Youka Nitta
Meta Discussion: Breaking Up Is Hard To Do 
20th-Oct-2008 02:25 pm
Let's face it: Iwaki/Katou is the sacred cow relationship of the entire Nitta universe. Their love is what sucked us in and kept us coming, even when Nitta-sensei began creating other couples and even when she imploded and stopped creating anything (for a while).

But what happens if Iwaki/Katou, Tomohiro/Yoshinaga, Magira/Carlo, etc. were to fall apart, for whatever reason? How would you feel if your favourite Nittaverse ships were broken? Here's some more specific questions for you to think about, although you don't have to answer all or any of them to participate in the discussion!:

How do you feel about ships being broken in general?
Are your feelings different for the Nittaverse?
Who's in your favourite Nitta ship?
Could you stand for that ship to fall apart?
      How? (Ex: Another party? The natural end to passion? Death?)
      Is any one reason more acceptable to you than another?
      (Ex: Yes, 1 could die & the other move on, but not just a break-up)
Which of the two would be able to move on the easiest? Why?
Which other characters do you see your faves ending up with if they part? Why?

If you can think of anything else, go ahead and address it! Also, FYI, if you haven't caught up on any of Nitta-sensei's other works, you have until the end of the year. Starting in the new year, we're going to dig into her other works and see what each other thinks about them. If that's all right with you guys....?

love, lore
Comments 
20th-Oct-2008 06:58 pm - Crisis / Falls apart / Has nervous breakdown / Collapses into a heap sobbing...
My reaction to the thought of Iwaki/Katou breaking up??? Crisis/ Has nervous breakdown / Collapses into a heap sobbing... or any other image of complete emtional devastation that you can imagine.
I can't even bear to think about too much!!!! Vicarious emotional investment in fictitious characters? Nah - not me!

Must resume When a Man Loves a Man in time for the new year! Look forward to it - fun!
21st-Oct-2008 04:03 am
Nooo, I can't bear to think of Iwaki and Katou breaking up! (Guess that answers who my favorite ship is!) Well, I could tolerate them breaking up temporarily after a big fight, but only if they got back together again (after bucketloads of angst, of course).

Actually, I would rather one of them die than have them break up. I could accept one of them eventually finding comfort and happiness with someone else, because the separation would be something beyond their control. I guess it's similar to the way that I prefer Lupin and Snape to both be dead in the HP universe rather than have Lupin living happily ever after with Tonks. (Yeah, I'm a vindictive Snupin shipper; what can I say?)

Which of the two would be able to move on the easiest? Why?

Hmm...I think Iwaki is the more emotionally fragile of the two, in spite of--or maybe because of--his stoic demeanor. I'm not sure that he could go on if Katou died. Katou would be devasted, and it would take him a long time to get over Iwaki's loss, but I think eventually he would realize that Iwaki would want him to happy, so he couldn't mope around for the rest of his life.

As for who he'd end up with...I'm not sure. Bronze Ribbons wrote a lovely, bittersweet story where he ended up with Yoshizumi after Iwaki died, but I only know Yoshizumi from fanfic. (I'm just about to start reading Book 9, so I should be seeing him for myself soon.) Or maybe Kaneko, who seems to take care of Katou so well? Though I don't really get a romantic vibe between those two, to be honest. It would really be interesting if Katou and Iwaki's brother turned to each other in their mutual loss and fell in love, but then I'd feel guilty about breaking up Big Brother's family. (It's embarrassing, but his given name has escaped me at the moment, and I'm too lazy to go look it up.)

With Carlo and Magira...I could see Magira taking off, not because he doesn't love Carlo, but because he doesn't know how to be in a committed relationship and it scares him. Though it would really be too sad if they didn't get back together. Previously, I might have said that it would be interesting to see either of them paired with Shu Ti Fan, but now thanks to Snapelike's "Where the Wild Lilies Grow," I can't picture him with anyone but Shouji!
21st-Oct-2008 09:04 am
I can't bear the thought of Katou & Iwaki breaking up either (or Lupin & Snape for that matter)!

I think Iwaki is the more emotionally fragile of the two [...] I'm not sure that he could go on if Katou died. Katou would be devasted, and it would take him a long time to get over Iwaki's loss, but I think eventually he would realize that Iwaki would want him to happy, so he couldn't mope around for the rest of his life. -- Yes, that's how I see them also. Katou would eventually bounce back - but Iwaki would shatter.
6th-Nov-2008 05:00 pm
How do you feel about ships being broken in general? - Really, I hate it. Cheating/adultery, break-ups, misunderstandings, third-party interference (rap); it all breaks my heart. I can handle character death "moving on" stories, but only if the new person is equally as perfect as the dead character. It takes a lot to win me over.

Are your feelings different for the Nittaverse? - Not really. I think Nitta has this way of getting us so attached to her characters that we hate to see them unhappy. I want them all to be with the person they love. Sometimes, I even want it for the foolish side characters who love our main men, and I will desperately search for another side character for them to love. Heh.

Who's in your favourite Nitta ship? In canon, Iwaki/Katou. In fan fic...I am on board for more Carlo/Magira!

Could you stand for that ship to fall apart? -- I'm going to answer for Carlo/Magira first and say that I could take a momentary break-up for them, and even them sleeping with other people, but only because Magira was such a man-whore before he found Carlo. Their love was never "pristine", so I can take interludes much better than with Iwaki/Katou. I know Katou slept around, but we never saw it on-screen, and we know Iwaki had never been with a man, so I see that couple as "pure" from the start and would HATE anything coming between them to that might sully their union!

love, lore
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