"Been there, done that." Gert mumbled, but didn't dwell. It really wasn't the kind of story you could just tell, anyway; so far, she hadn't met anyone who was likely to understand all the backstory about her LA.
"Okay. There doesn't seem to be any way out, so I'll give it a shot." But I'm reserving judgment, Gert's tone said. "Old Lace needs to stay outside, I'm guessing?"