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arbre_rieur ([info]arbre_rieur) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-08-15 01:40:00

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Entry tags:char: badrock, creator: alan moore, publisher: image comics, series: when alan moore was crap, title: violator vs. badrock

When Alan Moore was crap (Violator Vs. Badrock, Part 2)
Before we continue our trek through the absolute low point of Moore's career, here's an excerpt from an interview where he explained how he came to be working on projects such as this for McFarlane and Liefeld in the first place. I figured some people might be interested. Here it is:

Moore: "Sometime--obviously before 1963 came out, after I'd been approached for it--Todd McFarlane, who I didn't know, phoned up and asked if I wanted to do an issue of Spawn. At the time, knowing very little about this, my thinking was that all I really knew about Image was that they're the opposite of DC and Marvel and that sounded pretty good to me, you know? That was really all I needed to know. I figured that if they're making mischief, then I'm generally in favor of them even without having necessarily seen the books. Todd McFarlane called up and asked if I'd want to write an issue of Spawn, which I really didn't know what Spawn was. But I said, "Yeah I can write one," and I said that before he'd offered me any money for it, you know? When he started to tell me how much money he'd give for doing it I kind of demurred and said, "Look, I'll do this for whatever the going rate is," just to be generally supportive of something which at the time I saw as fighting back against the big companies.
"So yeah, I did a couple of other stories for Todd McFarlane, for Rob Liefeld. . ."


And thus were born some truly awful stories. Well, speaking of which, onto the second half of Violator Vs. Badrock...

When we left off, Badrock and the Whiteside Parsons Institute had been transported to Hell.





Badrock throws the giant squid monster into the counterfeit angel, sending it crashing down.




These are Violator's brothers: Vaporizer, Vindicator, Vandalizer, and Vacillator. They're Moore creations. They absolutely hate Violator.



Violator takes the opportunity to skedaddle.







Badrock discovers that Dr. McAllister, the blonde scientist, has left the building to collect plant and soil samples from Hell. Now he needs to go find her.





He's devised a plan to lure Violator and his brothers into following him away from the building.











Badrock rescues her. The two head back for the Institute building, but Violator attacks them, wanting the guidance sphere. He in turn is set upon by his brothers.



Some of Badrock's lines, like the one above, make me wonder if Moore remembered that he's a kid in an adult body. Does that line really sound like something a kid in the 90s would say?



And yet, still better than Moore's Spawn/WildCATs mini-series.


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[info]jlroberson
2009-08-15 08:51 am UTC (link)
Why do you hurt me? I had to use a chisel to remove the parts of my brain that remembered that story. It was days of very messy work that led to oFasenhFLIUSGEFKUHSGDJISDFOSFHCCAssional spasms to the present. And yet. And yet! You make me see it again?

Okay, more precise work will be needed. Where's my X-acto knife...

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[info]arbre_rieur
2009-08-16 06:31 am UTC (link)
If you erase your memory of having read the comic, then what's to keep you in the future from reading it again, seeing as how you won't remember having read it in the first place? You'd be all "Oh, an Alan Moore comic I've never read" and the cycle would repeat ad infinitum.

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[info]jlroberson
2009-08-16 08:07 am UTC (link)
Sigh, you're right. Out with the whole thing. At last, I will be able to enjoy Rob Liefeld.

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[info]thebat_man
2009-08-18 12:08 am UTC (link)
HAHAHA.

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A dramatic reenactment of my reading this post
[info]tanetris
2009-08-15 03:07 pm UTC (link)
"Moore interview: Rage against the Man, blame McFarlane, Liefeld (LIEFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELD)"

Deadpool-wannabe-trash-talking, fight, fight, more Deadpool-wannabe-trash-talking, hell, V-brothers, fight.... Whatever. *scroll-scroll-scroll-scroll-pause* Mmmmm, ass. *scroll-scroll-scroll-scroll-end*

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Re: A dramatic reenactment of my reading this post
[info]liarashadowsong
2009-08-15 07:48 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, pretty much. Except my scrolling past the blatant ass-shot involved rather less "mmmmm" and more "wtf". Also, why are the blond lady's eyes pure white in at least half the panels where they are visible and open? *sigh* This certainly isn't the worst comic I've seen by any stretch, but it doesn't draw me into the story at all, nor am I fond of the art.

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[info]galateus
2009-08-15 03:53 pm UTC (link)
(Hey, your Spawn/WildCATs link only goes to the final scanned page of this thing again...)

Great, more perfectly interesting story elements getting dragged down by overwhelming crap. I liked the philosophical "But why do we pursue the stereotypically beautiful screaming human women in particular?" tentacled monstrosities--even the cosmic foodchain exposition wasn't bad.

It's like it's trying to be meta but it just sort of sucks.

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[info]arbre_rieur
2009-08-16 06:08 am UTC (link)
Oops, there wasn't supposed to be a link there. I haven't put up Spawn/WildCATs yet.

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[info]blake_reitz
2009-08-15 04:31 pm UTC (link)
I like the designs of some of these demons, if not the actual art.

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[info]aaron_bourque
2009-08-15 05:51 pm UTC (link)
Positive Comics Week isn't turning out the way I expected.

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[info]arbre_rieur
2009-08-16 06:27 am UTC (link)
I actually thought about going all "Hey, in honor of Positive Comics Week, I'm holding off the 'When Alan Moore was crap' and putting an actually positive scene from his work during this period." But then I realized I couldn't think of a single such scene from his work of this period.

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[info]foxhack
2009-08-15 06:20 pm UTC (link)
*stabbity stabbity stabbity*

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH

*stabstabstab*

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[info]midnightvoyager
2009-08-15 08:54 pm UTC (link)
As reeeeally awful as this is, the fire-headed techno-angelic thing is... kindof a really cool design, actually. If it were in, say, a post-apocalypse or Morrowind or something.

Also, the tentacled... thing... with... er... the clear glass helmet full of fog? That's also a cool design.

Otherwise, OW OW OW AGH

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[info]psychop_rex
2009-08-16 07:53 am UTC (link)
I dunno - I actually enjoyed that. It seemed to me that Moore was perfectly aware that he was perpetuating a crap character in a crap comic book, so as long as he was there, he might as well have some fun. If you read it that way, the whole thing is pretty much a parody of the Image line in general, and McFarlane's chunk of it in particular. ("They LOVE me there! I have ACTION FIGURES!") And honestly, what ISN'T funny about the line "Wait! Wait! I got my barbs caught on his pancreas!"? Sure, none of it is brilliant by a long, long shot, but honestly, if anyone OTHER than Moore had written this, it would be seriously reprehensible crap. As it is, it's just low-quality.

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[info]arbre_rieur
2009-08-16 08:39 am UTC (link)
I admit, I'm partial to "Where the HERE is he going?" myself.

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[info]psychop_rex
2009-08-16 08:21 pm UTC (link)
Must have missed that one... But yeah, good line.

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