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Tweak says, "The things I do for love..."

volksjager (volksjager) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-28 08:06:00

Current music:	Black mayonaise " what do you mean wrong hole ?"
Entry tags:	char: lois lane, char: star sapphire/carol ferris, char: superman/clark kent, creator: curt swan, publisher: dc comics, title: superman

Lois gets busted !

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	hearthemvoices 2009-07-28 01:06 pm UTC (link)
	Super-ventriloquism? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Yep, "Super-Ventriloquism" jlroberson 2009-07-28 01:13 pm UTC (link)
	He used it many times. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: Yep, "Super-Ventriloquism"

icon_uk
2009-07-28 02:04 pm UTC (link)

To the point it was more of a running gag than anything else.

In Morrison's Brotherhood of Dada, there was a character called "The Quiz", a Japanese woman with every power you've never thought of; as you think of a power she loses it, but until you think of it, she has it. So when fighting her people spend most of their time thinking of pwoers, so they can deny her their use. Just about the one power EVERYONE who faced her thought of was "super-ventriloquism" :)

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	silverzeo 2009-07-28 01:39 pm UTC (link)
	Why didn't they give Carol that uniform in the new book? I mean, we would taken her more seriously if she didn't look like her breast would slip out and flash everyone... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-07-28 01:46 pm UTC (link)
	or... Imagine what the comic code would have said if DC tried to pass off the 2009 version of the Star Saphire outfit back then..... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlbarnett 2009-07-28 05:48 pm UTC (link)
	It looks cute on that one, Miri, but over all it's pretty lousy (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlroberson 2009-07-29 04:29 am UTC (link)
	Because it's dated. Personally I think it makes her look like a stewardess. I never cared for it, except when Alan Davis drew it. And besides, it's pink. Not to say the new one is better. But people complaining about the impossibility of that costume keep forgetting that it's nothing but light. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	domino_blue 2009-07-28 01:43 pm UTC (link)
	Please tell me I'm not the only one seeing bondage overtones? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-07-28 01:47 pm UTC (link)
	"Super shrimpjob" atleasst. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	alschroeder 2009-07-28 03:04 pm UTC (link)
	Quick! This is a job for the Golden Age Wonder Woman! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	halloweenjack 2009-07-28 03:24 pm UTC (link)
	Are you kidding? If Silver Age Superman had married his Lois, he'd have gotten her a Star Sapphire outfit for their wedding night. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	fungo_squiggly 2009-07-28 03:19 pm UTC (link)
	The old "I can never hit a girl!" attitude seems so quaint now in comics. I mean, really, what's Superman's plan then? "Urk... must allow her to continue beating the crap out of me... ugh! Until Wonder Woman gets here! Oof! Only women may hit other women. Argh! That's the superhero way!" (Reply to this) (Thread)

	cricharddavies 2009-07-28 03:55 pm UTC (link)
	Or, possibly, "I'm going to have to come up with a way to defeat her without engaging in violence; meanwhile, I'll let her beat invulnerable me up rather than using those powers on the far more frangible humans around us." (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	btravage.livejournal.com 2009-07-28 04:55 pm UTC (link)
	More like "Everybody knows that I'm a staunch defender of the Establishment, what kind of subversive thoughts would I plant in the public's mind if they saw me violating the patronizing Code of Chivalry so integral to the perpetuation of the Patriarchy." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	tavella 2009-07-28 06:48 pm UTC (link)
	One of the things I always liked about Captain America was that he never hesitated to hit a villain because they were female. Not in an assholish way, he didn't like beating them up, but as a sort of respect. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	thanekos 2009-07-28 11:47 pm UTC (link)
	Robin had to deal with that once, with a female thug. His response? " Gonna hold out my fist, not my fault if you run into it, look where you're going, huh? " (Reply to this) (Parent)

	queenrikki 2009-07-28 07:50 pm UTC (link)
	I know this is Pre-COIE, but it does nothing to quell my belief that a great deal of roleplay goes on between Lois and Clark. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-07-28 11:34 pm UTC (link)
	Exactly. I bet clark was alwauy finding costumes and such in strange places, you'd think he might learn to stop asking (Reply to this) (Parent)

	bariman1987 2009-07-29 07:12 am UTC (link)
	Clark and Lois have canonically gone to parties as Batman and Robin, I have no doubts they have a closet full of costumes for kinky roleplaying sex. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	superfan1 2009-07-30 01:05 am UTC (link)
	Hal and ollie costumes also yes? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	bariman1987 2009-07-31 08:20 am UTC (link)
	Who plays whom? I bet Clark would get a kick out of playing an asshat like Ollie for a little while, though the beard would itch. (Reply to this) (Parent)

mari_redstar
2009-07-28 08:04 pm UTC (link)

I love pretty much everything about that first splash page catching us up on Star Sapphire. Carol's a levelheaded woman executive! (You know, a woman executive. Who is a woman. Of the female variety. You have to specify these things. Maybe someone wouldn't be able to tell just from looking.) Her little facepalming pose! Her bow tie and high-heeled oxfords! That gorgeous spacy retro villain outfit! The whole thing feels like it would fit really nicely into the Magical Girl Hal Jordan universe.

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	jlroberson 2009-07-29 04:32 am UTC (link)
	Well, this was 1973. There were very, very few female executives back then. Hey, let's look back at the 50s and laugh because they called Jackie Robinson a "Negro ballplayer"! What fun! How stupid they were. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

mari_redstar
2009-07-29 05:32 am UTC (link)

Sounds like fun!

Seriously, yeah, anything written in the past is going to have bits that look weird to us today just because, well, it's today now. I'm sure I've said stuff that, if somebody comes across it fifty years from now, they'll think is hilariously silly and dated. Like how it looks silly to me now to carefully specify that Carol is a woman executive while she's, you know, standing right there, and you could perfectly well tell that she was a woman by, oh, looking. It wasn't stupid of the writers, just... 1970s of them.

(If I'm lucky enough to be alive fifty years or so from now, I look forward to hanging out on whatever's replaced the Internet and finding the sites where kids born in 2040 are giggling over antique comics scans from way back in ancient times at the turn of the millennium. It'll be hilarious. I'll have to get a cane just so I can threaten to wave it at them.)

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	bariman1987 2009-07-29 07:14 am UTC (link)
	I'll have to get a cane just so I can threaten to wave it at them Make it a sword-cane. It'll be far more threatening when you wave it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mari_redstar 2009-07-30 01:40 am UTC (link)
	Really, I think I want one of those indestructible umbrellas John Steed had. Not only is it a perfectly good walking stick and useful for waving threateningly at people, it keeps the rain off! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	bariman1987 2009-07-29 07:13 am UTC (link)
	Consider how long Lois was refered to as a "girl reporter." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	psychop_rex 2009-07-29 08:25 am UTC (link)
	Taken out of context, that shot of Superman in the 'I forbid you to open your mouth' panel looks alarmingly like he's had too much fiber today, if you catch my meaning. (Reply to this)