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[info]squeaky
12/20/12 10:14 pm
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We are very sorry for the current issues that are cropping up each night. The issue is we are getting overwhelmed with spam posts and don't have the funds to add the hardware needed to deal with it. We are doing what we can but it is a very difficult situation.

Please bear with us.
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  • I second the few bucks for a code idea.

    [info]controls_lady
    12/21/12 06:07 pm (UTC)
    I second the few bucks for a code idea. I am fairly quiet, and don't have many online friends who would or could send me a code.

    There needs to be an obvious disclaimer that payment for a code would get you a free level for an account, so it would be a one-time thing, but it would also be non-refundable for any reason. Maybe $5-$10 per code?

    • Re: I second the few bucks for a code idea.

      [info]foxfirefey
      12/21/12 06:23 pm (UTC)
      It wouldn't even need to be that high--any payment at all would stop the spammers from making new accounts, in general.

      • Re: I second the few bucks for a code idea.

        [info]controls_lady
        12/21/12 08:16 pm (UTC)
        But if Squeaky goes with PayPal, which is what I'm assuming will be the case, isn't there a tipping point around the $5 which would actually make the amount worth the while? Doesn't PayPal take out a certain percentage or amount on Squeaky's end, for their use and expenses? I have no idea how much they take out anymore, nor have I used other systems to know how they work.

        I wouldn't charge any more than $5. However, it needs to be an amount that Squeaky isn't losing money.

        Theresa

        • Re: I second the few bucks for a code idea.

          [info]foxfirefey
          12/21/12 08:26 pm (UTC)
          Yes, the fee is $.30 + 2.9%. So, if the codes were $1, he would end up with around $.67 per transaction after the fees. That doesn't mean they should be only a dollar, because there's other costs to consider, like his time, or the chance of people trying to do a chargeback, or maybe using them to generate revenue for servers--but he wouldn't lose money to PayPal fees if the codes were $1.

    • [info]winged
      12/21/12 06:41 pm (UTC)
      There's also always the fact that in the past this system has allowed for the purchase of one month paid accounts at any time; why pay for an invite code when you can get a paid account for the same price?

      • Because as I'm understanding it....

        [info]controls_lady
        12/21/12 08:07 pm (UTC)
        Because as I'm understanding it, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the invite code is to get in, and the paid account is if you're already in.

        I have a couple of free accounts, and for various reasons haven't gone with a paid one(s) yet. Personally I'd want a free account at first to feel my way around, and then go from there. If I want to stay, fine, I've spent $5 to get acquainted. I spend around that getting my weekly latte. If I don't want to stay, then IJ still has my $5 for equipment and upgrades, and maybe a box of aspirin for Squeaky, who has to deal with all the craziness :).

        For me, I would rather start at the bottom (free account) and go up, than on the second rung (paid account) and go down (to free account). But that's just me.

        Theresa

      • Compromise - could it work where the $5 for the code could be applied to a month's paid account?

        [info]controls_lady
        12/21/12 08:23 pm (UTC)
        Compromise - could it work where the $5 for the code could be applied to a month's paid account?

        I know Dreamwidth has a points system where this can happen. Have heard about it, but not explored.

        Maybe put a time limit on it, for 2 months you can choose to upgrade to a paid account for one month for free, if you've paid for a code to get in. Doesn't mean you have to upgrade to stay, you can downsize and/or keep a free account, but this way Squeaky only has to keep track for 2 months, if he doesn't want to set up a points system.

        Theresa

    • Re: I second the few bucks for a code idea.

      [info]aviationgin
      12/22/12 12:06 am (UTC)
      or lower the cost of a one month paid account to $3 and that could be how you pay for the code and have it sent to your email. when you register it's a paid account. or $1-2 for a code alone.

      i just would love to see account creation controlled for even a few days or weeks so the spam stops, maybe they'll give up and leave the site alone
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