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04nbod (04nbod) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-06 14:25:00

Current music:	Sick Sad Little World- Incubus
Entry tags:	char: flamebird/thara ak-var, char: supergirl/kara zor-el, creator: fernando dagnino, creator: greg rucka, creator: sterling gates, publisher: dc comics, title: superman

Supergirl and Flamebird:Secret Files

The story Starts with Kara questioning Thara about where she was when her father was killed. Thara says she can't tell her. (because she was playing Flamebird I guess) Thara thinks back to when they were kids on Krypton.

On the path they are surrounded by wildlife and have to escape an imposing beast. They finally get to the fire falls and Kara wants to show thara the flammable juice inside the blood blooms but the one they find is dead and the juice is dried up. Thara kneels down to pray and Kara goes looking for live blooms but as she reaches for a group the beast from the path returns.

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	04nbod 2009-09-06 03:41 pm UTC (link)
	Well I don't think that matters because this is the post-52/infinite crisis Krypton that they are creating as a mish mash of all the others they have ever done. Its my favourite version so far, I don't think any fan gets left out. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

icon_uk
2009-09-06 10:44 pm UTC (link)

Aside from those who actually like the Byrne version, showing Krypton not as "just another alien planet with just plain folks on it despite the tech", but as an alien, imperfect world where emotion was dead and so Kal's life would have been wasted in their xenophobic arrogance, and where Jor-El's love for Lara would have been viewed as unnatural.

It also allowed for "Superman was born on Earth", which I just prefer.

This new take on Krypton, and Kara etc just leaves me cold...

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04nbod
2009-09-06 11:40 pm UTC (link)

This version is still imperfect, there is severe class warfare and a history of british-like colonialism. The 'emotion is dead' angle doesn't work for me, leave that to Brainiac and Colu, they had been using that since the 60's it wasn't original. Krypton in the silver age seemed like a cautionary tale for humanity and kal was the messenger to show them what their own arrogance and warfare could do.

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icon_uk
2009-09-07 09:33 am UTC (link)

This version is still imperfect, there is severe class warfare and a history of british-like colonialism.

Well, that's my point, we can already see examples of that from Earth history, making Krypton DIFFERENTLY screwed up (AFAIK, Earth has never had a viable culture which distanced itself from emotions like that) made it truly alien. As it is, we're getting something more akin to a standard Trek alien-society-that's-a-reflection-of-our-own of the week.

The 'emotion is dead' angle doesn't work for me, leave that to Brainiac and Colu, they had been using that since the 60's it wasn't original.

IIRC, not really. Coluan's WERE emotional, that's why the Computer Tyrants took over from them and they fought to be free. Silver Age B5 was emotional as all get out, screwed up, but emotional. Colu as coldly logical IIRC only goes back as far as the Zero Hour reboot. B2 was a basket case in his own right.

Krypton in the silver age seemed like a cautionary tale for humanity and kal was the messenger to show them what their own arrogance and warfare could do.

Silver Age Krypton was pretty close to a perfect society. There was no hunger, no deprivation, no class struggle or racial prejudice, and the only problems came from a criminal element who were usually chucked into the ultimate oubliette, the Phantom Zone, exiled into a position where they could do no harm.

Only the contrived "No no, we mustn't listen to our own acknowledged most brilliant scientist, despite being a world based on the wonderfulness of science" can be seen as a real flaw and that has never quite worked as an argument to me (My six year old mind on reading Superman comics was just plain ANNOYED at the stupid Kryptonians)

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	jlbarnett 2009-09-15 02:58 am UTC (link)
	Jor-El wasn't the best. He was one member of a group of the best, and the others disagreed with his findings. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlbarnett 2009-09-07 12:38 am UTC (link)
	All I know is many didn't like Krypton out Vulcaning Vulcan. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	bluefall 2009-09-07 04:59 am UTC (link)
	I don't care for Byrne's Krypton, but "Clark took an entire adolescence to absorb enough sunlight to actually have powers" makes me several billion times happier than "give 'em three days." Plus 52 is still in continuity, right? So it's contradictory regardless, whether Byrne's canon is still active or not. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	khamelea 2009-09-07 07:27 am UTC (link)
	The "just plain folks" thing doesn't do it for me either, at all. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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