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batmanexaminer (batmanexaminer) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-01 12:39:00

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char: spider-man/peter parker, publisher: marvel comics

Answering some of your Disney questions
For some of you wondering what the Disney buying Marvel is going to mean, hopefully this will answer some of your questions.

The rest is all guessing....

For legality...

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	blake_reitz 2009-09-01 05:08 pm UTC (link)
	I didn't even make it to the article. I got to the picture, then flinched. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	vignettelante 2009-09-01 05:22 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, same here. >.> (Reply to this) (Parent)

	seriousfic 2009-09-01 05:46 pm UTC (link)
	C'mon, we all know Rabbit is the one Tigger's in love with. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2009-09-01 08:21 pm UTC (link)
	oh, good, it's not just me then. (Reply to this) (Parent)

angelophile
2009-09-01 05:25 pm UTC (link)

I gotta say I was surprised to read that Marvel only made $100m last year given the massive brand awareness of their characters. Okay, so there wasn't a big movie this year, but even so, the year Iron Man came out Marvel still only took $200m. That makes the $4b Disney paid for the company look generous. (And given the $1.5b drop in Disney's market value yesterday, apparently the markets agree). On the other hand, it makes it clear that Marvel have simply not been able to exploit licensing opportunities half as well as you'd expect them to, given the public awareness of their characters. Something Disney are definitely in a position to do. That's most likely where the big changes are going to occur.

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wizardru
2009-09-01 05:52 pm UTC (link)

Why does that surprise you? Did you think they were earning billions of dollars in profit? Comic books are a NICHE for of entertainment. They are expensive, too. Marvel makes a good chunk of its profits from toys, licensing fees and from dvd/movie sales.

Considering the state of the economy, they're actually performing pretty well. Last year was a banner year for them (Iron Man beating a LOT of projections) and this years profits aren't off much from 2007. Keep in mind that while Marvel might sell a half-billion in toys, that doesn't translate into massive profits.

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	arilou_skiff 2009-09-01 08:07 pm UTC (link)
	Oh yes, but I'd figured their movies would have made more. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

wizardru
2009-09-01 08:18 pm UTC (link)

Their movies made a LOT of money...but Marvel Enterprises doesn't see a lot of that. They didn't produce the movie. Marvel Entertainment only has about 250 employees and a LOT of freelancers.

More importantly, to FUND those films, Marvel took out a $525 MILLION dollar loan, which it's still paying off. Iron Man made a lot of money, but Marvel had to pay everyone to make it and share the profits with lots of folks (including Paramount, the distributor).

Keep in mind also that Marvel went bankrupt a few years back and is in litigation with a bunch of folks, not the least of whom is Stan Lee, who's suing for FIVE BILLION. That's one reason Marvel keeps a few hundred million in operating cash around.

The shocking truth is that Marvel really isn't that big of a company. They're big for a little media company with a lot of cultural cache...but at the end of the day, they're tiny compared to most.

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	angelophile 2009-09-01 09:19 pm UTC (link)
	It's basically the licensing I figured they'd be making more of, given how deep the market awareness of their characters is, although I was expecting more from the movie biz too, seeing as Wolverine was out this year. But given the HUGE brand awareness and multiple licensing deals Marvel has, that seems relatively small. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	janegray 2009-09-01 08:22 pm UTC (link)
	the year Iron Man came out Marvel still only took $200m Possibly because, IMHO, the IM movie was far, far, *FAR* better than any IM comic I've ever read. It rather sad that Hollywood understood what heroes are about so much better than a comic book company did. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	comicoz 2009-09-01 08:29 pm UTC (link)
	Iron Man was my second favorite movie of the year, following only Wall-E. And now the two have merged. "Ok Wall-E, give me a heads-up display on where we're going." "Whoa." "What?" "Ev-a" "Have you been drinking?" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2009-09-02 12:54 am UTC (link)
	Tony then asks "Can I have some?" (Reply to this) (Parent)

	harpiesiren 2009-09-01 05:32 pm UTC (link)
	If I've learned anything from being a Kingdom Hearts fan, it's that there are people out there who just flat out refuse to see Disney as something that's not babyfied or evil or whatever. sigh This isn't the end of the world. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	leikomgwtfbbq 2009-09-01 10:25 pm UTC (link)
	thumbs-up I think business will continue more-or-less as usual. Except maybe there'll be more Disney comics, or something. IDK. That'd be pretty neat, though. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	thandrak 2009-09-01 05:50 pm UTC (link)
	Aw, man, someone used that thing I've been waving around in an article? Ha! (Reply to this)

	jlroberson 2009-09-01 06:52 pm UTC (link)
	Did Peter...just tell someone to take a dump? This begs the question, of course, of a couple other steps he'd need to explain. I hope he has that Robert Crumb poster in his bathroom or it could get messy, especially with that white costume. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	halloweenjack 2009-09-01 06:59 pm UTC (link)
	I'm pretty sure that that's the Beyonder from Secret Wars II; he based his mortal body on Steve Rogers' before turning his hair black and giving himself a perm. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-09-01 07:03 pm UTC (link)
	Doesn't change my question. Given the way he found wonder in every mundane human experience, I can only imagine what Peter had to put up with then. "This feeling...of RELIEF!" "Uh yeah." "And the sound and the splash, it's--" "Shut UP." "What is this strange fragrance?" "Oh god." (head in hands) "Everyone else gets the cool godlike beings. EVERYone else..." (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-09-01 08:59 pm UTC (link)
	Beaten only by Superman having to explain the newly mortalised Vext how a toilet works "Sometimes you have to jiggle the handle" (Reply to this) (Parent)

	comicoz 2009-09-01 08:26 pm UTC (link)
	The article points out the Disney-Pixar as an example, but there's a major difference in this situation: Pixar was the clear victory, and basically sold to Disney to allow them to continue doing things their way. They negotiated from strength, and because of that have the nigh-involate "hands-off" policy that they do. This is not the same. (Reply to this)

	taggerung301 2009-09-01 08:38 pm UTC (link)
	well this is a relief sounds like things will pretty much stay the same (Reply to this) (Thread)

	harpiesiren 2009-09-01 10:12 pm UTC (link)
	Of course they will. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	taggerung301 2009-09-01 10:56 pm UTC (link)
	do I detect sarcasm? (hard to tell on the internet) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	harpiesiren 2009-09-02 12:03 am UTC (link)
	Stupid text based communication. :/ It's more that I'm saying "Of course it'll stay the same, what did you expect?" in an exasperated way of someone who's getting a little tired of the general public's "OMFG RUINED FOREVER" reaction. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	taggerung301 2009-09-02 01:50 am UTC (link)
	haha, i suppose i was one of those people i wasn't quite so much OMFG RUINED FOREVER, but I previously only associated Disney with Mickey Mouse and such - didn't know that they owned a lot of less PG-oriented enterprises - and was a little concerned (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ashtoreth 2009-09-02 01:27 am UTC (link)
	Not to be mean, but that article doesn't actually answer questions. Just more of the 'wait and find out when it's blatantly obvious' party line. And Marv Wolfman's analysis of Quesada's 'great creative moves' seems suspect. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-09-02 04:25 am UTC (link)
	That's Quesada's usual answer to most important questions, if you've ever read "Cup o'Joe." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ex_darkblade992 2009-09-02 02:59 am UTC (link)
	I love how they feel the need to apologize for the fact that this probably won't be the end of OMD/BND. (Reply to this)

	There's only one thing I want to know. nefrekeptah 2009-09-02 05:08 am UTC (link)
	Is Marvel going to be reprinting old Disney comics? And if so, does that mean we'll get "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" reprinted? Because that would be awesome. (Reply to this)