Adrian Marius (venetianblinds) wrote in thegrand_ic, @ 2012-10-07 22:13:00 |
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Entry tags: | abel jalil, caim/adrian marius |
Who Caim and Abel and a switch up to Dante, Abel's evil half and then back to Abel again.
When The day London threatened to leave
What AIM Chat
Warnings speak of blood murder and other not nice things
Status Complete
(8:32:03 PM) CaimsQuill: Babyyyyyyyyyyy
(8:32:16 PM) Abel Jalil:: Yeeeees, love?
(8:32:29 PM) CaimsQuill: Minzy's being a paaaaaaaain
(8:32:31 PM) CaimsQuill: LOL
(8:32:38 PM) CaimsQuill: now I have you to tattletale to
(8:32:42 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hahah. When is she not?
(8:32:49 PM) CaimsQuill: valid
(8:32:51 PM) CaimsQuill: HAHAH
(8:33:03 PM) CaimsQuill: I'm telling her she has to be nice to you
(8:33:19 PM) CaimsQuill: then I had to threaten the sword
(8:33:32 PM) CaimsQuill: I did tell you about that didn't I?
(8:33:38 PM) CaimsQuill: the sword thing
(8:35:36 PM) Abel Jalil:: Uuh...I don't think so. Heh.
(8:39:27 PM) CaimsQuill: well there's a reason I put up with her dragonass
(8:39:56 PM) CaimsQuill: I mean, ok. once upon a time a long time ago. like 2000 years
(8:40:19 PM) CaimsQuill: I was in Rome beating the shit out of people in the ring with my sword
(8:40:44 PM) CaimsQuill: and she comes along and decides she wants it for her guarded treasure. obsessed dragon thing
(8:40:54 PM) CaimsQuill: we battle for like days over this thing.
(8:41:07 PM) CaimsQuill: she kept getting the thing from me and I'd just call it back
(8:41:32 PM) CaimsQuill: and she wouldn't stop following me around, epic battle kind of shit. she killed me I don’t know how many times
(8:41:37 PM) CaimsQuill: then
(8:42:16 PM) CaimsQuill: we came to a truce . she was so obsessed with death that she agreed to stop if I let her watch when I had to slay people
(8:42:22 PM) CaimsQuill: she's a wack job
(8:42:41 PM) CaimsQuill: so then she just followed me around and I let her play with the thing
(8:42:50 PM) CaimsQuill: over the years we became sorta pals
(8:43:01 PM) CaimsQuill: she ended up my war counselor
(8:43:10 PM) CaimsQuill: and oversees my armies
(8:43:36 PM) CaimsQuill: but really I know she's all about protecting me because she knows my sword is connected to me
(8:43:47 PM) CaimsQuill: I become weak so does it
(8:44:04 PM) CaimsQuill: and as an obsessed dragon she actually believes the thing is hers
(8:44:11 PM) CaimsQuill: that's sorta our tale
(8:44:33 PM) CaimsQuill: so every time she acts out of turn the sword is all I have to threaten and she falls in line
(8:44:47 PM) Abel Jalil:: Huh...that's. Wow.
(8:44:50 PM) Abel Jalil:: Wow.
(8:45:18 PM) Abel Jalil:: I feel like a champ having you all threatening a big bad dragon over me. Haha.
(8:47:53 PM) CaimsQuill: Aw. well ya know. I like...love you and all that
(8:48:02 PM) CaimsQuill: haha
(8:49:25 PM) CaimsQuill: I'm having another issue though
(8:55:17 PM) Abel Jalil:: What is it, babe?
(8:55:30 PM) Abel Jalil:: One that requires me to make some pasta so we can have a bit of wine together?
(8:55:56 PM) CaimsQuill: that sounds more the solution to my issue right now, something to clear my mind
(8:56:08 PM) CaimsQuill: but ehhh. I sorta own some souls. you know that right?
(8:56:16 PM) CaimsQuill: demon. its a thing
(8:56:44 PM) Abel Jalil:: I kind of figured it came with the package deal.
(8:56:47 PM) CaimsQuill: and well one just argued the crap out of me jealous over you
(8:56:55 PM) CaimsQuill: and it's sort of London
(8:57:22 PM) CaimsQuill: and I think she might have ran off not sure yet. I don’t want to go back to the house to find out. I'm irritated as fuck
(8:57:28 PM) CaimsQuill: because she's my show assistant
(8:57:35 PM) CaimsQuill: I'll have to get a new one
(8:57:49 PM) CaimsQuill: I'm so stressed out
(8:58:06 PM) CaimsQuill: do you know how much work I put into training that girl?
(8:58:17 PM) CaimsQuill: I have shows to perform this weekend
(8:58:29 PM) CaimsQuill: let's stay at your house tonight
(8:58:34 PM) CaimsQuill: I can't deal with it yet
(9:00:41 PM) Abel Jalil:: Alright but here's the question.
(9:01:00 PM) Abel Jalil:: Are you stressed out because she's your main business partner, or because you own her?
(9:03:20 PM) CaimsQuill: both. I need an assistant for the show quick. But I own her ass, I can' t have her making me look like an idiot to the rest of hell. its bad enough she got our kid kidnapped by angel and I've never seen it. If I lose control of her, I'm going to lose some respect to my name I know it. and honestly? I have to admit this to you. I may be president. an Earl. I’m fucking royalty, but my rep is just hanging by a thread all the time.
(9:03:59 PM) Abel Jalil:: Did marrying my really help your rep, Caim?
(9:05:47 PM) CaimsQuill: I don't care about that. Hell's not going to know anything. we used aliases. I can always claim it's just for show. just like the Russian alias thing and Hell won’t be able to prove any different if I stick to my story.
(9:05:58 PM) CaimsQuill: but you and I will always know
(9:06:11 PM) CaimsQuill: that's why I want our real names in those rings
(9:06:20 PM) CaimsQuill: something real
(9:06:35 PM) CaimsQuill: between us. no matter how many centuries go by
(9:06:47 PM) CaimsQuill: and that license long gone
(9:08:37 PM) Abel Jalil:: Heh. I'm just letting it all sink in, I suppose. It's still like I'm dreaming.
(9:08:41 PM) Abel Jalil:: Like, it's really happened.
(9:08:47 PM) Abel Jalil:: And I'm just like 'Wow'.
(9:09:01 PM) CaimsQuill: I just hope you're not terribly disappointed it can't be more real
(9:09:14 PM) CaimsQuill: with Hell at my back, it's the best I can offer
(9:09:52 PM) Abel Jalil:: I know, Caim.
(9:09:53 PM) CaimsQuill: I’m really trying hard here
(9:10:01 PM) Abel Jalil:: And it's wonderful.
(9:10:04 PM) Abel Jalil:: Honestly, it is.
(9:10:29 PM) Abel Jalil:: I know I can never truly have your name. But this is as close as I'm going to get and I know it's real between us.
(9:10:52 PM) CaimsQuill: good. I need to know you know it
(9:12:01 PM) Abel Jalil:: I do, trust me.
(9:12:10 PM) Abel Jalil:: Though I wish some things you didn't have to do.
(9:12:18 PM) Abel Jalil:: However, this is far from a perfect world.
(9:12:34 PM) CaimsQuill: I understand. I can't change who I am though.
(9:12:42 PM) CaimsQuill: you aren't going to get um
(9:12:49 PM) CaimsQuill: tired of it are
(9:14:30 PM) CaimsQuill: you
(9:15:00 PM) Abel Jalil:: How could I? Hahah.
(9:15:03 PM) Abel Jalil:: I am a vampire, Caim.
(9:16:30 PM) CaimsQuill: then its ok for me to say my skin is fucking crawling right now and I need to go out and just fuck with this stupid world over that stupid chick.
(9:16:35 PM) CaimsQuill: I can be that honest?
(9:16:37 PM) CaimsQuill: heh
(9:16:55 PM) CaimsQuill: she's going to drag my name in the fucking dirt I know it
(9:18:44 PM) Abel Jalil:: Why would she, Caim?
(9:18:58 PM) Abel Jalil:: I mean, if you cut her some slack and let her figure herself out.
(9:19:13 PM) Abel Jalil:: How can she truly drag your name down?
(9:19:20 PM) Abel Jalil:: And if there's an angel involved, that's kinda no your best grounds.
(9:21:00 PM) CaimsQuill: she's running man. that's what she said. it's why I don’t feel like dealing in going back to that house tonight. she said she was going to holy grounds with the same damn angels that took my kid. I got news for her though. I'm about to get that damn kid back. I just found my secret in. wanna raise a kid with me? heh. I'm sure I have nannies around.
(9:21:16 PM) CaimsQuill: when Hell sees her with angels while I own her soul
(9:21:20 PM) CaimsQuill: my name is toast
(9:22:18 PM) Abel Jalil:: I...hm. A kid?
(9:22:46 PM) CaimsQuill: yeah I'm telling you. if she really left that house she's about to get a big surprise when she gets to her destination
(9:22:55 PM) CaimsQuill: this won’t go her way
(9:22:57 PM) Abel Jalil:: I thought demons didn't do kids?
(9:25:24 PM) CaimsQuill: since when have I been your average demon? I'm old as the sun and have only had 12 kids. half of which are deceased. one is in a brass vessel on my fireplace because he's an ass. one never leaves his room. one really isn’t' mine, adopted, he's more like a lab experiment. and then there's that one, I'm getting her back because I'm a laughing stock.
(9:26:32 PM) CaimsQuill: compare that to the other demons
(9:26:36 PM) CaimsQuill: countless kids
(9:26:40 PM) CaimsQuill: like uncountable
(9:26:46 PM) CaimsQuill: I really don’t fuck around like that
(9:27:38 PM) Abel Jalil:: Awww...one big, happy family, Caim? How cute. Do you keep your numbers small because you are so picky? Or does the great demon lack with the ladies? Hahaha!
(9:28:08 PM) CaimsQuill: I am picky actually.
(9:28:13 PM) CaimsQuill: lol
(9:28:18 PM) CaimsQuill: funny you lol
(9:28:40 PM) CaimsQuill: and I’m more a guys guy anyway.
(9:28:58 PM) Abel Jalil:: That explains why you can't even handle one girl turning you away.
(9:29:29 PM) Abel Jalil:: I would say you should be a man and suck it up, puppet, but you do enough sucking on your own count.
(9:29:49 PM) Abel Jalil:: Why he continues to settle for you, I will never know.
(9:30:33 PM) CaimsQuill: ...
(9:30:36 PM) CaimsQuill: Dante hi
(9:30:41 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hi, sweetie. Hahahah!
(9:30:56 PM) CaimsQuill: guess what Dante baby. we're married
(9:31:52 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hmm..
(9:32:08 PM) Abel Jalil:: Wonder if he'll squirm when I chop those particular fingers off?
(9:32:09 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hahaha
(9:32:16 PM) Abel Jalil:: You're not married, idiot.
(9:32:22 PM) Abel Jalil:: Demons can't really get married.
(9:32:26 PM) Abel Jalil:: Neither can corpses.
(9:32:44 PM) Abel Jalil:: Keep dreaming you're little bubble world, you pathetic little wench.
(9:32:55 PM) Abel Jalil:: *your)
(9:33:03 PM) Abel Jalil:: Though I'm impressed.
(9:33:12 PM) Abel Jalil:: He kept me contained in my own home.
(9:33:16 PM) Abel Jalil:: Ironic,really.
(9:33:19 PM) Abel Jalil:: But you helped him.
(9:33:25 PM) CaimsQuill: I did?
(9:33:29 PM) Abel Jalil:: Always the little helper..
(9:33:30 PM) Abel Jalil:: Mmm...
(9:33:48 PM) Abel Jalil:: He draws a lot of sickeningly sweet energy from you and your disgusting sap talk.
(9:34:20 PM) Abel Jalil:: Honestly, I want to stab my own eyes out just so he'll stop with these ridiculous little dreams.
(9:34:55 PM) Abel Jalil:: Do you know how incredibly hard it is to sit back and watch your body used by some weak worm of a creature?
(9:35:25 PM) CaimsQuill: yeah, I hear ya. we're all sweet and oogly. got it. and no I'm afraid I don't know. I'm usually the one that possesses others
(9:35:30 PM) CaimsQuill: demon
(9:35:31 PM) Abel Jalil:: He really should of kept you away. I thought this little train wreck was going to be a fun ride before I'd get my cozy chair back.
(9:35:32 PM) CaimsQuill: it's a thing
(9:36:03 PM) CaimsQuill: so Dante. you're pissed, I'm pissed. we both have issues.
(9:36:10 PM) CaimsQuill: when the fuck are we really gonna out
(9:36:23 PM) CaimsQuill: and terrorize some shit together
(9:36:25 PM) Abel Jalil:: I don't care about your stupid girl problems.
(9:36:55 PM) CaimsQuill: of course you dont. you don’t care about anything but if it gets you a partner in crime why not?
(9:37:08 PM) CaimsQuill: give it a shot
(9:37:12 PM) Abel Jalil:: You are no partner in crime.
(9:37:21 PM) Abel Jalil:: You are a partner in pathetic sob stories.
(9:37:31 PM) Abel Jalil:: And a horrible excuse for a demon.
(9:37:34 PM) Abel Jalil:: Gods...
(9:37:39 PM) Abel Jalil:: I'm in the wrong species.
(9:37:58 PM) CaimsQuill: riiiiiiiiiight right. I have no real use at all. You really don't have a clue what I do in my time away from abel do you
(9:38:15 PM) Abel Jalil:: If you want to terrorize, as you put it, what are you going to do about your sweetums?
(9:38:27 PM) Abel Jalil:: Again, my disinterest is so strong, I might gag.
(9:38:45 PM) CaimsQuill: my sweetums is apparently stuck in you and along for the ride
(9:39:02 PM) CaimsQuill: come on. you summon me for something.
(9:39:15 PM) Abel Jalil:: I should make you kill that child of yours.
(9:39:16 PM) CaimsQuill: let’s finally put our powers together
(9:39:19 PM) Abel Jalil:: How poetic.
(9:39:35 PM) CaimsQuill: I wish I could sometimes
(9:39:46 PM) CaimsQuill: but I won’t be able to touch the damn thing
(9:39:50 PM) Abel Jalil:: Really?
(9:40:00 PM) CaimsQuill: stupid angels blessed it. it's like a holy object now
(9:40:00 PM) Abel Jalil:: How unsurprising.
(9:40:07 PM) CaimsQuill: it's a thorn in my side
(9:40:17 PM) CaimsQuill: hence need to go out and fuck up some shit
(9:40:30 PM) CaimsQuill: my brain is on fire
(9:40:44 PM) Abel Jalil:: Are you saying you want to murder with me?
(9:40:51 PM) Abel Jalil:: Ravage some poor, innocent soul?
(9:40:56 PM) CaimsQuill: yeah pretty much
(9:41:00 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hahaahah!
(9:41:03 PM) Abel Jalil:: Mmm...
(9:41:31 PM) CaimsQuill: actually. I have a great gift I think you might be impressed with. I know you hardly are but check this out
(9:42:36 PM) CaimsQuill: I now have a replica of the colliseum in Rome and am in the middle of the 100 days of battles for the grand opening just like at the original one. only this one has hell beasts and supers of all kinds fighting.
(9:42:41 PM) CaimsQuill: you might enjoy it
(9:42:54 PM) CaimsQuill: it's a good show. I participate sometimes
(9:42:57 PM) Abel Jalil:: I might enjoy throwing you in the middle of it.
(9:43:07 PM) CaimsQuill: I already to it voluntarily.
(9:43:30 PM) Abel Jalil:: Actually, I think I'd rather trap everyone inside and watch it crumble.
(9:43:33 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hmm...
(9:43:51 PM) CaimsQuill: good luck. the place it made of magic
(9:43:57 PM) Abel Jalil:: Mm.
(9:44:01 PM) CaimsQuill: if you do I'll be impressed though
(9:44:08 PM) Abel Jalil:: Like your little marriage dreams, how cute.
(9:44:19 PM) CaimsQuill: hardy har
(9:44:25 PM) Abel Jalil:: Oh come on now.
(9:44:32 PM) Abel Jalil:: I think it's amusing.
(9:44:32 PM) CaimsQuill: why is it I can enjoy your wit
(9:44:39 PM) CaimsQuill: I really do
(9:44:42 PM) Abel Jalil:: You, him- all together.
(9:44:47 PM) Abel Jalil:: Sweet and perfect and so...
(9:44:49 PM) Abel Jalil:: Gag inducing.
(9:44:57 PM) Abel Jalil:: I can't wait for the fall out.
(9:45:04 PM) Abel Jalil:: I'm sure it will be brilliant.
(9:45:09 PM) Abel Jalil:: Maybe like a dying star.
(9:45:13 PM) Abel Jalil:: Wonderful.
(9:45:14 PM) Abel Jalil:: Oh
(9:45:19 PM) Abel Jalil:: And that tramp of yours?
(9:45:23 PM) Abel Jalil:: The blonde girl?
(9:45:30 PM) CaimsQuill: what about her
(9:45:36 PM) Abel Jalil:: Why are you even bothering with that dumb shell?
(9:45:52 PM) Abel Jalil:: She would be fun to rip into pieces, though...
(9:45:57 PM) CaimsQuill: she's a whore apparently. I'm not bothering with her. I only need her back for my rep. I could care less
(9:45:59 PM) Abel Jalil:: I bet her guts would taste wonderful.
(9:46:16 PM) Abel Jalil:: Your reputation can fuck it's self.
(9:46:18 PM) Abel Jalil:: Repeatedly.
(9:46:38 PM) CaimsQuill: it pretty much does. and fucks me over too. but what's new. that should make you happy
(9:46:48 PM) Abel Jalil:: Wrong.
(9:46:57 PM) Abel Jalil:: Abel's misery makes me happy.
(9:47:01 PM) Abel Jalil:: Blood makes me happy.
(9:47:08 PM) Abel Jalil:: Death, rape, murder, chaos.
(9:47:16 PM) Abel Jalil:: Those are a few of my favorite things.
(9:47:47 PM) CaimsQuill: hmm. so let’s go cause some. I'm sure it won’t make him happy to know we are. but hey, he did say he'll take whatever comes with the territory right?
(9:47:53 PM) CaimsQuill: let's put it to the test
(9:48:20 PM) CaimsQuill: you hate that you want to take me up on this don’t you
(9:49:04 PM) Abel Jalil:: ...Perhaps.
(9:49:22 PM) Abel Jalil:: And perhaps I want a reason to shove my fist in your guts and see what comes out.
(9:49:40 PM) CaimsQuill: yeah yeah yeah. what's new turn me inside if you must
(9:49:40 PM) Abel Jalil:: I would love to tear you apart slowly.
(9:49:55 PM) CaimsQuill: not like I'm not used to it by now
(9:50:02 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hm...your lack of flattery is insulting.
(9:50:31 PM) CaimsQuill: you know when you first summoned me I was so impressed and excited.
(9:50:40 PM) CaimsQuill: maybe I kinda still am
(9:51:02 PM) Abel Jalil:: I am.......bored with this place and this body.
(9:51:09 PM) Abel Jalil:: Bored with you.
(9:51:32 PM) CaimsQuill: that's why we should go find new blood. spice it up Dante come on
(9:51:48 PM) CaimsQuill: can’t you feel it? I could take you back
(9:52:00 PM) CaimsQuill: to Italy in a millisecond
(9:52:06 PM) Abel Jalil:: Mm...home.
(9:52:12 PM) CaimsQuill: use me
(9:52:17 PM) CaimsQuill: I want it
(9:52:23 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hahah.
(9:52:30 PM) Abel Jalil:: This was never about what you want, maggot.
(9:52:48 PM) CaimsQuill: here's your problem
(9:53:03 PM) CaimsQuill: I actually want almost everything you want
(9:53:24 PM) Abel Jalil:: Remind me when I begin to care about the thoughts that run through your little brain.
(9:53:27 PM) CaimsQuill: we actually agree on everything except one minor thing
(9:53:35 PM) CaimsQuill: GOD
(9:53:38 PM) CaimsQuill: DAMN
(9:53:40 PM) CaimsQuill: DANTE
(9:53:46 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hahahahahaha!
(9:54:01 PM) Abel Jalil:: Such a pretty toy.
(9:54:19 PM) CaimsQuill: you just winding me up too
(9:54:44 PM) Abel Jalil:: Perhaps you should go with your son in the vase.
(9:54:47 PM) Abel Jalil:: Mmm...
(9:54:52 PM) Abel Jalil:: At least he was attractive.
(9:55:33 PM) CaimsQuill: he did get that passed for sure. the vessel pft. been there. done that.
(9:55:42 PM) CaimsQuill: king Solomon can kiss my ass
(9:55:53 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hahaha.
(9:56:03 PM) Abel Jalil:: Shame he's trapped....
(9:56:08 PM) Abel Jalil:: I would have had some fun with him.
(9:56:30 PM) CaimsQuill: I would have liked that
(9:56:48 PM) CaimsQuill: you know he actually thought to kill you
(9:56:54 PM) CaimsQuill: I was like uhhhhhhhhhh no
(9:57:00 PM) Abel Jalil:: Hahah!
(9:57:33 PM) Abel Jalil:: I would have had him chained to a wall. That boy deserved his share of whips against his pretty skin.
(9:58:20 PM) CaimsQuill: oh. he got his alright. next time I trap someone for centuries I'll be sure to let you have at them first
(9:58:34 PM) Abel Jalil:: Mm...
(10:00:51 PM) CaimsQuill: Abel still in there?
(10:01:04 PM) CaimsQuill: Abel
(10:01:06 PM) CaimsQuill: ABEL
(10:01:36 PM) CaimsQuill: Adrian Jalil calling Abel Jalil.
(10:02:12 PM) Abel Jalil:: Sorry-
(10:02:14 PM) Abel Jalil:: Jesus
(10:02:15 PM) Abel Jalil:: sorry
(10:02:17 PM) Abel Jalil:: sorry
(10:02:19 PM) Abel Jalil:: ach
(10:02:29 PM) CaimsQuill: that really you Abel?
(10:02:50 PM) Abel Jalil:: If I could figure out how a web camera works, I'd prove it. Heh.
(10:02:53 PM) Abel Jalil:: But yes, love.
(10:02:56 PM) Abel Jalil:: Sorry.
(10:03:15 PM) CaimsQuill: well you can see the log. Can Dante still see right now
(10:03:37 PM) Abel Jalil:: I don't know. Maybe. I feel like he's just sort of....lurking.
(10:04:42 PM) CaimsQuill: hmmm. well... idk. I just figure, if we're working together some, ya know... less time to make us completely miserable? heh.
(10:05:00 PM) CaimsQuill: you know I don't rape people right?
(10:05:09 PM) CaimsQuill: that's like a thing
(10:05:11 PM) CaimsQuill: of mine
(10:05:14 PM) CaimsQuill: demon or not
(10:05:31 PM) Abel Jalil:: Then you shouldn't let Dante lead you.
(10:05:34 PM) Abel Jalil:: It's something we.
(10:05:36 PM) Abel Jalil:: Er.
(10:05:38 PM) Abel Jalil:: he?
(10:05:39 PM) Abel Jalil:: I?
(10:05:41 PM) Abel Jalil:: He?
(10:05:45 PM) Abel Jalil:: I suppose it's he.
(10:05:55 PM) CaimsQuill: yeah I know. but it's not like he can force my cock up either
(10:05:58 PM) Abel Jalil:: Well, something he did.
(10:06:06 PM) Abel Jalil:: True...
(10:06:22 PM) CaimsQuill: he'll have to deal with murder and chaos
(10:06:23 PM) CaimsQuill: heh
(10:06:26 PM) CaimsQuill: oh poor baby
(10:07:34 PM) Abel Jalil:: I um...
(10:07:36 PM) Abel Jalil:: I'm sorry.
(10:07:39 PM) Abel Jalil:: For how he is.
(10:08:12 PM) CaimsQuill: I know babe. don't stress it.
(10:08:20 PM) CaimsQuill: I can take it
(10:08:23 PM) CaimsQuill: really
(10:08:41 PM) CaimsQuill: you gotta deal with my shit. well he's part of your package
(10:08:54 PM) CaimsQuill: I'm ok with that
(10:17:30 PM) Abel Jalil:: Good.
(10:19:26 PM) CaimsQuill: omg babe babe
(10:19:30 PM) CaimsQuill: !!!!!!!!
(10:19:36 PM) CaimsQuill: LOOK AT THIS
(10:19:45 PM) CaimsQuill: http://realestate.boston.com/sales/deta
(10:19:46 PM) Abel Jalil:: What, what??
(10:24:08 PM) CaimsQuill: soooooooooooooooooo?
(10:24:15 PM) CaimsQuill: whatdoyouthink?