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jlroberson (jlroberson) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-09 03:58:00

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Entry tags:	creator: alan moore, creator: kevin o'neill

Alan Moore/Kevin O'Neill: "What Ho, Gods of the Abyss!"
My favorite bit from the Black Dossier. Jeeves. Wooster. Cthulhu. Hijinx ensue.

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	icon_uk 2009-06-09 06:15 am UTC (link)
	Probably my favourite part of the DOssier (apart from one Gerry Anderson joke), the only problem I had with it was that it wrecked my plans for a fanfic based around the notion of "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen's Gentlemen" composed of the likes of Jeeves, Alfred, Jarvis, Parker from Thunderbirds, Lugg (from Campion) and others! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-06-09 07:38 am UTC (link)
	You did notice the bit that should explain a lot of the Chamberlain government. "Rt. Hon." Bertram Wooster. Words I imagine would send chills of despair through Britons everywhere. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

icon_uk
2009-06-09 07:51 am UTC (link)

IIRC Bertie was distantly in line for a baroncy anyway, so the House of Lords was more or less inevitable.

I also think that he'd have been quite a decent cove in that situation, he certainly didn't approve of unfairness, and had no time for bullies so would have regarded that nasty Mr Hitler in the same light.

Plus, considering the shower we currently have in post, at least we know Bertie was never particularly dishonest. And with Jeeves at his side, it'll be like "Yes, Minister" with Hacker and a slightly more supportive Sir Humphrey.

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jlroberson
2009-06-09 09:28 am UTC (link)

>>I also think that he'd have been quite a decent cove in that situation, he certainly didn't approve of unfairness, and had no time for bullies so would have regarded that nasty Mr Hitler in the same light.

Unlike, allegedly, Mr. Wodehouse himself...

"I say, Jeeves! This German fellow who wants to be master of the world!"
"Yes, sir. A former corporal, I believe."
"Well! I may be just a little old-fashioned but it seems to me you should at least make lieutenant before being master of the world."
"Indeed, sir. Your biscuits?"

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icon_uk
2009-06-09 09:39 am UTC (link)

No longer a generally held view. Wodehouse is usually credited with being naive and foolish rather than anything approaching fascistic or even just treasonous.

The Nazi's interned him after all, and if one accepts he was conned into making the broadcasts he did for the Germans (as seems likely), then he'd have little love to lose for Herr Hitler. And one note that he added the incredibly Oswald Moseley-esque Roderick Spode and his Black Shorts to the cast in 1938.

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jlroberson
2009-06-09 07:15 pm UTC (link)

Conceded. Especially with a line like this:

The trouble with you, Spode, is that just because you have succeeded in inducing a handful of half-wits to disfigure the London scene by going about in black shorts, you think you're someone. You hear them shouting "Heil, Spode!" and you imagine it is the Voice of the People. That is where you make your bloomer. What the Voice of the People is saying is: "Look at that frightful ass Spode swanking about in footer bags! Did you ever in your puff see such a perfect perisher?"
— P. G. Wodehouse (Bertie Wooster speaking to Spode), in The Code of the Woosters (1938)

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jlroberson
2009-06-10 02:58 am UTC (link)

Although, as I speak American, I guess, I have no idea of the meaning of "puff" or "perisher."

I would add that something about this is reminiscent of this later, though much meaner, speech:

The thing I hate about you, Rountree, is the way you give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy to Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers. For the rest of your frigid life."

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	darklorelei 2009-06-09 10:49 am UTC (link)
	Hah! Brilliant! (Reply to this) (Parent)

rab62
2009-06-09 05:46 pm UTC (link)

"..the only problem I had with it was that it wrecked my plans for a fanfic..."

Really, if Alan Moore let "someone else had this idea before" stop him, we wouldn't have very much Alan Moore, now would we? ;-)

Chronologically, I can't see how that team could work when decades separate Jeeves and Lugg from Pennyworth and Jarvis, and then decades more before we reach Parker's era? (Unless perhaps you used an East End ancestor of Parker...) But I'd like to see it!

Agreed on "What Ho" and the pre-Fireball XL-5 stuff being the best parts of the Dossier.

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icon_uk
2009-06-09 06:23 pm UTC (link)

Because my League, like Moores', covers more than one time period. They would always be in the background of Moore's assorted Leagues doing the "tidying up", all the unglamorous bits after the hoo-hah is over, as well as some missions of their own. You think Sir Percy Blakeney did his own laundry? Good Lord, he'd have been known as "The Grubby Pimpernel" if THAT were the case.

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	20thcenturyvole 2009-06-09 06:32 am UTC (link)
	Oh, this is just wonderful. Between this and A Study In Emerald, I'm wondering if there's a single early-20th-century literary classic that can't be improved by one mad comic writer and a healthy dose of Lovecraft. I want more Jeeves vs. Elder Things, dammit! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-06-09 07:32 am UTC (link)
	Actually...in America, legally, anyone can write and even publish one. If someone does, I'll draw it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ex_stig213 2009-06-09 08:48 am UTC (link)
	"Mr. Hyde & Mr. Yog-Sothoth" "More Than 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, or, The Inspiration" "Alice's Adventures Within The Blackened Heart Of The Earth From Which There Is No Possible Return" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-06-09 09:17 am UTC (link)
	"Deliverance In Dunwich." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-06-09 09:41 am UTC (link)
	Have you read "Shadows over Baker Street", a collection (including A Study in Emerald) of Sherlockian Lovecraft adventures (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-06-09 07:53 am UTC (link)
	"A Study in Emerald" is magnificent. Did you read/hear any of the BBC Sherlockian pastiches they did a while back? Kim Newman's A Scandal in Belgravia" is particularly wonderful (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Thanks for the links! seawolf10 2009-06-09 03:05 pm UTC (link)
	Out of curiosity, what did you think was the best of the "Shadows" collection BESIDES "A Study in Emerald?" For me, it's the one starring Irene Adler, although the case with cultists inducing Deep One-esque transformations ran a close second. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	brandiweed.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 08:53 am UTC (link)
	Peter H. Cannon did an anthology of three Lovecraft/Wooster crossover stories called Scream For Jeeves, but the low print run and subsequent high demand means copies are horrifically expensive (they start at $76.80 on Amazon.com and go up-- for a 64 page book). (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mechanicaljewel 2009-06-09 09:09 am UTC (link)
	That won't do. I don't have four library cards for nothing, let me see if I can get my hands on one and pirate it for grate justice! (Aaannd-- found and held!) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	dorksidefiker 2009-06-09 09:24 am UTC (link)
	seeths envy This is one of the rare cases where my library has failed me (the other being getting most of the Wild Cards series). (Reply to this) (Parent)

	seawolf10 2009-06-09 02:56 pm UTC (link)
	Be a dear and send a copy my way once you've scanned it, won't you? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mechanicaljewel 2009-06-09 03:13 pm UTC (link)
	Sure thing! I'm having it sent to the library closest to me, so once it gets there (probably by this weekend) I'll go pick it up and make with the piracy. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Replied to wrong post. Sorry. seawolf10 2009-06-09 03:12 pm UTC (link)
	Now that I'm done with my impression of upper-crust British twits... Just send me a PM on LJ (I have the same username there) once you've scanned it, please, and I'll get my email address to you. Or if you're hosting the file somewhere, just send a link. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Replied to wrong post. Sorry. mechanicaljewel 2009-06-09 03:15 pm UTC (link)
	Not a problem. PDF work for you, or do you prefer LIT? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Replied to wrong post. Sorry. seawolf10 2009-06-09 10:28 pm UTC (link)
	I prefer PDF, thanks. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Replied to wrong post. Sorry. (Anonymous) 2010-01-20 12:22 am UTC (link)
	I'm an lj user who was linked this post? Did you ever get the above-mentioned Wodehouse/Lovecraft pastiche scanned? I'd love a copy at comradefernsky AT gmail DOT com ~ animagiblender on lj (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Replied to wrong post. Sorry. jlroberson 2010-01-20 04:36 am UTC (link)
	Actually, it's right here: http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/447926.html (Reply to this) (Parent)

	brandiweed.livejournal.com 2009-06-09 10:14 pm UTC (link)
	Erm, as much as I would like to see this too, you may want to be a little more circumspect about your plans-- InsaneJournal doesn't seem quite as aggressive about protecting its posterior as LJ was, but I'd hate to see this place get shaken up again. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mechanicaljewel 2009-06-09 08:55 am UTC (link)
	I've always wished that there was more of a market for Wodehouse pastiches the way there is for Sherlockian ones. A lot of the J&W fanfic is quite good, if predominantly slash. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-06-09 09:42 am UTC (link)
	That would be very hard to make work, since Wodehouse was more or less writing pastiches already. (Reply to this) (Parent)