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Daphne Greengrass ([info]_frigidity) wrote in [info]thedoorway,
@ 2012-12-19 20:21:00

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Entry tags:!network post, daphne greengrass, humberto lopez / reptil (616), julie power / lightspeed (616), tobias eaton

It amazes me that Muggles are so consumed with spending beyond their means that there are numerous multibillion dollar companies whose business model relies on the interest generated by charging the people who are unable to pay off the bills collected on their credit cards.

Is it really that rampant? I can scarcely imagine it.



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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-20 04:30 am UTC (link)
I'm beginning to sense that this 'muggle' word is typically used in a derogatory fashion.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-20 04:33 am UTC (link)
It's the term we use for people who aren't wizards.

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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-20 04:35 am UTC (link)
Right, so in other words, about half the people here.

There is no magic whatsoever in my world, and we also lack the consumer culture present here, so I wouldn't say this is a universally muggle phenomenon.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-20 05:11 am UTC (link)
Only half?

What's your world like?

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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-20 08:58 pm UTC (link)
I'd estimate about that- there are plenty of people here, after all, who might not be magical but have other comparable supernatural powers.

Civil society was essentially destroyed as a result of war, and in response to the destruction and chaos, Chicago gated itself off from the world and attempted a type of experiment to destroy man's capacity for evil. The population was divided into five factions, each which valued some sort of noble characteristic, and it's the opposite of that characteristic that they blamed the most for the world's problems. The factions are Abnegation (selflessness), Amity (kindness), Candor (honesty), Dauntless (bravery), and Erudite (intelligence). People live their lives by these values and one's job is also geared towards their faction. As there is no faction that values entertainment, we have a considerably less materialistic society than the one here.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-21 03:38 am UTC (link)
I suppose you have a fair point.

Oh, how absolutely horrifying. And that one characteristic is all they live by? It sounds horribly...limiting. Which one are you from?

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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-21 03:54 am UTC (link)
It worked fine for decades and it wasn't a bad way to live, really- just different. It did fall apart into something rather horrifying though, I'll admit. I suppose there wouldn't be books if it didn't.

I'm from Dauntless, but I was- It is rather limiting. I don't entirely agree with the faction system, to be honest. There are some people who are considered divergent which means they have more flexible minds than most. You don't have to remain in the faction you're born into, however. You can switch, so it's at least not so restrictive in that sense.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-21 04:14 am UTC (link)
Somehow I'm not surprised. At Hogwarts we have the House system, where we're divided into Houses depending on our traits. And so an entire House was villainised as evil backstabbers.

Do people really switch? Or is there too much pressure to remain loyal to their factions?

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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-21 04:23 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I've heard other people mentioning the house system- did you like it? There was a lot of stereotyping and villainizing in my time too- people tend to exaggerate the importance of their faction trait while putting down the others, when really, people should probably strive to be selfless, kind, honest, brave, and intelligent if they're going to bother to strive towards being anything.

It depends on the faction, but generally there are always a good number of kids who did. I actually switched, and so it was my job to train all the transfer initiates each year. Dauntless normally has a good number of transfers, but they don't all make it through.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-23 03:41 am UTC (link)
I did and I didn't. What I disliked most was that people automatically dismissed my House as being full of villains without even getting to know any of us. They're even doing it here, even if they haven't even gone to school with us.

Why don't they make it through?

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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-23 04:04 am UTC (link)
I can understand that. Well, I personally don't place much faith in those types of systems to tell you what a person's really like.

There are only ten spots for both Dauntless born and transfer initiates combined. The initiation rigorously tests both your physical strength as well as your psychological strength to fight your fears. Based on these tests, initiates are ranked, and anyone who scores below a 11 doesn't make it in to the faction.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-23 04:10 am UTC (link)
You're one of the rare ones.

I'm not sure if I understand correctly. There are only ten Dauntless at a time? Is it the same for all the others? Are there only 50 people left, or are the others categorized differently?

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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-23 04:15 am UTC (link)
No, there are just only ten new members of Dauntless each year in addition to those who are already members, such as myself, for instance. As for the other factions, I know Erudite also has a rigorous initiation which numerous people fail. Abnegation and Amity, however, accept virtually all who wish to join them. I'm not certain about Candor.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-23 04:17 am UTC (link)
Oh, per year. I must have missed that.

This must be very different for you.

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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-23 04:22 am UTC (link)
It is, but I don't believe people should be divided the way that they are in my world, so I don't mind that difference. The city in general is a bit much at times though.

It must be different for you as well. How do you like it?

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-23 04:42 am UTC (link)
I don't like it at all. There are no good tea shoppes; people seem intent on judging me based on a book I barely appear in; the financial system of this country is a completely incomprehensible mess; and I miss my family.

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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-23 04:47 am UTC (link)
Hopefully you'll learn to tolerate or we'll all be home soon. I certainly don't envy the popularity of your books.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-23 04:48 am UTC (link)
So do I. But I appreciate the sentiment all the same.

I'm Daphne, by the way.

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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-23 04:52 am UTC (link)
I'm Four- nice to meet you, Daphne.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-23 04:54 am UTC (link)
Just Four? Does everyone have numbers for names where you're from?

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[info]onlyfour
2012-12-23 04:56 am UTC (link)
No, we're not that weird. It's actually a nickname, I don't really go by my given name.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-23 04:58 am UTC (link)
I see.

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[info]axtogrind
2012-12-20 04:33 am UTC (link)
Welcome to Earth, princess.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-20 04:34 am UTC (link)
I was on earth. Now I'm in America.

And the consumerist society is absolutely fascinating.

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[info]axtogrind
2012-12-20 04:36 am UTC (link)
What part of Earth were you from before?

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-20 05:12 am UTC (link)
The wizarding world, in England.

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[info]acceleration
2012-12-20 05:10 pm UTC (link)
This will be interesting.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-21 03:39 am UTC (link)
Who are you, exactly?

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[info]acceleration
2012-12-21 03:40 am UTC (link)
Julie Power, a proud Muggle.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-21 03:42 am UTC (link)
Well, I didn't think you were a witch.

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[info]acceleration
2012-12-21 03:43 am UTC (link)
You never know here. I could've been.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-21 04:07 am UTC (link)
I think I would've heard of a witch who looks exactly like me.

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[info]acceleration
2012-12-21 04:11 am UTC (link)
God I'd hope so. Unless she lived in a completely different country. I'm American too, so there's that.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-21 04:15 am UTC (link)
Oh, of course you are.

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[info]acceleration
2012-12-21 04:18 am UTC (link)
What's that supposed to mean?

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[info]mollycarpenter
2012-12-20 08:02 pm UTC (link)
Man, you bitches really give magic practitioners a bad name.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-21 03:40 am UTC (link)
I beg your pardon?

Have I done anything horribly rude such as go into a stranger's journal and call her names?

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[info]mollycarpenter
2012-12-21 02:13 pm UTC (link)
Yes. Duh. Did you read your own post before you clicked the little "Let me share my opinion with everybody" button?

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-23 03:34 am UTC (link)
And what is the matter with expressing my observation on consumerist society?

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[info]mollycarpenter
2012-12-23 05:46 am UTC (link)
It's the part where you say Muggles are consumerist, like there aren't any wizards who are obsessed with accumulation. Not only is that rude, it's stupid and obviously false.

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[info]reptilsaur
2012-12-21 12:37 am UTC (link)
I'm guessing you're from Harry Potter if you're calling people muggles. I'm Humberto, I'm roommates with your face twin.

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[info]_frigidity
2012-12-21 03:42 am UTC (link)
Oh please. He scarcely had anything to do with me, thank Merlin for that.

I'm Daphne Greengrass. I do hope you'll be able to tell us apart.

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