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blake_reitz (blake_reitz) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-05 14:39:00

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char: armaggon, char: shredder/oroku saki, char: splinter, group: teenage mutant ninja turtles, publisher: archie, title: teenage mutant ninja turtles

TMNT: The Forever War - Never quite the end?
"Have you ever wondered why “The Forever War” 5-issue story arc was never printed in Archie Comics’ Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Adventures? Let me tell you a story…"

Shredder's in the future with his arsenal. The future turtles are in possession of not one, but two working time-machines.

Potential covers:

Turtles with guns? Black suit Raph? That chick with the head-thing and the energy blasts (we'll get to her at some later date.

Hated enemies Scumbug and Wyrm. Is that...the Shredder State of ~~liberty~~ Tyranny?

Ninjara? I'm not so sure.

I always preferred Splinter as a mutant human. It made Oroku Saki's vendetta much more personal.

The first six pages of The Forever War saga, penciled and lettered.

From S. Murphy:

"Have you ever wondered why “The Forever War” 5-issue story arc was never printed in Archie Comics’ Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Adventures?

Let me tell you a story…

Mirage Studios. Northampton, Massachusetts. Early 1995.

I had been working behind the scenes on “the Archie book” since issue #5 in two generally un-credited capacities: as Mirage’s in-house editor on the series (which fell under my job title of “Editor of Licensed Publications”) and as a developer of story lines, the latter a role I first shared with Ryan Brown (through issue #30 or so) and then later with Chris Allan (when I wasn’t doing it solo).

I had just finished work on “The Moon Eyes Saga” story arc (TMNTA #67-70), wherein Raphael travels to Alaska seeking the love of his life, Ninjara, only to romantically lose her to another. It was heavy stuff for a kids’ book – at least by the standards of the day – and I was once again at odds with the two bigwigs at Archie Comics: editor in chief Victor Gorelick and publisher Michael Silberkleit, both of whom thought we were “going too far” in terms of adult themes. Both men, as well as their distribution guy, Fred Mauser, had been on my ass about this several times before, most heatedly when we put out the first “future Turtles” story arc, wherein Chris and I developed the character of Hitler’s brain (but that’s another story).

Victor and Michael wanted to know where the book was going with issue 71, and when I told them we would be revisiting the future (the Greenhouse Earth future, another notion which freaked them out) for a 5-issue story arc featuring the return of the Shredder - a totalitarian Shredder (not the buffoon of the cartoon) – they popped their toupees. And said they wanted me off the book.

To be continued..."

BONUS: A Newsarama interview with Stephen Murphy from last year on the return of Archie's TMNT. Although I guess they're really not Archie's now.

All scans (and some text) come from tOkKa's COMIXX CHOP set on Flicker, which is chock full of some rare turtle artwork. Go there to see plenty more scans, including more art and commentary on The Forever War. Check it out.

I couldn't help but post a few more images from the turtle treasure trove.

You know, it's not that the turtles have been transported to a fantasy kingdom that bothers me so much as it Leo's flowing barbarian hair. That's just off.

Below, an unused cover and the less issue-accurate cover they went with.

Armaggon time! An inked cover, a piece by Peter Laird, and a sweet pin-up.

Why...is a roboticized Donald Duck spewing oil?

I did a little more digging into that crossover movie, which brought up with this thread with this link.

This is going to be weird. And awesome? Man, I don't even know, but I can't wait.

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	shadwing 2009-07-06 02:36 pm UTC (link)
	Man I remember when this was posted on the original Scans Daily! Thank you for reposting it. I already have the 'Future Tense' TPB on order and I can't wait for Forever War to FINALLY hit the stands. SW (who so needs to load up some TMNT Icons) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	lbd_nytetrayn 2009-07-07 02:37 am UTC (link)
	Hah, that was me. XD Archie of the day stinks, I loved that book. SO much. And here they are, reprinting it... and doing The Forever War in August? --LBD "Nytetrayn" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	shadwing 2009-07-07 05:08 am UTC (link)
	I know...I put the original post in my memories and now it links to NOTHING sad face Lord I HOPE it comes out in August....it'll give me something to look forward to in my comic shipment besides Gail's WW and the Dresden Files Comics (Reply to this) (Parent)

	stretchdude 2009-07-06 08:28 pm UTC (link)
	Good lord, the Conservation Corps got a mini-series? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	lbd_nytetrayn 2009-07-07 02:37 am UTC (link)
	Only knew of the TMNT crossover, but never read it. Never knew of this, either. I wonder how it was... --LBD "Nytetrayn" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stretchdude 2009-07-07 03:21 am UTC (link)
	I have the crossover. In a nutshell, it would make Captain Planet roll his eyes. (Reply to this) (Parent)

lbd_nytetrayn
2009-07-07 07:40 am UTC (link)

Just noticed for the first time, and barely, thanks to the way these appear faintly on my screen... but does Raph have a sword in that black and white art?

Great... now I need to see if I can find why that is the next time I go through my comics, whenever that will be.

And I don't mean "swords," like when Future Raph carries the fallen Leo's, but a singular sword. Something from the Moon Eyes Trilogy I forgot, perhaps?

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

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	blake_reitz 2009-07-07 04:05 pm UTC (link)
	Huh. I also never noticed. I remember that Leo had a third sword for a while (in what? the more recent cartoon maybe?), and it reminds me a little of that, but otherwise I've got nothing. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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