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Kell Maresh (antari) wrote in thedisplaced,
@ 2018-05-07 20:27:00

Entry tags:

!network post, elsa bloodstone (616), holland vosijk, kell maresh, loki odinson (mcu), margo hanson, marina andrieski, ronan lynch, sam winchester

I'd like to issue a warning for anyone who comes into contact with Holland Vosijk. He's a dangerous magician who, in the past, has endeavored to kill me, my family, and destroy my world. Please be wary of the information you provide him with.

Ronan

Gansey had been speaking to Holland, and it concerns me.

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filtered against holland.

bornunder
2018-05-08 12:42 am UTC (link)

There's not a lot of information available about him on the internet. Do you mind if I look into some of your source material for more? Or would you rather tell me more about his powers/weaknesses?

I appreciate the warning. When dangerous people have shown up from my world, I had to give them the "fresh start" that people here insisted they could have, but the displaced did also support me when things went wrong with them. And I'll do the same for you.

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	kell+sam bornunder 2018-05-08 08:48 pm UTC (link)
	There's no point in arguing with Elsa. You'll likely only end up frustrated. This is what happened when I informed people that I was worried about a demon - who is also still here. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	filtered against holland. antari 2018-05-08 11:57 pm UTC (link)
	Please feel free, Sam. His powers are quite like mine, though. He has more experience in general than I did, but particularly when it comes to fighting. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	filtered against holland. bornunder 2018-05-09 12:41 am UTC (link)
	Alright. I'll try to not to invade your privacy, as much as possible. He's just one person, still. There are a lot of powerful people here who would help to stop him, if it was needed. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	filtered against holland. antari 2018-05-09 12:42 am UTC (link)
	I know. I'd just rather not give him the chance to hurt anyone else. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	filtered against holland. bornunder 2018-05-09 12:48 am UTC (link)
	Believe me, I understand. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Sam antari 2018-05-09 01:12 am UTC (link)
	I didn't think such a statement would cause controversy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Kell+Sam

bornunder
2018-05-09 03:02 am UTC (link)

The principle of it, as I understand it, is that it sets a dangerous precedent to take any steps against a new arrival based on their crimes at home, because many people here have made bad choices, or broken the law, and so they see themselves in someone like Holland who might be denied a fresh start.

But it's also hard to be in your position and have equally personal reasons to want to prevent him from hurting people, based on your past experience with him. I guess I can see both sides of the argument - I've made some disastrous mistakes, myself, and I appreciate the "fresh start", but I also have had to sit and wait for the literal devil to actually hurt someone before I was allowed to do anything about having him here, even though I knew full well it was going to happen.

It still worked out alright, though, because people here did come around. So try not to worry too much about them.

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	elliebloodstone 2018-05-08 01:06 am UTC (link)
	Who hasn't nearly destroyed a world or two? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	voxt 2018-05-08 03:23 am UTC (link)
	Careful, you're making yourself sound even worse than me. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	elliebloodstone 2018-05-08 07:44 pm UTC (link)
	I'm sure everyone knows by now not to expect me to give a shit about interpersonal drama. He can just avoid you like everyone else who's been a victim of some big bad here does. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	voxt 2018-05-08 08:39 pm UTC (link)
	For all that his judgment may be compromised by emotion, there is some logic behind his concern for public safety. Even I won't argue with that. But I suppose if you also don't 'give a shit' about world destruction, then you could also easily avoid him, probably even more easily than he can avoid me. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	elliebloodstone 2018-05-08 08:41 pm UTC (link)
	Depends if you actually intend to destroy this world as well. Most people don't. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	voxt 2018-05-08 08:45 pm UTC (link)
	I don't. It would not serve any purpose. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	elliebloodstone 2018-05-08 08:51 pm UTC (link)
	It so rarely does. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	voxt 2018-05-08 08:53 pm UTC (link)
	Has it served your purposes in the past? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	elliebloodstone 2018-05-08 08:59 pm UTC (link)
	Not personally, but if he's squeamish about people with a history of it he should know that this is hardly the first bloody time one's turned up. Shockingly few of them are motivated by shits and giggles. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	voxt 2018-05-08 10:16 pm UTC (link)
	I can think of at least three, offhand, who would cause immense destruction just for power, regardless of what world they're in. (Reply to this) (Parent)

andrieski
2018-05-08 06:44 am UTC (link)

It sounds mostly like he doesn't like you. I guess there's something to be said about saying it where everyone can see it. Like maybe you like getting killed a little. See, I'd worry about that, but then I don't have to because I also have alarmist acquaintances who have to protect me from everyone.

I'm not sure what's more ~~exhausting~~ boring: people wanting to kill you or living in anticipation of people wanting to kill you and no one trying to kill you.

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	antari 2018-05-08 11:58 pm UTC (link)
	Well, most people don't try to kill they like, I believe. Do with the information what you want. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	andrieski 2018-05-09 05:22 am UTC (link)
	That really depends on the person, though. Maybe he actually really really likes you to an obsessive degree and figures if he can't have you, no one can. Go big or go home. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mister_doctor 2018-05-08 09:42 am UTC (link)
	I need to know more details. What happened, exactly? (Reply to this) (Thread)

Dr. Strange

antari
2018-05-09 12:00 am UTC (link)

Within the universe that Holland and I come from, it's divided into four different worlds, each of which has a London. Holland comes from what we call White London while I am from Red. We are the only two of our kind who can travel between these worlds.

Holland was grievously injured in Black London, where he made a deal with a magic demon called Osaron to lend him his body so they could leave Black London and return to White, where Osaron helped magic flourish. However, when Holland realized how dangerous Osaron really was, he told Osaron that he would convince me to allow Osaron to possess me and then allow Osaron to consume my London.

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	Kell Maresh mister_doctor 2018-05-09 12:08 am UTC (link)
	I see. Have you communicated with Holland since his arrival? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Dr. Strange antari 2018-05-09 12:41 am UTC (link)
	Yes. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Kell Maresh mister_doctor 2018-05-09 01:35 am UTC (link)
	And how did that go? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	hashertricks 2018-05-08 01:12 pm UTC (link)
	Now doesn't that sound familiar? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	antari 2018-05-09 12:00 am UTC (link)
	Does it? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	hashertricks 2018-05-09 12:27 am UTC (link)
	Oh yes. One might even say it's my biography. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	antari 2018-05-09 12:43 am UTC (link)
	Well, I'm glad to hear you're proud of that. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	hashertricks 2018-05-09 12:45 am UTC (link)
	Now who said that? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	antari 2018-05-09 01:12 am UTC (link)
	That's not something you share readily with strangers otherwise, is it? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	hashertricks 2018-05-09 01:57 am UTC (link)
	It is merely a statement of fact. Besides, my brother got over it. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Loki \| Stephen mister_doctor 2018-05-09 12:09 am UTC (link)
	I'd like to give this Holland the benefit of the doubt, much the same way it was granted you. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Loki \| Stephen hashertricks 2018-05-09 12:29 am UTC (link)
	That's ironic coming from you, Doctor. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Loki \| Stephen mister_doctor 2018-05-09 01:37 am UTC (link)
	Why? You have proven yourself here on more than one occasion. Does it surprise you that one may change their opinion? You are no longer deemed a threat. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Loki \| Stephen hashertricks 2018-05-09 01:58 am UTC (link)
	And you're the one who dropped me into an endless fall the moment you realized I was on Earth. For which I still haven't forgiven you, by the way. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Loki \| Stephen mister_doctor 2018-05-09 02:04 am UTC (link)
	Loki. Get over it. It was a precautionary measure. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Loki \| Stephen hashertricks 2018-05-09 02:27 am UTC (link)
	No. I don't think I'm in the mood to "get over it," thank you very much. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Loki \| Stephen mister_doctor 2018-05-10 08:32 pm UTC (link)
	Then don't drag me into your mood. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Loki \| Stephen hashertricks 2018-05-10 08:34 pm UTC (link)
	Back to the issue of this Holland fellow, what do you propose? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ovaryup 2018-05-09 03:01 am UTC (link)
	Was it a personal vendetta? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	antari 2018-05-09 03:04 am UTC (link)
	No. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kell+ronan chainsawheart 2018-05-09 03:30 am UTC (link)
	What? Why? (Reply to this)