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Pandora Montgomery ([info]pandacharms) wrote in [info]vrrpg,
@ 2017-03-19 22:32:00

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Entry tags:char: alec urquhart, char: ewan summerby, char: nora urquhart, char: pandora montgomery, char: persephone montgomery, location: network, time: 2009 03

Who: Dora, Nora, Persy, Ewan, Alec
When: Monday March 20
What: Talking about some things.
Warnings: Language, probably. TBD
Public/Private: Private to individuals


MM to Nora 9:30am: I think I've decided to tell my mother I'm pregnant. Pretty sure I can't hide it much longer anyway. You saw the 'bump.' Plus apparently the baby is a passion fruit now.


MM to Persy 9:35am: Persy, I think i'm going to tell mum. But I don't know if I should do it to her face or just write her, considering everything. What do you think?


MM to Ewan 9:40am: I'm going to tell mum. I think.


MM to Alec 9:42am: I need an opinion that's somewhere between friendship and professional, if you have a moment and don't mind?



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[info]alec_urquhart
2017-03-19 11:50 pm UTC (link)
MM to Dora 9:44am: Not at all
MM to Dora 9:44am: What's going on?

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-20 08:10 am UTC (link)
MM to Alec 9:48am: I need to figure out how to tell my mother I'm pregnant without maybe ending up in a big mess

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[info]alec_urquhart
2017-03-20 07:43 pm UTC (link)
MM to Dora 9:52am: Define "big mess"

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-20 09:47 pm UTC (link)
MM to Alec 9:59am: Wel..... We're basically estranged. She hates the choice I made to save the family? Her aurors still lurk. A lot. Oh and she made sure I had time in Azkaban. And the last time I talked to her was at that ball for the election people
MM to Alec 10:02am: And it wasn't a good conversation. MOre like a public shouting match in a corridor of Hogwarts?
MM to Alec 10:03am: But she's my mother and as far as I kno this is her first grandchild and... mine and her problems shouldn't keep her from having a relationship with my child unless she wants it to.
MM to Alec 10:03am: So basically as long as I don't go to jail or anything, I'll probably be happy with the outcome.

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[info]alec_urquhart
2017-03-21 02:13 pm UTC (link)
MM to Dora 10:07am: Wait, you're telling me you seriously want to expose your young, impressionable child to a woman that ensured you spent time in Azkaban and has treated you like shit?
MM to Dora 10:08am: What exactly do you think is going to happen on the day that your kid comes home filled with notions of you being a liar and untrustworthy on account of you being an ex-con?
MM to Dora 10:09am: Look, this may just be my personal outlook on these things, but I can assure you that my parents are absolutely going to be kept from having a relationship with any and all children Nora and I choose to have. The last thing they need is to be exposed to the same beatings or pureblood rhetoric that I was subjected to. No way.
MM to Dora 10:09am: As a parent, it will be my responsibility to ensure my child's well-being. In this case, that includes keeping them away from their grandparents.
MM to Dora 10:10am: And if they're upset about it, well, maybe they should have thought about that before they were assholes.
MM to Dora 10:10am: As far as I'm concerned, the same goes for your mother.

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-21 05:46 pm UTC (link)
MM to Alec 10:15am: Okay so that came out sounding a lot worse than it is in some ways. I'm pretty sure it was more of a lack to help than a willful making sure I was imprisoned, these days, but the bitterness does rather leak through at times. She wasn't a bad mother, just.. distant.
MM to Alec 10:16am: Honest, Alec, she's pretty much just like me, except she's all black-and-white and I'm all grey.
MM to Alec 10:16am: Oh, she's not pureblood agenda. Mother never beat us like that or anything. She was strict. She's the bloody head of the DMLE, you know. She'd never break the law or her strict moral code. And she does have one, don't let her ancestry fool you.
MM to Alec 10:17am: And I'm not planning on letting her alone with my bairn right away or anything. She has to earn that. But I also think she's an aging witch who is quite... lonely, to be honest.
MM to Alec 10:18am: Part of me wants to do just that, exclude her absolutely like she cut me off. But that's also the part of me that's just like her, and I can't be that person and be a good mother, so is it just that vindictiveness, or is genuinely what's best? I'm not even sure any more. Persy doesn't think it's a bad idea, if that says anything.
MM to Alec 10:18am: Fuck it, it's not something I'm easy with, but neither is NOT letting her know either. That's why I'm asking for advice, I guess. It's a fuck up either way I choose.

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[info]alec_urquhart
2017-03-21 06:03 pm UTC (link)
MM to Dora 10:24am: She allowed you to get thrown into Azkaban. That goes far beyond being distant or strict. MY parents were distant and strict. Your mother frankly sounds like she has narcissistic personality disorder. Not to mention that that thing you call all black-and-white thinking is called splitting and is quite common in people with NPD. I have some literature aimed precisely at the children of narcissistic mothers if you'd ever like to peruse it.
MM to Dora 10:25am: Parenting is hard enough. The last thing you need is to make it harder on yourself by adding yet another rogue element into the mix.
MM to Dora 10:25am: And something tells me that Nora is liable to agree with me on this.
MM to Dora 10:27am: Though I will say that under no circumstances should you not take an action simply because you think it makes you like your mother. That's extremely destructive behavior and can lead to narcissistic parenting styles on your part, too. Given that your mother was a distant narcissistic mother, you'd do the opposite to counter her and provide for your children what you didn't have, thus rendering you a helicopter parent.
MM to Dora 10:29am: All I am saying is that this is far more complex and important to think through than it may seem. From the outside, you're asking yourself if you should tell your mother of an important event in your life. But in reality, you are choosing whether or not to open the door for the both of you to have a relationship again, and under no circumstances will I recommend that, as it's liable to end up being extremely destructive and damaging for you.
MM to Dora 10:29am: Now, if you do choose to go through with this course of action, set strict boundaries right from the start, before you talk to her at all, and stand by them with an iron fist.
MM to Dora 10:30am: I think I'd be more comfortable with the prospect of you doing this if you were seeing a therapist on a regular basis, but as you are so very reluctant to do that (no offense), I'm merely hoping to warn you. This could affect your mental health severely, it could affect the health of your relationship with Ewan, your relationship with your future children, and your relationship with your sister. Think very long and hard before going through with this.

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-21 06:19 pm UTC (link)
MM to Alec 10:35am: In her defense, I am a murderer. I was caught covered in blood. The fact I was only ever caught murdering Death Eaters and the like in a crazed rage is beside the point. It's not like I could actually deny what I'd done.
MM to Alec 10:36am: Well, Nora hasn't said it's a horrid idea, yet. Or Ewan or Persy. So it's a bit up in the air.
MM to Alec 10:37am: I won't argue though that htere's probably something wrong with her. You know she's the sister of the Lestranges who are so very famous. But I'm not precisely always in my right mind either, so I can't throw stones, I suppose.
MM to Alec 10:37am: I'll ask Ewan if he really thinks I should. He's much more objective than I am on the entire thing. I want to be a good mother and I know that's a worry I'll always have, because I take strongly after her and it worries me a lot.
MM to Alec 10:38am: All right, I make no promises, but if you give me someone's name, I promise to consider going. It might ease Ewan's mind, at the very least. I am reluctant, I didn't have any good experiences before, but I'll think about it. I don't want to fuck things up with Ewan or the bairn or my sister or any of you.
MM to Alec 10:39am: I just don't want to do this because I'm being petty and vindictive, because you probably realize I CAN be those things at times. Besides, I'm already fucked up. I just don't want this to be something I'm always going to regret, too.

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(no subject) - [info]alec_urquhart, 2017-03-21 06:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-21 06:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]alec_urquhart, 2017-03-21 06:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-21 07:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]alec_urquhart, 2017-03-21 07:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-21 07:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]alec_urquhart, 2017-03-21 07:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-21 07:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]alec_urquhart, 2017-03-21 07:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-21 08:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]alec_urquhart, 2017-03-21 10:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-22 12:51 am UTC

[info]e_summerby
2017-03-19 11:53 pm UTC (link)
MM to Dora 9:41am: About the engagement, where we're hoping to get married, or the baby?
MM to Dora 9:42am: Goodness, there's been a lot going on, hasn't there?

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-20 08:12 am UTC (link)
MM to Ewan-mine 9:45am: um. All of it? Though I suspect she probably knows about the engagement.
MM to Ewan-mine 9:46am: still shocked she's not been by to glare at you yet

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[info]e_summerby
2017-03-20 08:55 pm UTC (link)
MM to Panda Bear 9:48am: It hasn't been announced in the Prophet yet, has it? Maybe she doesn't know.

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-20 09:49 pm UTC (link)
MM to Ewan-mine 9:50am: Noooo but I've been seen by aurors with your ring on my finger, so.

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[info]e_summerby
2017-03-21 12:28 pm UTC (link)
MM to Panda Bear 9:53am: I'm sure they don't automatically know it's my ring...

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-21 05:47 pm UTC (link)
MM to Ewan-mine 9:51am: Well. Who else's would it be? O.o

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-21 06:20 pm UTC (link)
MM to Ewan-mine 10:45am: So Alec has serious qualms about me doign this. I was asking him for advice on how to tell her. :P Ewan, do YOU think I should tell Mother? In all seriousness. I'm not exactly objective, here. I've got strong feelings on both sides of this.

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[info]e_summerby
2017-03-21 06:51 pm UTC (link)
MM to Panda Bear 10:51am: Sorry, sorry, work has been quite busy!
MM to Panda Bear 10:53am: For all we know, they could assume that you're wearing it as a decoy. Would your mother even surmise that we'd have gotten back together and engaged in such a short time?
MM to Panda Bear 10:55am: Panda Bear, you know I have never liked her. She's been just dreadful to you. But I would never presume to tell you what to do. She is your mother, after all.

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(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-21 06:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]e_summerby, 2017-03-21 07:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-21 07:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]e_summerby, 2017-03-21 07:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-21 07:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]e_summerby, 2017-03-21 10:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-22 12:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]e_summerby, 2017-03-22 02:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-22 07:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]e_summerby, 2017-03-22 01:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-22 01:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]e_summerby, 2017-03-22 03:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-22 03:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]e_summerby, 2017-03-22 04:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-22 05:47 pm UTC

[info]notlenora
2017-03-20 12:26 am UTC (link)
MM to Dora 9:35 AM: Now you've just gone and made me hungry, calling it a passion fruit like that... I really need to learn to eat breakfast.
MM to Dora 9:36 AM: You know I'll kick her ass if she gives you any sass, right?

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-20 08:14 am UTC (link)
MM to Nora 9:40am: The chart I was given keeps comparing it to fruit. I keep wondering if it's to make me crave it or something :PM
MM to Nora 9:41am: you do need breakfast. Come over and eat with me. I'm actually hungry today
MM to Nora 9:41am:haha yeah I know. I'm worried given the fact that last time we talked it was a pretty big fight. In public.

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[info]sepphy
2017-03-20 10:20 am UTC (link)
MM to Panda 11:03am: I'm a big fan of writing letters, but this might be better face to face.

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-20 06:53 pm UTC (link)
MM to Persy 11:05am: I was thinking that. But last time we talked, it was a huge fight.

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[info]sepphy
2017-03-21 05:39 pm UTC (link)
MM to Panda 11:08am: So write a letter then. Tell her or just see if she wants to meet?

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-21 05:48 pm UTC (link)
MM to Persy 11:10am: You've got good ideas. Even if Alec is telling me it's an awful idea.
MM to Persy 11:11am: You still willing to go with me, if it comes to that?

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[info]sepphy
2017-03-21 06:05 pm UTC (link)
MM to Panda 11:19am: Of course I'd come with you. Have you thought about asking Alec if he has any colleagues he'd recommend? Not that you NEED to talk to someone, but a lot has happened in our family since the war and now that you're starting your own family maybe it would be good to talk about things with someone impartial?

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[info]pandacharms
2017-03-21 06:23 pm UTC (link)
MM to Persy 11:25am: My mental health is that obvious, huh? o.o He is going to get me a name. I don't promise I'm going to go yet though. I think I bungled my attempt to explain mother to him. She IS rather complicated. And I'm probably the least objective person in the world when it comes to her.

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[info]sepphy
2017-03-21 06:34 pm UTC (link)
MM to Panda 11:28am: That hiding in a cupboard thing when I came to dinner was a wee clue. You don't have to go, but it'll be good for you to have the option. I think the whole family is complicated. I'm not objective when it comes to any of you. xxx

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(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-21 06:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepphy, 2017-03-24 05:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-25 01:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepphy, 2017-03-25 05:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-26 12:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepphy, 2017-03-26 03:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-26 03:54 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-26 04:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepphy, 2017-03-26 04:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-26 04:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepphy, 2017-03-26 04:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pandacharms, 2017-03-26 04:32 pm UTC
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