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Witchvox article on dominionism

LJ-SEC: (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY [info]sunfell)

Looks like word is starting to percolate into the farther flung corners of Webdom. Here's a little article I found on The Witches' Voice:

Scared Yet?

Excellent article with good background.

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Cognitive Milestones

LJ-SEC: (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY [info]thornewilder)

First. A multitutde of thanks, to everyone here. Thanks to the thoughtful dialog, thanks to the research, thanks to the links and thanks for the caring.

This one is for dogemperor.
I bugged my husband all weekend to discuss the types of developmental anomolies he sees exhibited in "suspected dominionist" families. (ie the mom who comes into the exam room with her dogeared bible along with 15,000 red bookmarks....)His standard caveats - as any scientist would have - regarding legitimate research controls apply here. We are talking observations only.

In the Cognitive Development Sequence
0-18 months: sensorineural (making sense of the universe purely through sensation)
rather interesting this is the time chosen to start caning, ie "let's teach our children the universe is inately hostile..."

18 months to 5/6 yrs: preoperational thinking (this includes precausal and magical) as the beginning of cause & effect however the percieved cause & effect are frequently inaccurate)Example:Rain is when angels cry.

7+ : Concrete Operational; definite beginning of cause & effect that includes the beginning of recognizing and organizing facts. (memorizing lists, tables, collecting items, sorting...)

13/14 and up: Formal Operational (developing the ability to compare and contrast, project into the future with relative degrees of accuracy)

In the families he suspects of strong dominionist associations he sees a potentially significant penchant for children to stay in the realm of preoperational thinking long beyond the developmental milestones would have suggested they ought to move on. Many times if they are pressed or presented with a challenge to thier thinking ("This idea can't be because Jesus wouldn't want it to be so"), they then revert to sensorineural behavior...ie rocking, staring into space or such.

This suggests a potential effect of dominionist households may be the arrested development of cognitive skills, or inordinate dwelling at a developmental level you ought to have graduated from. Formal operational thought is discouraged.

Does this result in adults without the sustainded ability for consistent mature formal operational thought? (highly manipulatable)

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Are we closer to the target?

LJ-SEC: (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY [info]lihan161051)

I'm noticing an increase in the usage of the term "dominionism" in a number of places. It's occurred to me that while I was seeing potential enemies in just about every Christian denomination, it made the effort both to find out more about this movement and speak out against what was wrong with it very frustrating, because it was hidden so successfully behind Christianity. I knew what I was looking for wasn't Christian at all, but didn't know what to call it.

When I started thinking about that Scripture verse that says "you shall have dominion.." and started thinking of it as "dominion theology" (about the same time the term came into official use, but my usage was somewhat spontaneously independent) it became much easier to focus on more likely targets and differentiate them from the innocent Christians behind whom they were hiding.

I think this has begun to happen at more mainstream levels now; it seems more and more people even in conservative Christian circles are starting to wake up and realize that there is something dark and sinister in our midst that has nothing to do with the Christianity most of us grew up with. Does it seem to anyone else here that that's what's happening, that this battle is getting somewhat easier because we have a better description of who we're actually fighting against, and can use that to single them out from the innocent bystanders? Are we being taken more seriously because there's a lot less collateral damage going up against dominionists than there was going up against "conservative Christians"? Personally, I think it's definitely a concept that sells better and describes the problems much more accurately, and as a result, I think more people are listening now. The Witchvox link from the last post shows that word is getting out at least to sympathetic audiences .. are we reaching the more conservative echelons yet?

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Been Lurking

LJ-SEC: (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY [info]inkedgeekfreak)

Hey, I joined a while ago and have just recently jumped in the fray with comments.

I am not sure if pointing this site out is on topic, but I found it interesting, scroll to the bottom and look at the note to ministers. Jesus would be ashamed.

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Thomas Jefferson quotes -- sort of an aside.

LJ-SEC: (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY [info]dulcinbradbury)

Often, dominionists/the religious right refer to how our country was founded on the principles of Christianity.

I decided to take a look at some quotes of Thomas Jefferson:

"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."

"I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology."

"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God."

"Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."

Would that there were more who would adhere to such views.

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Today's Interesting Factoid.

LJ-SEC: (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY [info]kalibex)

Current Chick-fil-A kids meals contain 'Adventures in Oddessey' CDs (put out by Focus on the Family).

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