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Até: Ruin, Infatuation, Obsession, & Love's Folly ([info]banishedruin) wrote in [info]utr_logs,
@ 2008-12-15 01:16:00

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Entry tags:até, dr. norah skinner

Who: Até and Dr. Skinner
What: Therapy, take two.
When: Wednesday Afternoon.
Where: The Doctor's office.
Warnings: Naw. Possible language?



Até felt a lot calmer about the whole... going to talk to a stranger about her personal business thing. It felt like she was accomplishing something. There was a problem, she acknowledged it, She was taking the proper steps to correct the issue. She had control of the situation, and that was a position she always preferred... even if that was possibly what had landed her here in the first place. She paused for a moment outside the good Doctor's door, plucking a miniscule bit of lint off her sweater, then knocked. She was right on time.



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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 12:55 am UTC (link)
Since it was time for another appointment with Até, Norah made sure that everything was prepared in her office and went to go get the door. Opening it up, she smiled. It was always good when her clients actually wanted to show up. "Hello, nice to see you, come in.." she greeted, gesturing for her to come in and standing back from the door. "How have you been?"

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 01:04 am UTC (link)
"Decent... Busy. Something about the holidays that turn people into raving morons, but that's pretty par for the course I think, whatever world you're on." She grinned as she entered, following Norah back to her office. She couldn't really remember the last conversation she had with someone who wasn't either a demon or family. It amused on quite a few levels. "How about you, Doc? Stockings all hung by the chimney with care?"

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 01:08 am UTC (link)
"Oh yes definitely. You'd not be surprised at the people who call me up in a panic because they can't find presents at the last minute and think because I'm their shrink I'll know what the other people will want," she shook her head and smiled. Heading back into her office, she let her in and closed the door behind them. "Ah.. not exactly. I'm not the christmas type. But in general I'm having a ... very weird and confusing week." she sat down in a chair.

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 01:14 am UTC (link)
"Yeah, I run a restaurant. Apparently, we're supposed to know people meant to call for reservations. And I don't do Christmas either. At least I get to be a bitch about it... I don't suppose you can really tell your clients to fuck off." She took one of the other chairs, dropping into a relaxed slouch, a brow lifting at the admission of a weird week. "That doesn't sound particularly good. Everything ok?"

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 01:23 am UTC (link)
She gave a little sigh, "I can't say I'm surprised. Some people I just don't understand even if I'm supposed to. It's a wonder that so many think that everyone's a mindreader." She kind of rolled her eyes. "No, I usually can't. I just generally tell them to get gift certificates and hang up the phone." Well it was the truth. Her shoulders shrugged, "To be honest? Probably not. I just have .. no idea what to do about it. It's not really in my hands. No control over the situation so to speak."

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 01:33 am UTC (link)
"Makes you feel bad for anyone who is a mind reader, picking up all the useless drivel in a random person's head." She smirked lightly... she was in a particularly good mood for some reason. Probably because she did get to tell people to fuck off all day... and that small bit of joy involved in ruining a person's night. "Yeah... lack of control and the fact that it sucks? Something I'm intimately familiar with. I hear it helps to talk about it."

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 01:37 am UTC (link)
Sitting back a little she nodded, "I wouldn't want to be a mind reader for all the money in the world. Or anything else for that matter." Her head would implode. More then it already seemed to do anyway. "It does suck. I mean.. I think so. I don't know anymore." She paused, "Are you sure? It's a bit .. complicated." Was she really going to tell her everything? Hm, well it wasn't like it mattered now since Henry and Edward were separate and work didn't exist.

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 01:43 am UTC (link)
Até merely shrugged. "Sure. I've got a whole slew of younger siblings... I'm good at listening. And complicated." And she was... it was the listening to her own advice bit that she royally sucked at. She rolled her shoulders a bit and settled back, crossing one leg over the other as she watched the doctor. " No reason this has to be a one way thing. What's eating at you?"

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 01:51 am UTC (link)
Sitting there a moment, like she was hesitating she realized she needed to tell someone. Say things out loud or something. To get it off her chest. "Back where I came from I was involved with someone I worked with. That in itself was.. bad enough. But.. he was .. is.. the worst kind of man to get involved with. Arrogant and a godawful slut.. and just.. he didn't want to get attached. I said that was fine, it was sex but then eventually it wasn't.." she trailed off.

"And that.. I mean that's not the complicated bit. The complicated bit was that he.. is.. was.. two men.. kind of like a split personality but much more.. well it wasn't psychological. The other half was nice, sweet and married and my patient. See where it starts to get complicated?"

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 01:57 am UTC (link)
She blinked once, but took it mostly in stride. Two men in one body sounded improbable, sure... but then so did vortexes and demons and superheroes and stuff. Not to mention goddesses. "Ahh... and getting involved in a patient has to be a bit complicated, even when someone's just one person, I bet. So you're falling for Guy A, who's apparently a bit of a jerk, and you've got Guy B as well deal with... I think I'm following."

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 02:09 am UTC (link)
"Right.. so.. the two .. know about each other. And they hate each other. Hate their existence being stuck together.." she shook her head a little. "So then we get here. And.. well Guy B found out about Guy A and I in a way.. I didn't want at all. There was freaking out, but then.. Guy B and I.. just gave in. Then.. somehow.. the two found a way to be separated. Two different bodies. And.. Guy A has.. all but left me. He doesn't even.. speak to me really."

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 02:22 am UTC (link)
"So Guy A is still a jerk, apparently... but you've got a separate Guy B, who you've shagged, and not sure how to handle... right? So is it that you want Guy A back, or that you've got to figure out what to do about Guy B? I assume his family isn't here as well." Neither would really surprise her... she rather assumed it was the first really. chicks dug guys who were jerks... she knew that first hand.

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 02:28 am UTC (link)
"Right. Guy A is still a jerk and Guy B seems.. I'm not sure it's that I'm always there to help him because I like taking care of him or it's because he wants me to take care of him it's just.. like he wanted me to .. lie with him in bed. To help him sleep, he didn't want to be alone.." she gave a large sigh. "No his family's not here but they could be you know? I don't know how these other people deal with it knowing that someone could just show up from someone's past.. even if they were dead or something."

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 02:36 am UTC (link)
"I don't know... I try not to think about the whole people appearing out of nowhere thing. I tend to look at this as a place where you get to start something new? Maybe the whole point is to allow shit that wouldn't fly at home, or to take away the reasons for not doing shit. Worrying about what could happen tomorrow, or next week or 8 years from now seems like a whole lot of energy expended on things that could equally not happen, right?" The fact that she was basically the kettle talking to the pot at the moment didn't even register.

"So do you think Guy B's looking at you like some... sister/mother figure, and really does want you to just take care of him, or is he dealing with nice guy syndrome? You know, where he just wants to get all close and friendly and such in the hopes that you'll fall for him, but he won't ask because he might suffer rejection? I guess the first question is do you want A or B... or just want to toss in the towel with both of them?"

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 02:56 am UTC (link)
It registered with Norah but she didn't say anything, she just nodded her head. "I suppose that's right. I guess you can worry about it but in the end it's just like anywhere else. Anything could happen, you cant just worry about everything." Though hell if she wasn't a worrier. She was hard core. But she was going to keep in mind Ate's statement for later on when they were working things out with her that was for sure.

She hm'd a bit, "Right.. I dont know the answers to those. I'm not sure he has the answers to them either. He loves his wife though, he does. I'm not sure that's gone out the window because he's here. I want.. well I want Guy A I'm afraid I always will but what if I'm just.. settling for B because A has swanned off? I can't know that until I know what they want and they don't know.. it's just a pile of .. crap. I did meet another nice man who took me around town. A man that I dont know at all and has no relationship to me or them what so ever."

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 03:07 am UTC (link)
"Why does what they want affect what you want? I get the concern about settling for B. And it sounds like if he doesn't know what he wants, then at least he's not being manipulative about it. It sounds like he's going through a bunch of shit. Being there is cool and all, but if that's not what you want too, and he get's the wrong impression, then where are you? I'm not saying abandon the guy in his time of need, but if you don't think you want to end up somewhere, you've gotta go with boundaries, right? Guy A sounds like he needs a swift kick in the balls, and needs to make up his mind... and Guy C sounds like just the sort of diversion you'd need. But I'm literally the last person you should ever take advice of the heart from."

She bit her lower lip for a moment, quickly weighting her next words. "You know... if you do decide what you want? There's ways around the rest of it. Even if it just means getting rid of lingering feelings. There's all sorts of people here."

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 12:31 pm UTC (link)
"I don't know, it shouldn't but it does. I cant wait around for either of them to make up their minds though, that's for certain.." she sighed a bit and rubbed her eyes. "Actually it's helped quite a bit just being able to tell someone out loud instead of just keeping it all to myself, so thank you." And she meant it, just talking about it had helped and made her feel better. She glanced back up at her curiously though at her words.

"People who can.. get rid of my feelings about.. Guy A, you mean?" she hm'd slightly. "I might have to do that. Can't be any worse then making someone into two personalities can it?"

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 12:57 pm UTC (link)
She nodded lightly. "Yeah. Waiting for other people can be a bitch." She smiled. "And You're welcome. I mean, if you're going to listen to me and my problems, the least I can do is reciprocate. I kind of got lucky - I had family here when I showed up. If all you've got is A and B and they're being dumb? Friends can be good."

And she was immediately glad all of this was confidential... This whole world was making her soft. She was thankful for the second question. "Guy A, Guy B... Whichever. You decide you want to do that? Let me know. I know people. It's all pretty painless if done the right way." Rather, she was people... screwing with feelings of the heart was her specialty after all.

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 01:27 pm UTC (link)
Norah laughed a little, "That's putting it mildly. I never really had friends or family back home so it's not so much of a change here except for where they went and confused me.." she shook her head. Stupid Edward and Henry. "Anyway, thank you for the offer, I'll let you know what I decide.. when I actually decide it."

She folded her arms on top of each other and sat back, "well then.. how have things been going on at home? Has he asked you to marry him again?" She might as well stop talking about herself. After all, she wasn't the patient.

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 01:51 pm UTC (link)
"Eh." She shrugged, shoving her hands in her pockets, a light scowl crossing her face. "He hasn't. He's waiting. He's insidious... and will wait until I'm feeling either particularly comfortable or incredibly turned on to ask again. Then he'll come up with a bunch of logic and shit about love when I tell him he's crazy. And when I tell him we're fine the way we are he'll tell me that he finds marriage to be the ultimate expression of love and commitment. THEN he'll tell me he understands, and it's all ok, and I'll feel terrible. Because he does understand.."

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 02:04 pm UTC (link)
Her head nodded slightly, "That certainly seems like a pain. Logic about love hm? Well if he knows something the rest of us don't, I'm not sure there's very much logic to love or .. any kind of emotion really but I guess everyone feels differently. Though since they do, I guess that's why it's not logical. He says he understands and it's all okay but if he keeps asking you then I'm not sure he does I guess. But you think he does, right?"

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 02:22 pm UTC (link)
She smirked at the idea of there being logic to love, and for a moment thought she should introduce the doctor to Aphrodite. But then, so far she liked the doctor, and there was no need to punish the lady.

"See... that's the thing. He does understand. He just thinks I'm wrong, and that my reasons are simply excuses. Which they might be. And it doesn't matter how often I tell him I can't, that I don't deserve it, and I've done shit... he just says none of that matters. And... maybe he's right." She shrugged, looking up. "But I still have a panic attack whenever I think he even might ask. He puts up with so much shit from me, and the two things he wants, I can't or won't do. And.. I don't know if I'm just... fulfilling my own prophesy of fucking everything up?"

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 06:09 pm UTC (link)
"Well self fulfilling prophecy's can be very real. It does sort of seem like you've got yourself set in a cycle of sorts. I think we should start working on the panic attacks first, since they're a physical symptom and if we can eliminate those then things will run smoother," she explained, nodding her head as she listened to Ate talk.

"Tell me how exactly you feel physically when you think he's going to ask. The symptoms that come along with it... describe it all for me."

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[info]banishedruin
2008-12-15 06:36 pm UTC (link)
"The normal. heart racing, shortness of breath, chest tight. You know... Panicked.And.. You have to understand. I have never dealt with panic before. And I've done some truly terrible shit in my life. I got kicked off my home. I am a calm rock in a sea of chaos usually."

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[info]hasnowillpower
2008-12-15 06:40 pm UTC (link)
She smiled some, "Duly noted. All right, well then the best way to actually get through a panic attack and try to get over them is to ... induce them. I can talk you through what to do until the cows come home but it doesn't really mean anything if you don't know how it feels. So.. is that something you'd be okay with trying?"

Though it wasn't like she could just wave her hand and get her to have a panic attack. She'd have to try something more subtle.

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