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trelas ([info]trelas) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-26 17:49:00

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Entry tags:char: batman/bruce wayne, char: question/renee montoya, creator: devin grayson, creator: roger robinson, publisher: dc comics, title: gotham knights

Moments from Gotham
In a few posts here at the comm there has been some discussion of classism in comic books, which of course means that some commenters have taken aim at Batman, or Bruce Wayne, once more. It isn't the first time I've discussion or such commentary on how Batman could do so much more for Gotham with his money instead of playing with gadgets, although I'm always amused how those comments always single Batman out. The reason, however, why I'm always a bit puzzled by that criticism is that it isn't as if it hasn't been dealt with in the Bat-books themselves, with it having been established several times that Bruce Wayne is the biggest philanthropist in Gotham, if not even in the whole world, and the Wayne Foundation is a significant benefactor in several charity project. It's not a secret, it's not a loose, it's canon. It's been dealt with several times, even if Morrison did drop that really weird dialogue in his storyline.

The discussion did however remind me of an awesome Batman story published in Gotham Knights 32, written by Devin Grayson with art from Roger Robinson. It takes place directly Bruce Wayne: Murderer/Fugitive, with Bruce Wayne having finally returned to Gotham after his innocence has been proven and with Batman having made peace with who he is. It was an interesting storyline and important one leading from NML, where Bruce Wayne failed to save Gotham, despite trying everything. It is a beatiful issue, with each page showing a moment in his life and the impact both Bruce Wayne and Batman have on Gotham, with both of them being as important. So I thought I would post some pages from the story, with it proving extremely difficult to choose which pages to include. I decided to go with scenes that show the long-term impact Bruce has on the city and the lives of different people there, although the story had beautiful moments concerning his relationship with almost all of the central Bat-Clan and awesome Bat-action.
















The ending is also quite beautiful, beyond these pages of course, but posting limits, as everyone understands. Still, the great thing about this story was that each page stood alone in showing the importance of Batman to Gotham in several ways. Hope you enjoyed the scans as much as I did.



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[info]icon_uk
2009-09-26 03:35 pm UTC (link)
Whilst I may have issues with much of Devin Grayson's writing, this sort of thing she really does do very well indeed, and this is indeed a great issue.

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[info]ladymirth
2009-09-26 04:58 pm UTC (link)
Someone should mark this comment for posterity. For once, Icon_uk approves of something Devin Grayson wrote! XD

(I'm just funnin' with ya =p )

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(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-09-26 07:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]freddylloyd, 2009-09-28 08:03 pm UTC

[info]jmacq1
2009-09-26 03:44 pm UTC (link)
It's nice to see the actual differences Wayne/Batman makes as opposed to simply hearing about them. Too often Gotham looks like just as much or more of a cesspool than it was before Batman got started, but we're not usually seeing that from the perspective of the common people of Gotham. Obviously the city can't be quite as bad as it sometimes seems or people simply wouldn't live there. It'd end up like Detroit.

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(Anonymous)
2009-09-26 03:49 pm UTC (link)
Is this the same issue with the couple who celebrate the anniversary of Batman saving them from a gaybashing? That was my favorite part of the issue.

-kay

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[info]trelas
2009-09-26 03:55 pm UTC (link)
It's the same issue. I wrestled with which scene in to include, that or the cop or the cop scene. I guess it's obvious which one I went with.

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(no subject) - [info]shadowpsykie, 2009-09-26 08:40 pm UTC

[info]mysteryfan
2009-09-26 03:54 pm UTC (link)
Excellent!

Thank you for posting!

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[info]thandrak
2009-09-26 04:01 pm UTC (link)
There is something very interesting in the first page. Bruce Wayne is using Batman's ability to know 'everything' about someone, to just tip the scales in a business meeting. The guy should be pissed that Bruce is blowing him off... but Bruce manages to somehow reverse his opinion on it in a second.

Imagine what would happen if Bruce went after Lex seriously. Businessman to businessman.

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[info]ladymirth
2009-09-26 04:53 pm UTC (link)
THIS. I have been saying it to everyone who will listen. Imagine the amount of good Bruce could do as a global corporate and political figure instead of a shadowy vigilante?

He'd wipe the floor with Lex.

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(no subject) - [info]mysteryfan, 2009-09-26 05:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thandrak, 2009-09-26 05:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistermagpie, 2009-09-26 05:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mysteryfan, 2009-09-26 05:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thandrak, 2009-09-26 08:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistermagpie, 2009-09-26 08:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlbarnett, 2009-09-26 08:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thandrak, 2009-09-26 09:42 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]thandrak, 2009-09-26 10:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistermagpie, 2009-09-27 07:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mysteryfan, 2009-09-26 05:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistermagpie, 2009-09-26 06:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mysteryfan, 2009-09-26 08:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]oddpuppets, 2009-09-26 06:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thandrak, 2009-09-26 08:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mysteryfan, 2009-09-26 08:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thandrak, 2009-09-26 05:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mysteryfan, 2009-09-26 05:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thandrak, 2009-09-26 08:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mysteryfan, 2009-09-26 08:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zordboy, 2009-09-27 04:44 am UTC
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[info]kusonaga
2009-09-26 04:04 pm UTC (link)
Ah yes, one of my favourite issues ever. Thanks for posting.

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[info]sistermagpie
2009-09-26 04:21 pm UTC (link)
*cheers for this*

I especially love the little moment where he gets the kid's name slightly wrong. To someone listening it might come across as slightly spacey, but we know he's got so much going on and he's really only human all this time. The vulnerability suggested there just brings it home--he's not perfect, but he's always trying.

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[info]hybrid2
2009-09-26 05:37 pm UTC (link)
How many CEO actualy know interns names.or employes

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(no subject) - [info]autolychus2, 2009-09-27 01:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladymirth, 2009-09-27 02:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]autolychus2, 2009-09-27 02:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blake_reitz, 2009-09-26 06:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-09-26 06:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistermagpie, 2009-09-26 06:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blake_reitz, 2009-09-26 06:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jlbarnett, 2009-09-26 09:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladymirth, 2009-09-27 02:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-09-28 11:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mysteryfan, 2009-09-27 11:56 pm UTC

[info]taggerung301
2009-09-26 04:24 pm UTC (link)
this is fantastic

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I remember this issue
(Anonymous)
2009-09-26 04:27 pm UTC (link)
...clearly. I also thought it was a great issue.
Thanks for posting! Now I need to go find it again.

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[info]thebigapricot
2009-09-26 04:54 pm UTC (link)
This is a great issue. It's a wonderful portrait of Bruce/Batman as a hard worker who helps everyday people.

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[info]ladymirth
2009-09-26 04:55 pm UTC (link)
Ah. Devin Grayson at her best! Her Gotham Knights run is one of my favourites!

I love this issue. *le sigh*

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[info]stig
2009-09-26 05:09 pm UTC (link)
Lucky bastard, working for Bruce Wayne...why can't I ever get a job with a company that'll pay my tuition?

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(no subject) - [info]ozlelila, 2009-09-26 05:47 pm UTC

[info]hybrid2
2009-09-26 05:33 pm UTC (link)
I think I need that book.
I've seen a lot of pags before but it's something you can read over and over.

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(no subject) - [info]aaron_bourque, 2009-09-26 06:32 pm UTC

[info]aaron_bourque
2009-09-26 06:41 pm UTC (link)
Every bit of this issue was pitch perfect. Well, the art had a couple of issues, but nothing major, nothing to detract from the impact. And the stuff not shown here, the daily group dinners (with the old folks), the bulletproof vests for Bludhaven, the NML Memorial statue dedication (complete with a couple of guys dismissive of him, since he was a "DZ"), checking in on Lucius' family, the couple he saved from a gay-bashing, chess with Two-Face, his complete interrogation of the guy on the bridge (without asking a single question), checking with Oracle to see if her dad was okay (this being shortly after his shooting and retirement), and he still has time to beat up poor people.

Batman.

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(no subject) - [info]runespoor7, 2009-09-26 08:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-09-28 11:09 pm UTC

[info]damar148
2009-09-26 08:08 pm UTC (link)
The three burglars seem to be the opposite of the usual criminals who despite all contrary evidence, think three against one gives them an decisive advantage against the Batman.

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(no subject) - [info]neuhallidae, 2009-09-26 09:37 pm UTC

[info]shadowpsykie
2009-09-26 08:47 pm UTC (link)
wasn't there an episode of TAS similar to this?

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(no subject) - [info]icon_uk, 2009-09-26 11:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_bourque, 2009-09-27 01:53 am UTC

[info]scottyquick
2009-09-26 10:28 pm UTC (link)
I could never make a list of my favorite singles issues, but if I did, no way in hell would Gotham Knights #32 not be in the top 5.

My favorite thing was the part where Batman asked Oracle how she was doing and Babs all ":) good". Although the intern part was close!

This was such a fantastic issue - LOVED Grayson on Gotham Knights. LOVE LOVE LOVE.

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[info]icon_uk
2009-09-26 11:41 pm UTC (link)
As a "Day in the life of Batman/Bruce Wayne", I think it's only matched by a couple of stories, the first one of which to spring to mind is this one

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[info]janegray
2009-09-27 09:25 am UTC (link)
This was such a great story, I loved it :D

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[info]jmacq1
2009-09-28 11:10 am UTC (link)
The thing is, Bruce does do work outside of Gotham, and presumably on an international scale. You don't get to be a multi-billionaire confining your business operations to just one city. Wayne Enterprises has a presence all over the world, and presumably makes all feasible efforts to carry over the progressive mentality of their "parent office" in Gotham.

Meanwhile, Batman occasionally steps out with the Justice League and plays a key role in saving the entire world.

Elected office wouldn't suit Bruce, and in all truth would hamper him because he'd have to answer to legislators, cabinets, etc... It's not just a matter of "do what you want, when you want."

Bruce does compete with Lex on a national scale, but the main issue is that Lex is (supposedly) nearly/just as smart, and actually has more money.

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[info]chipsnopotatoes
2009-09-30 12:01 am UTC (link)
very nice. i do like devin grayson.

just noticed though. this is not the same multigon from btas i guess

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