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	hyperactivator 2009-10-01 07:36 pm UTC (link)
	Can October be Horror month? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-01 07:42 pm UTC (link)
	It really should be. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	sherkahn 2009-10-01 07:57 pm UTC (link)
	Seconded! Strongly! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	thandrak 2009-10-01 08:25 pm UTC (link)
	And here I was going to ask for Hot Congressional Action Month. (In honor of Representative Grayson.) ... there's got to be some political horror in EC. Or maybe not. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-01 08:27 pm UTC (link)
	Would the various battles Vlad has pertaining to who gets to be KING OF THE VAMPIRES!! count as political? Cos I have vs. Nimrod, vs. Torgo.. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thandrak 2009-10-01 08:31 pm UTC (link)
	You know, I've never seen the Torgo stories. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-01 08:33 pm UTC (link)
	I'm warning you now.. there are no goat-knees, backwards or forwards. :3. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thandrak 2009-10-02 02:21 am UTC (link)
	The Master... the master needs... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlroberson 2009-10-02 07:56 am UTC (link)
	Only one of those, I think, but it's awesome. With a humbled Dracula who's gained perspective. AND STILL KICKS HIS ASS. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	the_jeff 2009-10-01 08:28 pm UTC (link)
	Sounds good to me! Mod question, if any happen to see this. If I post comic pencil that I've inked over for practice, is that a legitimate post, or do I need published work as well? By published I mean as it was published of course. I figure this kind of straddles the line of fan art, but since I didn't do the original artwork I wanted to clarify... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	volksjager 2009-10-02 12:15 am UTC (link)
	At the very least another Horror week for Halloween,I'm pulling out some really good stuff from the long boxes. Spread the word and let's have some really strong work to post :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ashtoreth 2009-10-01 08:35 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, I remember Taj's hatred. Nice to see where it came from. I guess. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-01 08:38 pm UTC (link)
	Painful, isn't it? Did you know Taj from later issues of ToD, or..? I want to read all appearances of everyone from this series, any issues you can rec would be appreciated! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

ashtoreth 2009-10-02 12:45 am UTC (link)

I don't remember..when I was a child, this was one of the series my LCS used to let me pull out of the mylar bags and read for hours til I finally bought the couple comics I could afford and went home. I remember Taj as being one of the "I hate vampires, especially Dracula, so much I WOULD DIE TRYING TO KILL THEM ALL" characters. Somewhere, I was given a pointer to Hannibal King, and I read everything with him in it..til Nighthawks. :( (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-10-01 09:24 pm UTC (link)
	Gene Colan + Tom Palmer + Dracula = EFFING AWESOME! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-01 11:21 pm UTC (link)
	Gene Colan's art is like a dream. A sometimes-unfortunately-racist dream, alas. But when he's in the safe zone, he is so on. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	stig 2009-10-01 10:18 pm UTC (link)
	THE FACE NOT THE FACE (Reply to this) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-01 11:17 pm UTC (link)
	His beautiful moustache! Noo! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mysteryfan 2009-10-01 10:56 pm UTC (link)
	This is fantastic! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-01 11:15 pm UTC (link)
	Isn't it just? The entire run of Tomb of Dracula is just so good. And without someone's comment on a Captain Britain & MI:3 post here, I'd never have known to order in the Essential trades. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-10-02 07:55 am UTC (link)
	It was what Sim wanted CEREBUS to be, really. A long series that's basically one story. And so rich, so much beyond just horror. The peak work of both Wolfman and Colan. I grew up reading it myself, so I'm glad to hear you discovered it and that people still DO discover it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-02 12:46 pm UTC (link)
	:] I'm glad too! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	volksjager 2009-10-02 12:17 am UTC (link)
	The cover from that Dracula story is awesome. It was the debut of Lilith's new costume. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-02 12:38 am UTC (link)
	The 'kinky batgirl' one? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-02 01:04 am UTC (link)
	yes,yes. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-02 01:15 am UTC (link)
	It's a pretty great costume. A stick-on bat, tiny pants with a silk scarf, a cloak and pirate-boots. How would you even think of that? And how did the seventies manage to do so much empowered skimpiness, anyway? Y'all force me back three decades, Marvel. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-02 01:26 am UTC (link)
	The Marvel Premire of the 70's was an "adult magazine" sold next to Penthouse and the like. It had nudity,sex,violence ect. Anything went. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlroberson 2009-10-02 07:52 am UTC (link)
	Probably one of my two or three favorite comics series ever. I especially love that story with Lilith; the art is SWEET. Colan rules. (Reply to this)

psychop_rex 2009-10-02 09:38 am UTC (link)

I'm definitely interested in seeing the continuation of the 'fashion magazine owner uses Dracula as her instrument of revenge' story. I can see that being very juicy stuff. And that second part, with the Indian vampire kid, is very nicely-done and poignant and all, but there's a detail about it that annoys me - the crucifixes. Why are there crucifixes on the walls? The guy himself says that they're symbols of a religion that he doesn't believe in - so why are they there? The point has been made in Dracula's X-Men crossover (which really should be posted here, by the way, if it hasn't already) that it's not the symbol itself that has the power, it's the belief behind it. Wolverine, an atheist, makes the symbol of the cross with his claws - Dracula scoffs and KO's him. Nightcrawler, a religious man, does the same thing, and Dracula goes 'ARRRGGHH!' and recoils. Therefore, if this man is a Hindu, which is clearly implied, he ought to have Hindu symbols on his walls, not Christian ones. If belief repels vampires, then a few statues of Shiva and Ganesha should do just the same thing here. (Reply to this) (Thread)

greenmask 2009-10-02 12:44 pm UTC (link)

That made me pause too. Here are some fanwankings I have made of it! Firstly, I'm pretty sure that this issue was published before Nightcrawler's debut, so the belief-of-the-holder would be a retcon anyhow. Quincy Harker doesn't give the impression of being a devout man, but religious symbols work for him when fighting Dracula, so. Maybe Wolverine just did it wrong? :/ Secondly, Taj would likely have seen the crucifix work against Dracula in his travels with Rachel Van Helsing and gang; in such a delicate case as his own son I'm sure he would want to try everything he could. Thirdly, his wife may have put it there in desperation, having been alone with the vampire child for so long (what a dick move, Taj). Fourth, they might live in an area where Christian iconography isn't uncommon, they may know Christians.. the boy may have grown up with a mild accidental belief in Jesus. I definitely agree there should be Hindu symbols in evidence, but I don't think it's necessary to remove Christian ones. Dracula is so into cursing God that it makes sense to me that protecting against him/his influence in this way makes sense. Particularly actual Christian stuff (proper crucifix with dead Jesus on cross), rather than a makeshift finger-cross. I'd argue that it may have been the crappiness of the crossed fingers that make Dracula laugh at Wolverine, and Kurt's extreme faith which made such a rubbish cross actually work. I'll look out the rest of the Fashion Revenge story, then! Glad you enjoyed it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

psychop_rex 2009-10-02 09:56 pm UTC (link)

I would argue that Quincy Harker DID believe very strongly in one thing - his crusade against Dracula. Lifelong obsessions can have just as strong a hold on the brain as a strong belief in religion - if he believed, very strongly, not in the intrinsic power of the cross as a holy symbol, but that 'they say crosses hurt vampires, and I REALLY REALLY want to hurt you, Dracula, so when I hold it up, this things gonna HURT you, or I'll know the reason why.' I suppose you're right - I don't know anything about Taj's background. Still, it would be kickASS to run across, say, a Jewish vampire hunter who used the Star of David, or a Wiccan one who used the Antlers of Cernunnos, or something. (What would be REALLY cool would be if there were a sort of international headquarters for vampire hunters that was patterned all over with every conceivable religious symbol ever created worldwide, dating back to caveman days. No WAY any vampire is gettin' in there!) Also, just to clarify - Wolvie didn't cross his fingers, he crossed his CLAWS. He went 'SNIKT', then crossed 'em in a crucifix-shape. Dracula sneered at this and knocked him out, with the claws still extended, then Kurt took hold of his friend's arms and manipulated them so that the claws made a cross again. It was considerably more badass than a little finger-cross. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-02 09:59 pm UTC (link)
	Actually later in the series a Star of David is used to repel Dracula by a Jewish man! Good point about Quincy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-02 10:18 pm UTC (link)
	Awesome! Any chance of posting it? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-02 10:19 pm UTC (link)
	Absolutely. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-02 10:27 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	cricharddavies 2009-10-03 01:17 am UTC (link)
	Which, apparently, Jewish readers and commentators have found ridiculous, given that they don't generally invest that particular symbol with the same religious devotion that most branches of the Christian faith regard the cross. Had he used the Torah, that might have been better. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	yaseen101 2009-10-02 10:17 am UTC (link)
	Thanks for posting. Dracula is my favorite fictional monster so it's great to see him written well outside of Stoker's novel. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-02 12:48 pm UTC (link)
	No probs! The whole run is just so good that it's a joy to share it. ..And so refreshing to see a vampire who is a powerful lordly unbending arsehole, not a sparkly whiny submissive twit. x_x (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	greenmask 2009-10-02 03:12 pm UTC (link)
	Hee. ^-^ Dracula is in Hellsing? Why did no-one tell me this before?? :O (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

yaseen101 2009-10-02 03:39 pm UTC (link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsv5tg2p-z8&feature=related Are you watching the OVA series or the manga? Yeah, they pretty much confirm it in the first OVA . It's no big spoiler really, with the name Alucard being Dracula spelled backwards and 'Hellsing' being the name of Abraham Van Hellsing, one of the protagonists in Dracula, plus Alucard has demonstrated all the abilities of Dracula throughout the series. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-02 03:52 pm UTC (link)
	Neither! But I will be starting, I think. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	yaseen101 2009-10-02 04:04 pm UTC (link)
	I recommend not watching the god-awful anime and instead watch the OVA's and the manga. The OVA might have a problem with the pacing since they have to omit some scenes due to time constraints, the manga has a much more linear pacing. The art is horrible in the first few chapters but it's phenomenal in the second half of the series. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-10-02 04:20 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	yaseen101 2009-10-02 05:39 pm UTC (link)
	You are welcome. (Reply to this) (Parent)

yaseen101 2009-10-02 03:13 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, I haven't finished Stoker's novel but he is already my favorite character. TV Tropes described him best, he is a 'very old , very tired overload, very evil overload who wants to take over the world or die trying', that's villain motivation 101 there. Then you are going to love this: http://becoolbeme.deviantart.com/art/Hellsing-VS-Twilight-126891421 http://raventhepenguinninja.deviantart.com/art/Edward-vs-Alucard-115537560 That's Dracula in the first one (and in my userpic) by the way, all 3 are from the same show, he is just showing off his shape shifting. :) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

greenmask 2009-10-02 03:18 pm UTC (link)

I haven't finished it either actually. My favourite character was Lucy from the start.. Dracula's interesting and impressive but I'm too sold on the Marvel version and he's not quite drawn the same in the novel. The focus is just a little different. By the way? Never watch the film Bram Stoker's Dracula, if you haven't yet. As a fan of the book I felt insulted, and as a feminist I was incensed. Also, Ted "Theodore" Logan will never be Jonathan Harker. :/ (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	yaseen101 2009-10-02 03:27 pm UTC (link)
	I have heard about the movie and read the Wiki summary, I almost exploded from righteous anger. Aesthetically speaking, I prefer Dracula with long hair rather than the short one Marvel gave him. As for his attitude, why not? I like him creeping people out just for the heck of it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

greenmask 2009-10-02 03:37 pm UTC (link)

Righteous anger hi-five! Oh, I like the creeping-for-the-heck too. I guess the difference between Stoker's novel and ToD is the perspective of the storyteller. Marvel's version is about Dracula, Stoker's is about the effects Dracula has on other people and society. Which is awesome, don't get me wrong, but in terms of character favouritism it makes it harder for me to go with novel-version Vlad. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	yaseen101 2009-10-02 03:44 pm UTC (link)
	Well, we pretty much started out from different ends didn't we? I started out from Hellsing and then to the novel and you started with ToD and then to the novel. It helped me with the fact that Dracula's appearance in Hellsing was closer to the novel sans the beard and mono-brow along with the freaky-looking hands. (Reply to this) (Parent)