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Dr. Jemma FitzSimmons (dissectsthings) wrote in wariscomingcom,
@ 2014-11-11 11:09:00

Entry tags:

becker, catherine glass, danny walker, hal yorke, james kirk, jemma simmons, john mitchell, marcel gerard, steve rogers/captain america

In Flanders' Fields
In Flanders' fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place: and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders' fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe;
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high,
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders' Fields.

John McCrae

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	needstheroutine 2014-11-11 11:28 am UTC (link)
	Well said Miss Simmons (Reply to this) (Thread)

	dissectsthings 2014-11-11 11:39 am UTC (link)
	Thank you, Mr Yorke. I felt it needed saying, given the day and all. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	needstheroutine 2014-11-11 11:41 am UTC (link)
	Quite right too. It is good to see them remembered (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	dissectsthings 2014-11-11 12:09 pm UTC (link)
	You were there, weren't you? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	needstheroutine 2014-11-11 12:17 pm UTC (link)
	Ah well...no. I mean not quite. I was there. At that time I mean, I was living in France, but I wasn't exactly myself. And I was fighting a different war. John Mitchell was. It was his war. Not mine. But I will always appreciate rememberances of those who died for their country. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	howcouldiask 2014-11-11 01:06 pm UTC (link)
	Still think it was our war spilling into the human world that caused theirs? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	needstheroutine 2014-11-11 03:32 pm UTC (link)
	Not caused perhaps but exasperated it certainly (Reply to this) (Parent)

	looklikeahero 2014-11-11 03:43 pm UTC (link)
	My daddy fought in the Great War. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	dissectsthings 2014-11-11 05:06 pm UTC (link)
	My Great grandfather did. And, I know a lot of the people here were around then. So, probably did too. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	action_man 2014-11-11 04:27 pm UTC (link)
	An important day to remember. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	dissectsthings 2014-11-11 05:07 pm UTC (link)
	It always is, yes. I've made my donation to the British Legion online this year. Harder to buy a poppy from them in the shops or something when you're here. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	action_man 2014-11-11 09:40 pm UTC (link)
	Same. I know America has their vets too, and I honour them along with our own, but it was in Britain that my father and grandfather served, where I served. There's just something special there, I think. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	onthefringes 2014-11-11 04:32 pm UTC (link)
	It is important to remember this stuff, but bloody hell, I wish I could forget it. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	dissectsthings 2014-11-11 05:09 pm UTC (link)
	I think we all wish we could forget any conflict we've been in. Although, that was one of the worst ones in history. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	onthefringes 2014-11-11 09:37 pm UTC (link)
	I'd say it's human nature, but 'human' doesn't cover it. I didn't pay much attention to any of the others since. But the trenches were fucking horrendous. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	dissectsthings 2014-11-12 07:21 pm UTC (link)
	No, but you used to be. You remember being it, right? I know the history of the ones in my world. Think they were similar across most of them. But, especially WWII, the agency I worked for was founded just after the War and it was a big part of our training there. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

onthefringes
2014-11-12 07:36 pm UTC (link)

I do. I was human back then. I was recruited in June 1917. That's what we call it, recruited. My maker thought I'd be useful.

It's important to learn from the mistakes of the past, but sometimes I wonder if we've gone too extreme with it in war. Now soldiers can go entire wars without ever looking the people they're killing in the eyes. Drones and bombs happen from behind computer screens. Back then we were huddled in the mud and the rain and shit scared all the time and a few feet away were some other guys from another country feeling the exact same way. We never forgot that the people we were killing were human beings.

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needstheroutine
2014-11-13 10:10 am UTC (link)

War isn't what it was. Never has been since those bombs in the 40's.

Like you say, we remember mud, and a camaradrie with the other combatants, though different in ideology or country. No shared language, no shared belief. But that fear. That knowledge that it was you or them.

That shaped us all.

Though your war shocked me. I know they say it a lot but there had been nothing on that scale. Not in my lifetime and I doubt very much before.

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	onthefringes 2014-11-13 03:42 pm UTC (link)
	War should be messy and painful and harsh. These bombs and now the drones, it makes it too impersonal. War from the boardroom. The fear is needed. Remembering that the other side is feeling just the same. All these decades later, I'm still not sure what that war was actually over. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	needstheroutine 2014-11-18 12:43 pm UTC (link)
	Do you know the greatest fear I have for that? How impersonal it becomes, its no longer life but dots on a screen, numbers in a ledger. It scares me that it has become so simple to wipe out life. What is war ever over? ideology, difference in culture, in belief. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	onthefringes 2014-11-18 02:39 pm UTC (link)
	Scares me too. Someone somewhere presses a button on a computer and half a world away a town gets wiped out from a drone or a chemical bomb. Shouldn't be that way. Seemed to me it was about jealousy over empires. Alliances and favours being called in all over the place, a Duke getting shot. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	needstheroutine 2014-11-20 10:55 am UTC (link)
	No it absolutely should not. But such is the world we created. Basically yes, one act sparked off a million others. And I must admit to feeling I had a bit of a hand in it given how bad things had gotten with the werewolves. In many ways one made the other worse (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	howcouldiask 2014-11-20 11:40 am UTC (link)
	It wasn't just you, Hal. And, that was only in our world. These others, still had the war and it had nothing to do with our war. Because that didn't exist there. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	needstheroutine 2014-11-20 11:57 am UTC (link)
	Oh I'm aware of that. This isn't self pity or anything, just the truth. Indeed. But I expect each world had its own factors, there's the big obvious ones that lead to it in every world, but I expect each world had a few different building blocks from the norm. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	lastnoteinasong 2014-11-11 05:11 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I know that feeling. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	onthefringes 2014-11-11 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	Drink? You're that guy Alex is seeing, right? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lastnoteinasong 2014-11-12 07:23 pm UTC (link)
	I wouldn't say no. Yeah, you're one of the vampires from her world, right? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	onthefringes 2014-11-12 07:38 pm UTC (link)
	Bed of Roses? That's me. Never met her back then, but we're the same world. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lastnoteinasong 2014-11-12 09:51 pm UTC (link)
	Sure. Fair. I've never met half the people from my world that are here, either. They're both still big worlds. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	onthefringes 2014-11-12 10:11 pm UTC (link)
	Sometimes strange to be reminded of that, how big our worlds actually are. I died before she did, so we never met, but she haunted my old home. I'd give you the talk about not screwing her over, but Lydia and Tom are her best friends and are scarier than me. I'm Mitchell, by the way. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lastnoteinasong 2014-11-12 10:37 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, Tom already cornered me for that one. He had a stake and everything. Marcel. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	onthefringes 2014-11-12 10:40 pm UTC (link)
	I can definitely picture that, he is one protective friend. Good to meet you Marcel. Outside party settings that is. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lastnoteinasong 2014-11-13 12:42 pm UTC (link)
	Good to meet you too Mitchell. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	needstheroutine 2014-11-13 10:11 am UTC (link)
	You served then? In that same war? [Marcel] For the record I don't fault you the awkwardness but there should be none. Both Alex and I have moved on and generally get on with our lives quite contentedly here. Don't feel like you have to avoid situations just because of me. I've no wish to cause dramatics. I grew tired of them long ago (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lastnoteinasong 2014-11-13 12:45 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I did. Was a vampire at the time. But, yeah. [Hal] Oh, no awkwardness. I get enough of that with one of my best friends also being ~~the love of my life~~ my ex. But, that was more because I wasn't sure she would be extremely comfortable being back at that house. Considering. But, if you want. I can make you the same offer I made Stefan. Drink? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	needstheroutine 2014-11-18 12:39 pm UTC (link)
	Does it matter what you were? It matters that you fought. [Marcel] Considering what? It ended. I thought fairly cleanly. But perhaps she didn't think as much. I'm glad there's no such awkwardness between us. That would be nice yes (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Hal lastnoteinasong 2014-11-20 11:38 am UTC (link)
	For you maybe. But, she won't talk about it. Friday, Bed of Roses? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Marcel needstheroutine 2014-11-20 11:56 am UTC (link)
	~~Yeah well she'll get as paranoid about you too one day, so look forward to that~~ I'm not surprised. That works for me. 8pm? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Hal lastnoteinasong 2014-11-20 01:40 pm UTC (link)
	Works for me. See you then. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	captcasanova 2014-11-11 04:44 pm UTC (link)
	I'm glad you posted this. I don't think we can afford to forget. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	dissectsthings 2014-11-11 05:09 pm UTC (link)
	Oh no. We never can. But, especially not today of all days. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	commanderrogers 2014-11-13 05:59 pm UTC (link)
	I've always liked this poem. The soldier who wrote it, John McCrae, was quite an interesting man, as well. I know they have a tribute to him in Canada's war museum in Ottawa. Not sure if it would be the same in this world, but it might be. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	dissectsthings 2014-11-14 12:17 am UTC (link)
	It probably is. Most things are the same, in some ways. Except technology, that's a little bit behind. We could always go look. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	commanderrogers 2014-11-14 12:21 am UTC (link)
	I was thinking about it actually, or just -- getting out of town for a few days. Not sure how would be the best time, though. Not with Stark Industries -- well, we certainly don't need to talk about that. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	dissectsthings 2014-11-14 12:33 am UTC (link)
	Maybe just give it a week to let things settle down again. Then, if you want the company, I could do with getting away for a few days myself. [Captain Rogers] We don't need to, no. But, if you want to, we can. (Reply to this) (Parent)