different universes.

The parallel versions of me all seem to have made identical choices. Well, island-choices aside.

This place- great big paradox scarcely begins to cover it.

Where did you learn all of this? Is it widely known in your time?

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tenth_doc
2013-10-27 11:39 am UTC (link)

There are many versions of people throughout the many, many, many different universes in existence. Even the smallest, lowest believed person could have an great impact or importance. Trust me. I know these things.

Well, the parallel versions that you've been aware of. They'll always be differences. Even the smallest kind. As I said before, even something as simple as turning a different way creates a parallel world where you turned the other way.

Great, big paradox, containing smaller paradoxes with a big bag of paradox thrown on top just for the fun of it.

Well... I haven't really got a time but within my race, yes. My race ~~were~~ are responsible for upholding time and space, you know, to prevent time from being subverted or abused... I'm a Timelord, it's part of what and who I am. I can physically feel, see and sense Time.

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	aphotic_auror 2013-10-23 07:06 pm UTC (link)
	Aw sweet....! I mean, is this about what we learned at the museum - about - well, the end of your life, so to speak? I mean, sorry, sweet.... I think that destiny is different for everyone... I mean, I think that there's something to be said for your being here ~~with me~~ rather than... in your old life... you know what i mean I trust...? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ernestoic 2013-10-24 07:11 am UTC (link)
	Yes, certainly. My life is already so different from that one. But it is more simple curiosity. I'm not afraid to die. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aphotic_auror 2013-10-24 11:31 am UTC (link)
	Aw sweet don't say that...! I mean, I don't know what I'd do if you weren't here for Patricia and me myself.... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ernestoic 2013-10-25 04:22 am UTC (link)
	Oh, I'm not planning on it. I just shouldn't fear it. If it's to be believed, I have a great deal to accomplish before such a time. If it ever comes. Perhaps it won't. As you say, my life is so different now. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	puddlejumppilot 2013-10-23 10:09 pm UTC (link)
	I can tell you from my experience there's all sorts of realities, and alternate universes, and they're all sorts of different. Fate is what you make of what you learn along the way. Or whatever the hell Rodney manages to manipulate with his code and programs and stuff. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ernestoic 2013-10-24 07:12 am UTC (link)
	I feel as though learning about your future automatically changes it. It's all a bit Macbeth. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	blacktwin 2013-10-24 02:29 am UTC (link)
	No, I don't believe in fate. I believe in choices. There is a second me here. We are the same age but he made different choices, has lived through different things. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ernestoic 2013-10-24 07:13 am UTC (link)
	Interesting, indeed. The prediction of the future is only one possibility out of millions. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	blacktwin 2013-10-24 02:19 pm UTC (link)
	I guess so. I still think there are always things that are likely to happen. All the people here, they are from different realities but some things are still the same. The World Wars still happened, you know. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ernestoic 2013-10-24 02:24 pm UTC (link)
	Yes. And I do seem to have existed in the same "form" in many different worlds, which is a headfuck in itself. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	blacktwin 2013-10-25 02:55 am UTC (link)
	Amen, man! (Reply to this) (Parent)

your_caretaker
2013-10-25 12:05 pm UTC (link)

I rather like the Doctor's explanation up there.... But yes, I do want to think that our fate is - predestined.... By G-d, if nothing or No-One else....! I mean, I think I've got this - well, cancer to make me think about my own life... As well as the life of the Man we murdered essentially, in the desert.... And buried there, as well... G-d, I'm still so sorry about that!

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	ernestoic 2013-10-27 10:32 am UTC (link)
	I'm sorry, but did you just say that you murdered somebody? Elaborate, please. You cannot leave that there. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	your_caretaker 2013-10-28 09:45 am UTC (link)
	Er... Yes... Well.... That's a - not so funny story behind there! Are you certain you want all the grisly details...? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ernestoic 2013-10-30 07:11 pm UTC (link)
	I was hardly expecting a "funny story", given the theme of it. Try me. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

your_caretaker
2013-10-30 07:31 pm UTC (link)

In-indeed, sir....!

Well, it happened rather like this:

Well, tell you what: how about I just... transcribe the whole of mine own journal entry about it, into this medium? By reading it aloud, to this computer: apparently you can do that with this amazing software that is installed upon our computers now....! I mean, it was enough to have a Microphone, much less voice-guided instructions upon a computer in MINE time.... But well... Just to get on with it... Well...

I once helped cover up a horrible accident, wherein a Man -- no doubt a good Man, though I didn't know him -- was run over in the desert by my friend, Tony Hunt. I thought all along that we should contact the Police, but... well, I had hard enough times getting Tony to just stop the car and check on what he ran over, whilst his headlights were off. I know that doesn't excuse my actions, however, and thus it is I have cancer now, because of how badly we treated the Man... How badly I treated him, in fact! There's no reason to try to cover up MY involvement in it, now...! And so... I had to make the team of teenagers who had agreed to bury the Man and cover up the whole matter, pay somehow, alongside me -- maybe even scare them into going to the Police...!

I don't know what I was doing at first; it was like a hand was guiding me, rather... A heavenly hand, or a hellish one, perhaps? I don't even know... All I know is that eventually the Caretaker became a part of me, as sure as this Cancer did -- inside my brain, in fact, just like the cancer.

At any rate, I began to see the whole picture: my role in it, and Tony's role, as well. I began to see what I had to do to get Tony to go to the police: a message, a secret message in fact... I mean, there's something to be said for secret messages, really; especially ones that go backwards and forwards both, in code both of them. The forward messages read things that "the Caretaker" expected them to do in order to "absolve their sins" -- really, just committing even more, grievous sins, that they might eventually feel their guilt deeply enough to go to the Police... Whereas the backwards version of the same code, when read from all the different messages strung together, read "Tony, go to the police please or I will die. Yours, Neil Hurley."

Of course, it took Tony until the last possible moment to manage the backwards version of the code; I was about to kill his girlfriend Alison Parker, another friend of ours, who had been involved in the "accident" in fact, when he finally figured it out, and came looking for me...

But really, that's the end of the story, and of course, though I've already gone into the beginning: there's always a middle of the story, isn't there? At any rate, here it is: the middle of the story...

I was using cash (what little I had, in fact, from my part-time job that I had held until I was too sick to manage that and school) to make classified advertisements, with the instructions for sins the Caretaker wanted them to commit - for me to commit, as well, rather -- and then of course, I punished those who refused to complete their small sinful "tasks" that I might convince them to complete the next task put to them.

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