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Matt Cavanaugh ([info]palehorses) wrote in [info]we_float,
@ 2010-06-24 18:56:00

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Current mood: thoughtful
Current music:"Underneath Days" :: Bob Mould
Entry tags:character: matt cavanaugh, character: maxxie delacourt

You never want to see the things I could become
Who: Matt Cavanaugh and Maxxie Delacourt
When: Wednesday, June 23
Where: Anhalt Building
What: Discussing what both have figured out about how to restructure the group and make it be something everyone wants to be in.
Status: Closed, Incomplete

It probably looked like Matt simply had his eyes closed. At least, it probably looked like that on first glance, but the two fingertips trailing into the coffee in the cup by his hand likely gave the impression he was actually asleep, but it wasn't like the coffee was hot, or something. He still hadn't entirely decided to do anything about that, because he was trying to figure out the answer to the first labour.

Because really, how did you make an everlasting brownie?

He'd considered and discarded LSD (flashbacks counted as everlasting, right?), genetic resequencing so that Ganesh simply thought he had always just eaten a brownie (too expensive), a really large brownie (ridiculous), and a knitted brownie. The last was the most promising, given that Ganesh had never said it had to be edible.

Not that Matt could knit, but that was a problem for later.

He heard Maxxie's distinctive footsteps - tap, silence, tap tap tap, silence - where the silences were her blinking, and dropped his chair back down to all four feet, managing to get coffee in his eye as he brushed his hair back.

It was sort of a greeting when he looked at her, his eyes unfocused, and said something that most closely approximated to "Blargh."



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[info]maxblinks
2010-06-25 02:37 am UTC (link)
"Hello to you, too," Maxxie replied, pulling up her own chair and settling into it, at least for the moment. "Are we testing out a secret code language, so we can shout to each other and not have the bad guys know what our plan is?"

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[info]palehorses
2010-06-25 02:42 am UTC (link)
"I have coffee in my fucking eye," Matt pointed out. It might've been his own fault, but that didn't mean he couldn't be grouchy about it anyway. "It hurts. I think the maker is on drugs, and I think it's putting them into the coffee. Coffee shouldn't feel like this. Trust me, I would know if it should."

He brightened, though, as he realised all of what she'd said, and by the time he looked at her, he was smiling hugely. "A secret language would be awesome. Can we get on that first? I think we should."

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[info]maxblinks
2010-06-25 02:59 am UTC (link)
"You've had coffee in your eyes before. On purpose?" So yes, she was taking him literally, but how else would he know what coffee should feel like in his eye? "The coffee maker's fine. Cheap, but fine."

She had to laugh at his reaction. "I still say we just need ear buds. Those ones that read what you're saying even if you only whisper. Otherwise we're going to be in the middle of a fight and someone's going to yell out fibberdoodle and someone else is going to yell back is that teleport in, punch, punch or is it punch, punch, then teleport? And it'll just get messy."

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[info]palehorses
2010-06-25 03:19 am UTC (link)
"The Konami code lives on," Matt said, lighting a cigarette. "And for your information, I have never put coffee in my eye on purpose. It was entirely accidental every single time it happened. I just happen to be accident-prone." He looked slightly smug as he finished the sentence, as if that was something to be proud of.

"Anyway," he said more seriously, "I feel like it'd be better to, you know, not get caught in a fucking situation that we're improvising totally on the fly. I still think that some kind of practice is a good idea, just to give people a feeling for how we're all likely to react to something, you know?"

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[info]maxblinks
2010-06-25 02:44 pm UTC (link)
"The whoosiewhatsis code?" Maxxie shook her head, letting that go, since it really probably wasn't important to the conversation. And the coffee, too, although... "Accident prone and a gun carrier really don't seem like a very good combination," she had to point out.

"I'm in total agreement on the practice, and I've scoped out some rooms we can put together for a practice space but we need to take a couple days and knock out a wall and put some things up. So that means we need a work time, and get people to do that, then start putting up a schedule for people to work together in twos and threes at first?" she suggested. "We should also make a list of who fits into what kinds of places. Like, Alec's not going out at all because he's not physical, and I don't even know what to do with someone like JT."

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[info]palehorses
2010-06-26 03:19 am UTC (link)
He rolled his eyes at her first comment. "Getting coffee in my eye isn't quite in the same league as blowing away an entire mall's worth of rent-a-Santas, you realise. I mean, fuck, accident prone with a gun means you're fucking waving it around or some shit, and I don't do that. You really like ruining all my fucking jokes, or you haven't got a sense of humour, and I haven't figured out which one yet."

Then he drank half the cup of coffee, considering the rest of what Maxxie'd said. "Honestly? I think it's fucking ridiculous to assume that only one person can do a job or that we're never going to be, you know, like fucking attacked here. If it's me, we all do practice, regardless of whether someone thinks they need it or not. And frankly, that attitude kind of assumes that none of us know anything about computers either, but this is practically the 22nd century. I grew up hacking, for fuck's sake." He shrugged and tapped the cigarette. "Not to just pick on Alec, by the way, but the point's still valid. And anyway, if he somehow doesn't train at all, then what the fuck do we do with him if it comes down to an attack here? So, no. All or fucking nothing, princess, not pick and choose."

He finished the coffee and added "I don't know what the fuck to do about JT either. I'm pretty fucking sure he's getting ready to fucking bolt, he doesn't exactly seem real fucking committed to this." Not that most of the house did either, but JT wasn't really present. "And if he doesn't, he trains too. Fuck, you can teach him martial arts, if nothing else. I mean, seriously, the people who're here - I see this as the biggest problem - need to be the ones who fucking want to be here, you know? Otherwise, why am I risking my ass protecting them?"

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[info]maxblinks
2010-06-27 12:08 am UTC (link)
Maxxie had spent so much of her early formative years in an environment that focused so close in on work, that she honestly forgot that not everything was seriously said. "I have a sense of humor. I just forget to use it if I'm talking about serious things." She shrugged, because it just was the way things were.

"Fine, so I train everyone on tae kwon do so they at least have a clue how to defend themselves, and maybe you ought to teach us all how to fire a weapon, in case we ever get ourselves into a tight spot with one of those." Maxxie had a notebook and she started her notes with that, not worrying about neatness at this point; she could fix it later.

"But not everything we do is going to be about heroing, is it? So some people might validly want to be here, and be involved, but won't want to go out and actively kick butt. So there ought to be different training levels. There's the stuff the active butt-kicking folks need to do, like you and me, then there's the not getting their butt kicked that some folks need to learn, like JT and Alec."

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[info]palehorses
2010-06-27 02:07 am UTC (link)
"Not real happy with the thought of people who aren't committed being here." It wasn't a criticism; it was ruminative more than anything. "It feels like - you know, we're not all accomplices, princess, you know? Like, they can get away clean because they're not committed, but the rest of us can't." He looked abruptly angry and added, in a harsher tone, "And I fucking love that I think there's something illegal about what we're doing. Fuck, man."

He stabbed out the cigarette with sharp motions and lit another. "I still take your point," he added more calmly. "But I really do think that training everything we can train for is the way to go, honestly. I mean, you never know when it really will be coming from inside the house."

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[info]maxblinks
2010-06-27 02:47 am UTC (link)
"Oh, I think Alec's committed to being here, even if he is a complete ass about it," Maxxie said. "Just not to being out and physical about it. There are others I'm not sure about at all, though." She blinked at that sudden change, the anger not matching the words, and she wasn't sure which way to follow that. "You love that this is illegal? Because... they're making us illegal? Because you have some urge to fuck over the government in general? Because you like being a criminal?"

Because if that one was joking, she wasn't getting it.

"I'm agreeing with you, and I'll be offering self-defense as much as I can, and next Sunday I think is a good day for knocking down walls. You'll be there, right?" She looked at him. "Because training is one thing, but we still need the space to do it in. Also, do we have a really good list yet of what's available to us, talent-wise?"

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[info]palehorses
2010-06-27 03:44 am UTC (link)
"No. Just saying that this is what the situation's apparently brought me to." He managed grim humour at that. "You know, like, what we're trying to do - whatever Katherine wanted, we've got to make this ours - is wrong. It's fucking not, but Jesus, sometimes I feel like it is anyway, you know?" HIs fingers worried at a chip in the tabletop. "Weird feeling, I suppose. And no, I didn't like being a criminal the last time, it's not exactly in my plans for the future."

Her questions brought him away from the thought of whether this could be illegal, and he looked up. "Course I'll be there, princess, with a fucking sledgehammer in my hands." A grin at that. "And no. I wasn't sure if you knew - I spent a while not really paying fucking attention, you know? Too busy fucking sulking. But I can email around and ask people. Or leave a note on the fridge. Everyone eats."

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[info]maxblinks
2010-06-27 02:48 pm UTC (link)
"I know some of them." Maxxie flipped pages in her notebook. "There's you and me. And Tom stops time, which you knew, and Zad heals, which sounds dangerous as all hell. Alec's a nat, and Del..." she hesitated, because they'd never spoken actually specifically, but the part where he looked blind but didn't act it seemed, well... she shrugged. "I have no clue about JT, and Ganesh does his programming thing, and insane guy walks through walls. Did I forget anyone?"

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[info]palehorses
2010-06-27 03:14 pm UTC (link)
"Not that I fucking know," Matt said, but it wasn't hostile. "JT's a nat, by the way, fill that checkbox in. I think Ganesh is too, in terms of powers. I mean, skills are one fucking thing, but powers are another and hard to teach." Another grin at that.

The chair went back up on two legs as he looked thoughtful. "So, not a lot of heavy hitting. By the way, Zadkiel heals, but it comes back on him, can fuck his shit up and I really mean that. Which - y'know, I've been trying to figure out what the fuck it is we're doing, even under the new world order, and I'm kind of going well, I guess we have to be us, just as hard as we fucking can, which is totally ridiculous because it doesn't add up to a purpose. But ... we've got a bunch of friendly faces." His voice slowed, the cadence thoughtful. "This isn't, you know, fucking X-Men or something, and it's really not the Four Aces either. We're not superheroes, you know? But ... we can't stand by the side and just watch the world happen without us. And I guess ... rather than, like, making a fucking life goal of stopping every fucking bank robbery that comes down the pike, I'd rather prove that we are. I mean, really, we exist, we're better than they want to think we are."

His eyes focused suddenly as he looked at her. "I mean ... the edicts were about corporations, at the end of the day, weren't they. They fucking had to be, you know well as I do that nothing gets fucking done in this country any more unless a corp's putting up the fucking funding. So what are they doing that they don't want us around any more? And honestly, I'm totally up for poking a corp in the fucking eye. I think - I think we do that by being seen. As us. As aces, deuces, jokers, whatever the fuck we are. I think we do stop the little things, if we can, if it's safe, and I think we also do the big thing of proving that we're not any more fucking scary than other people. Some of whom are fucking stone killers, princess, fucking believe it. If we don't go quietly, if we do prove we exist, we stop whoever fucking wants this, whatever it is, you know? It's like, okay, it's time to fucking stand up, because someone's decided it's time to shove us in the dirt, and fucking kowtowing is not a good look on me."

He dropped the chair back to the floor and looked at her intently, wondering if that was enough of an articulated statement that she understood him - more, that she was willing to go to that fight with him.

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[info]maxblinks
2010-06-28 12:33 am UTC (link)
"I know about Zad," she said, pulling her feet up under her, shoes left beneath the chair, so her toes curled over the edge and she could crouch there, bottom sort of propped on the arm of it. "He needs a spotter when he goes out, to keep him from going too far. He said he can stop, but I don't trust that, so he needs someone with him to break the connection if he goes to far. He's like a vampire in reverse."

She had to filter what he'd said to get at the core information, so she offered while she thought, "When you talk to the interviewers, you might want to drop a few less f-bombs. Not because they're offensive or anything, but because they make what you're saying muddier and it would have more impact if people don't have to translate in their heads to take them out."

She was nodding slowly, though, as she thought her way through it. "We live our lives, and even if we don't look for trouble, we don't go away without fixing it when we find it," she echoed. "We remind people that we are people above all, and we have to try to stay alive while we're doing it. I also think we ought to try to help the people who are endangered... You're talking about the killers, well, they'll go after people who are the weakest of the wild cards. Show how easy we are to kill, and people will be in danger. Either snapped up to be used, or dead. We should help them, because by helping them, we may be able to get them moving and proving that they exist."

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[info]palehorses
2010-07-03 02:55 am UTC (link)
"I think we need to be open," he said slowly. "It's risky, yeah, but ... how else do we make the fucking point? I know they can discriminate against us, can try to hurt us, but I don't know that they can really do anything much if we basically make a point of the fact we're all wild cards, right?" He thought he probably should check that, and a name leaped to mind to do that, but another part of the question was whether she - or anyone else, for that matter - would be willing to take that step. Right now, all of them, even Matt, could hide and hide safely.

What he wanted would make them unable to. And he couldn't possibly pretend there was no risk to that idea.

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[info]maxblinks
2010-07-04 04:08 am UTC (link)
Some of them didn't have a choice about being open. "I don't mind people knowing I'm a wild card. I'd have to move to oh, the middle of nowhere to be completely anonymous, then all they'd have to do is watch me for five minutes to figure it out. But you're right, that's the point. What can they do if we're not doing anything wrong?" Maxxie said. "If we're just all obviously wild cards, or sympathisers, and living our lives like everyday average people, because that's all we are, then they really can't do anything and look good while doing it."

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[info]palehorses
2010-07-04 06:20 pm UTC (link)
"Dangerous," he pointed out, but it wasn't a negative. Then he smiled brilliantly. "And as you say, you're fucking known, princess. But we can't make the fucking point if we're all hiding. Not that I fucking know how to show off what I am, but I won't lie about it any more, I know that."

He paused in thought, and said "What do you think of the others? Will they go there, do you think, or is it too safe to not be obvious? I mean, we don't have any jokers here, more's the pity - well, not really we don't - but I'm kind of fucking convinced that at least one person's here because it's a way to fucking hide in plain sight, you know?"

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[info]maxblinks
2010-07-04 07:19 pm UTC (link)
"I don't know if Tom's ready to go there or not," Maxxie admitted. "But he's always around me all the time anyway, and he was willing to train and learn how our powers interacted, so he's willing to do something. Who do you think is trying to hide in plain sight?"

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[info]palehorses
2010-07-04 08:32 pm UTC (link)
"Not sure how I feel about JT," Matt finally said. "He's hiding here, is my take." He shrugged. "Could change." But he sounded doubtful.

"Still, though," he added, more resolutely, "it's not going to work if we're all, like, fucking just here for our own reasons. I mean, I know you know that, it's the fucking basis of this conversation, but ... I'm wondering if we'll lose anyone if we present the ideas we're getting from this to them, you know?"

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[info]maxblinks
2010-07-05 01:40 am UTC (link)
"If we lose them, is that bad?" Maxxie asked. "And do we all have to be doing the exact same thing? We can have multiple plans going. Groups within a group. As long as everyone is pulling their weight and doing something towards the cause, even if it isn't going out to play poster child. We can attack the problem from multiple angles."

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[info]palehorses
2010-07-05 02:41 am UTC (link)
"Fuck no, it's not bad," Matt agreed. "Seriously, if this isn't what we're all committed to, you know? I really don't feel like sticking my fucking neck out for someone who might not have my back."

"As for plans," he said, "I don't fucking have a clue how to coordinate that. Just that it'd probably be a good idea to not, you know, have half the group heading off to the planet of naked stewardesses while the other group's off exploring the lost continent of the potato-people - at least, not if either group's expecting that everyone's going where they are, you know? But beyond that, fuck no I don't want to walk in lockstep with everyone else, and I don't want to think about, you know, like fucking group missions, or group hug time or whatever." He grimaced. "Just - we need to know what we stand for first before we can do it."

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[info]maxblinks
2010-07-05 02:59 am UTC (link)
"We need a mission statement. To better the lives of wild cards. Or to save wild cards, or save the rights of wild cards to be human and expect human decency," Maxxie suggested.

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[info]palehorses
2010-07-05 10:42 pm UTC (link)
"I like that," he said with surprise. "Never thought I'd say that about, you know, a fucking mission statement, but it at least lays out a ground level that we expect everyone to stand on. And if someone can't agree ... then this isn't the place for them."

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[info]maxblinks
2010-07-05 10:57 pm UTC (link)
Maxxie grinned. "Not everything about management is bullshit. Sometimes psychology actually works. That last bit -- that's really the core of it, I think. Want me to make a poster to put up in the entryway? Or kitchen. Since, like you've already pointed out, we all do eat."

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[info]palehorses
2010-07-08 12:57 am UTC (link)
"I don't know," he said thoughtfully, lighting another cigarette. "What do you think, that seems like, I don't know, fucking changing the rules without warning or something. I mean, I hate this shit, but maybe it's time to, like, call a house meeting or something? Lay out what you and I want to do and give other people the chance to decide before we're like plastering the walls with mission statements and team-building exercises?" He grinned at her, partly in genuine joy, but partly also in response to her own happiness.

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[info]maxblinks
2010-07-08 01:29 am UTC (link)
"Are we the leaders then?" Maxxie asked. It wasn't a position she wanted, but it was one she'd take on as necessary because someone needed to goose people into doing things properly. "We could write something up to send out, or have a house meeting, either would work. And you like seeing people in person, so the meeting's probably better. Either that or we talk with people personally. Like I can pretty much talk to Tom any time. But I think we need something solid to say, so we say the same thing, every time."

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[info]palehorses
2010-07-08 04:59 pm UTC (link)
"Mostly I just don't want to rope anyone in who doesn't fucking want to do it, you know?" He chewed on his lip. "And I don't want to be a leader either, honestly, but we fucking need something, since it's not Katherine and her happy band of fucking goons." It wasn't a position that appealed, but then again, he'd accepted that if he wanted to see a change, he needed to lead it - no one else was racing to, at any rate.

"But I agree with saying the same thing every time, yeah. And, like, I don't fucking know, there's not that many of us, it might make more sense to, you know, not put people on the fucking spot, but approach them individually. I mean, I don't want someone to support the fucking line if they don't want to, you know?"

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[info]maxblinks
2010-07-08 06:00 pm UTC (link)
"The individual approach works for me," Maxxie agreed easily enough on that. There really weren't very many of them in here. "Why don't I make a list or something of things we need to tell them, get that back to you, and we can split up who we're talking to based on who we get on well with? We need to include... hm... mission statement about saving the rights of wild cards. That we'll have several projects going for different groups of people, and leaders for the projects. That everyone's expected to be able to at minimum protect their own space in case we're invaded. And," she grinned suddenly, "for those in the field, learning the meaning of the secret language words will be imperative so we're all on the same page."

Her gaze was innocent and teasing. "Did I forget anything?"

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[info]palehorses
2010-07-09 02:02 am UTC (link)
"That everyone's responsible for figuring out their own shit." He grinned at the secret language reference, but let it pass other than that. "I mean, you know, something that keeps people interested, or just acknowledging that it might be a real good idea to, you know, rep wild cards in a positive light, and that doesn't fucking mean hiding out here waiting for orders you know? I like the radio station thing, stuff like that that holds someone's interest."

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[info]maxblinks
2010-07-09 02:13 am UTC (link)
"I like the radio station thing too, and I hope it gets off the ground. I think Del and Tom could do a good job with it." And she liked seeing Tom with something that seemed to be interesting him. "I think there ought to be many other good ideas, and other ways of reaching out to improve the wild card reputation. Everyone here has some skill, somehow, or else they wouldn't be here."

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[info]palehorses
2010-07-10 02:58 am UTC (link)
"We don't know why we were chosen, so we gotta assume it's something fucking nice about us," he said, an elliptical agreement if ever there was. "But yeah. What are people interested in, what can their contribution be. That's something you didn't hit, not in that language, you know. Now that we're all fucking corporate and shit."

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[info]maxblinks
2010-07-10 04:12 pm UTC (link)
"Okay, so list in my court. You make a list of who we've got and what we know so we can get all the blanks filled in when we talk to them? Like, what can they do, and whether they're on or off the grid," Maxxie suggested.

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