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Zevran Arainai had sex with your mom. (easy_lover) wrote in valarlogs, @ 2013-03-27 01:34:00

Who: Zev and Renly.
What: Talkin' about bondage. Over lunch. Like you do.
When: Saturday, 3/23
Where: A fancy restaurant.
Rating: R for non-specific discussion of BDSM things.
Status: Complete!



Zevran had gotten to the restaurant a bit early to secure a good table. He wanted it a bit back and out of the way, lest Skeeter get a hold of it and think that Zev was cheating before his wedding. Which he wasn’t.

Scanning the menu, Zev waited for his guest.

Renly was only a little nervous about asking Zev questions about bondage, but since he and Loras were both interested, he figured that getting some knowledge about it was the best way to go and asking Zevran about it was probably better than just doing what they did in the movies. He was sure that there was much more to it than what you saw and wanted to know everything he could before he and Loras tried anything, because the last thing he wanted to do was hurt his Knight.

It didn’t take Renly long to find the restaurant and was soon being escorted back to the table the other man was already seated at, “Hi. Thanks for meeting me.”

“Of course. And don’t worry, I didn’t forget your goody bag,” Zev grinned, standing up to shake Renly’s hand. “It’s just in the car. I figured it’s better to not bring spreader bars and rope into polite company, no?”

Renly had to laugh at that. He could only imagine what sort of things Zevran had for him, “Yeah, this probably isn’t the right setting for that.” After releasing the other man’s hand, Renly sat down across from him and opened his menu, “Do you get people asking you for advice like this often?”

“Not people I’m friends with, no. At conventions, yes. Constantly.” Zev laughed. “I prefer it from friends, honestly. I know you, so it is not so strange. Strangers asking is quite odd. Not that I mind, it’s just that they tend to scream while I answer. Why ask me a question so you cannot hear what I say?”

Renly knew about porn conventions, but it was still something that he thought was rather odd. Maybe not odd, but definitely interesting. “I must know, what’s the strangest question you’ve ever been asked?” He just had to know now. After all, it wasn’t everyday that he became friends with an actual porn star.

Zev thought to himself. “Someone asked me to detail my bathroom schedule.” That had just been weird and gross.

Renly wrinkled his nose at that, “Whoever asked that has a problem.” He said, shaking his head, “Honestly, who asks that sort of thig?” The things that famous people got asked were ridiculous sometimes and Renly was glad that he wasn’t in the public eye.

“That is what I told them.” Zev sipped his water, leaning back. “I am hoping this year when I go to that convention it will be easier. I am planning on bringing Roy. He will find it funny.” Zev couldn’t help but grin lopsidedly. It was pretty funny.

Renly laughed and sipped his own water, “I’m sure that will be interesting.” Renly would have to find out how the convention went when it was over, “So, he really had no problems with you making movies while you’ve been together?” Renly didn’t think he could ever do that. He could never he cool with Loras sleeping with someone else in that capacity. Even if it was work. The both of them were extremely jealous when it came to the other.

“He did not, no. I think it is because he was raised rather ... oddly by his godfather.” Zev had been more than happy to stop acting, though; he’d not had the heart to keep sleeping with other people. He just wanted Roy.

“I could never be comfortable with that. I’m far too possessive of Loras. I know that might make me sound obsessive or something, but I can assure that it’s not in a crazy way.” Renly decided to tell Zevran a little more about Loras than he had the last time, “Loras and I dream of the same time and place. We were actually lovers in the dreams. We’ve only known each other a few months here, but when I said we met when we were young, I was referring to the dreams. They feel so real that it feels like I’ve known him forever.”

Zev’s eyes went wide. “That’s a blessing, I think. In my dreams, I loved once, but ... she left too soon.” No need to tell this man with whom he was forging a tentative friendship that he dreamed he was an assassin in his dreams.

Renly couldn’t help but smile as he thought of Loras in his dreams, “He told me some things the first time we met here. That we were in love in the dreams.” He still hated the fact that Loras thought that he’d left because of the things he’d told him, “I had to leave shortly after that, but when I came back in December, I started having my own dreams. Loras was my squire. My Knight. We had to keep our relationship a secret.” Although, based on Littlefinger’s comment about Loras during the Hand’s Tourney, Renly was fairly certain that others knew anyway.

“I hope it is not as secret here.” Zev smiled to himself. “There’s a little bit of an allure to secrecy, but it wears thin in a short time.”

“Not like it was there.” Renly said, sipping his water, “The people close to us know and that’s all that really matters.” He had seen the post that Rita Skeeter woman had made about Loras during the time that he’d been back in England, so Loras’ sexuality wasn’t exactly a secret to the public either.

“It’s fairly obvious for me, if only because people see it constantly.” Zev giggled to himself. “I didn’t bother saying anything, and I don’t know if Roy minded too much when he was seen with me.”

“I’m sure if he minded then he would have said something.” Renly knew that Loras definitely would have spoken up if he had a problem with something and Renly preferred it that way, because there they could talk about whatever it was and figure out how to fix it, if it needed to be fixed.

“That Skeeter woman did it - she mentioned we were dating, so he couldn’t really deny it since it was true.” Zev smiled brightly at the mere mention of his fiance, cheeks going bright pink.

“While I was back in England she outed Loras’ sexuality too.” Renly still didn’t know who the man was that Loras was kissing in the picture and he didn’t think he had a right to even ask considering, they weren’t together at the time and Loras had thought that Renly had run off because of the dreams then Loras had told him about, “Someone should stop her.”

“I’m pretty sure that nothing can. I think that she’s a demon. Or a zombie.” Zev wrinkled his nose. He would’ve said a darkspawn, but Renly probably didn’t know what that was. Zev didn’t know how many others dreamed about Thedas.

“Whatever she is, there’s no mistaking that she’s a nosy bint.” Renly shook his head as a waitress came by to ask if they were ready to order. Renly placed his order then waited for Zevran to place his own before speaking again, “Someone should tell her to get a life.”

“Oh, I am certain she has one. I think that it is darker than we can imagine.” Zev didn’t comment further on the matter, ordering his food and leaning back with a glass of red wine.

Renly decided that he didn’t want to talk about Rita Skeeter anymore and instead changed the subject to the main reason they had made plans to meet, “So, what advice would you give to a beginner when it comes to bondage?” Zevran had picked a good table, because it was away from most of the others, so there was little chance of many overhearing them.

Zev smiled. “The most important thing to keep in mind is that it isn’t about taking, is not about forced submission. It is about an agreement. Whoever is the submissive in the scenario, they are giving someone the power. It is about trust. Trust is the sexiest thing in the world.”

Renly nodded and took a sip of his own wine, “I trust Loras with my life and I know it’s the same the other way around.” He didn’t think that Loras would be into trying this if he didn’t trust Renly with his life. It really did show just how much had changed since Renly had moved back. Back in December, up until Renly had gotten sick, Loras had barely wanted to see Renly and now they couldn’t have been happier.

“The other bit is really just experience and playing around. Find out what sensations you each like best - I prefer rope to handcuffs but leather above all, for example. Find out how much pain you can tolerate before you burst. I included a few movies in the goody bag, it should help. Just alternate the pain and the pleasure. Too much of something is never good, no?”

So far it all sounded like things that he and Loras would have no trouble doing. They already trusted one another more than anyone else and the pleasure and pain thing seemed like it was easy enough to figure out. Renly would never cross any lines or continue doing anything if Loras didn’t enjoy it or was in pain. “So far, I think this is something that shouldn’t be too difficult to get the hang of.”

“It really isn’t too difficult. The toys are the part that’s difficult. You’ll get a collection, and you won’t be able to stop.” He smiled to himself, shaking his head. “I had to put things into a chest, and I keep it in my closet.”

He and Loras had talked briefly about sex toys after Loras had found the DVDs, but so far Renly had never actually used any. “I can only imagine the two of us in an adult toy store. It will be an interesting trip when we finally decide to do it.” An amused smirk crossed his lips at the thought.

“You could always go online. It’s more discreet, and often the selection is better.”

Renly nodded, “I’ll keep that in mind.” He didn’t think they would be investing in any sex toys just yet, but it was definitely something to remember for when they did decide to get some. “It’s funny, this is not a conversation I ever thought I’d be having, but oddly enough it’s not as awkward as I had been expecting.”

“Well, that is because I am very good at not being specific.” Zev winked at Renly. “I have been doing this for a long time.”

“I suppose that’s one reason.” If someone had told Renly a few months earlier that he’d wind up becoming friends with a porn star and have a discussion about bondage at the fairly nice restaurant, he would have asked them what drugs they were taking, but Renly was actually glad that he’d bumped into Zevran on the beach that day. He really was a genuinely nice guy, “Well, I appreciate this a lot.”

“Of course. I put a DVD that has some instructional portions to it. In most movies, you don’t see the tying of knots and such - the films sort of start after that. These show those parts. They are quite sweet, actually.” Zev smiled, hoping that he’d be forgiven for including one that starred him.

“I was going to ask about knots, so I suppose that answers that question,” Really, who had conversations like this in a restaurant? Part of him wished that Loras was there as well, but it would be nicer getting to go over everything with Loras on his own. One on One.

“I would start with bondage tape - it is like duct tape, but it does not hurt when you take it off. That is the easiest, and you can find out how much pressure you like and so on.” Zev munched his food, grinning to himself.

Renly nodded as he began eating his own food, “I’ll have to make a note of that.” When he and Loras finally began experimenting with all of this, it was bound to be interesting and he was looking forward to it. Renly had thought about doing these things before, but Loras was the first person he’d ever actually considered doing them with. It would be nice to share some firsts with Loras.

“Truly, what it sounds like is that you two just need time to experiment and find what you enjoy. You have the rest of your lives, which is fortuitous!” Zev beamed. He loved seeing other people in love.