"You sound like someone else I know." He'd tried to explain this to Superman multiple times, but neither of them had changed their mind on the subject. Yes, there was a time and place for charm, for things done in the light. Those were the domain of Superman and of Batman's other identity, the one that was a mask just as much as the literal one he wore now. But there were other things that needed fear, needed violence to deal with them. Those were the reason Batman existed at all.