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Tweak says, "Not my gum drop button"

drsevarius (drsevarius) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-31 20:15:00

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creator: brian michael bendis, creator: jonathan hickman, creator: stefano caselli, publisher: marvel comics, title: secret warriors

Secret Warriors #6

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	shanejayell 2009-08-01 12:28 am UTC (link)
	Okay.... Totally OOC? Or Anal Skrull? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	queenursula 2009-08-01 12:33 am UTC (link)
	She's a spy for Fury; she isn't really working with HYDRA. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlbarnett 2009-08-01 02:14 am UTC (link)
	with her phrasing it might be possible whatever's in the box has driven her nuts (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	lieut_kettch 2009-08-01 02:48 am UTC (link)
	It's good. All Nick has to do is take his shirt off and Val will snap out of it. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	aaron_bourque 2009-08-01 01:14 am UTC (link)
	What are you talking about? All women are evil, didn't you know? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-08-01 01:29 am UTC (link)
	She isn't really working with HYDRA. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-08-01 02:20 pm UTC (link)
	As she's just casually opened the handy "BOX'O'DOOM", are you sure? If Hydra have been running SHEILD for years, her being a high ranking HYDRA agent makes as much sense as anything. And since Fury is going on and on and on about how he only trusts certain people, it would make sense that one of the people he trusts, he really can't. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-08-01 02:37 pm UTC (link)
	So we know someone in HYDRA's inner circle is a traitor. And it's implied she's the one who pressed the panic button that brought Fury's Caterpillars. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	daningram 2009-08-03 05:06 pm UTC (link)
	Ya know, given the short list of suspects and her own past, you'd think that she'd be smarter than that. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	arilou_skiff 2009-08-01 12:19 pm UTC (link)
	Especially women with boxes. (although it was really a kind of clay pot, IIRC) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-08-01 05:36 pm UTC (link)
	women with boxes Isn't that all women? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ashtoreth 2009-08-03 04:55 pm UTC (link)
	That IS one of the metaphors for the Pandora's box myth. (Reply to this) (Parent)

adon_ca
2009-08-01 10:11 pm UTC (link)

They're being coy as to whether Val is spying FOR Fury or if she's betraying him, and presumably has been for some time. If it's the former, I will be mildly pleased. If it's the latter, well, I can't say I would be shocked considering the premise of this book is that everything we knew was wrong whether it makes sense or not, and we are living in an age where character and continuity are strictly secondary to the stories they want to tell RIGHT NOW. It would make me unhappy, yes, but at this point Marvel has done so much to make me unhappy that it's like kicking a dead puppy. It's mean and disrespectful, but the puppy at least can't feel it any more.

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	mcspakypants 2009-08-01 12:29 am UTC (link)
	I can't praise this book enough. Hickman's writing and Bendis's plotting are spot-on, and Casselli's art is beautiful. (Reply to this)

	daningram 2009-08-01 12:33 am UTC (link)
	Oh how I yearn for the books that applied intelligence to characters in the intelligence community. Ah well... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	mechanicaljewel 2009-08-01 01:18 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, I could definitely do without Daisy's whole "WHY DON'T YOU, MY SUPERIOR OFFICER WITH 7 DECADES OF COMBAT AND SPY EXPERIENCE, TELL ME, SOME CHICK WHOSE NAME YOU PROBABLY JUST DREW OUT OF A HAT, WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	queenursula 2009-08-01 01:28 am UTC (link)
	The previous page had Fury saying that if she wanted to ask him something, then to just ask it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mechanicaljewel 2009-08-01 01:32 am UTC (link)
	Did he say she would get an answer? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	queenursula 2009-08-01 01:34 am UTC (link)
	No, but it's not like she's just asking him out of the blue. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stig 2009-08-01 12:16 pm UTC (link)
	Heh, just like Jesus. "Ask, and ye shall recieve!" "Okay. If your Dad's so great and all, why does he keep wiping out large masses of people who fall under specific criteria?" "Shutupshutupshutup! I don't have to answer your questions! I'm going and getting crucified!" "Great. Now I feel confused AND guilty." (Reply to this) (Parent)

daningram
2009-08-01 02:12 am UTC (link)

Actually, that's one of the few things that make sense in this book.

Daisy's training means she's only above average in the game she's in. She's facing foes with superior training, firepower and experience. Nick Fury is the only buffer between her and a slow and painful death. And he's being a complete douche.

Nothing else about this series makes sense, though. How Hydra has been running Shield for decades, why Fury is relying on a bunch of wet behind the ears kids or how these kids are supposed to be from off the grid sources. Fury found them by asking social services!

IMO, there's no evidence that the writer has thought his plots through. And IMO, spy stories may not need airtight plots, they need to at least stand up to inspection. And Secret Warriors don't.

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	ashtoreth 2009-08-03 05:03 pm UTC (link)
	But Daisy is a former Mary Sue! In Secret War she was all threatening all the heroes and shit! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	daningram 2009-08-03 05:08 pm UTC (link)
	She's lost the protection that Bendis provided, that's why she's scared! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	warpedhand 2009-08-01 02:06 am UTC (link)
	And this, children, is why you don't make an 18 year old a top level intelligence officer. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	daningram 2009-08-01 02:13 am UTC (link)
	She's risked more than Fury has, and really is in far more danger. Things go south, Fury knows how to survive. Secret Warriors? Less so. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	fromtheaether 2009-08-01 12:11 pm UTC (link)
	Minor detail. The team is called the Caterpillars. Secret Warriors refers to them, Hydra, the Commandos, and even HAMMER (sort of). (Reply to this) (Parent)

	proteus_lives 2009-08-01 02:29 am UTC (link)
	I've said it before and I'll say it again. When Nick Fury fucks with you...he FUCKS with you. (Reply to this)

	kali921 2009-08-01 02:34 am UTC (link)
	So, Kenuichio's hand got all better, huh? Where in canon did I miss that his hand grew back after his last loppity-lop fight with Logan? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-08-01 02:40 am UTC (link)
	He has an artificial hand. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	kali921 2009-08-01 02:53 am UTC (link)
	I'm shocked, given his resources, that someone hasn't cloned him a hand and just grafted it on. Where, by the way, was it shown that his hand is artificial? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-08-01 02:26 pm UTC (link)
	I thought it was shown in New Avengers, but I was wrong. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	stig 2009-08-01 07:07 am UTC (link)
	THE BOX WHAT'S IN THE BOX (Reply to this) (Thread)

	beastman12010 2009-08-01 11:22 am UTC (link)
	Marcellus Wallace's soul. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	arilou_skiff 2009-08-01 12:20 pm UTC (link)
	All the miseries of the world... And hope. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stig 2009-08-01 12:22 pm UTC (link)
	I can just see Hercules suddenly cupping a hand to his ear. "What was...ah, crap, not again. You put a label on a box saying "Don't open the box", and then some lousy woman...ugh. Stupid box." (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	comicoz 2009-08-03 03:19 pm UTC (link)
	WIN! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	tahngarth 2009-08-01 12:12 pm UTC (link)
	Black Widow is actually Black Widow who's working for Fury while the Hydra chick is actually Contessa who's working for Fury. So every Marvel villainess is actually another female character working for Nick Fury? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	stig 2009-08-01 12:18 pm UTC (link)
	You wait until Madame Masque reveals herself as Gwen Stacy. You just wait. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	tahngarth 2009-08-01 12:27 pm UTC (link)
	That's just silly! ...it's cleary Aunt May... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stig 2009-08-01 12:35 pm UTC (link)
	Slaps Forehead Of course, what was I thinking! Gwen is blonde! She's the one leading the Dark X-Men! And, of course, we'll find out that The Hood is in fact secretly Squirrel Girl. He's annoying, he seemingly can't be defeated, the other villains respect him, he acts like a little girl...isn't it obvious? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	tahngarth 2009-08-01 12:39 pm UTC (link)
	Emma Frost was replaced by Gwen Stacy near the end of Generation X, it's why she suddenly went from responsible headmaster to seducing Cyclops. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

stig
2009-08-01 12:51 pm UTC (link)

It's the Skrulls of today. Invasion of the Traitorous Hot Chicks. Sooner or later we'll discover that Dr. Doom's Mum, Mephisto, MJ, Jean Grey and Wanda Maximoff were all the same person wreaking devastating havoc on the Marvel U.

And then they'll all turn out to be the alternate personas of Typhoid Mary and she'll become the new head of S.O.C.K. (Strategic Offensive Crapfest Killers).

And then Bendis will finally have enough money for the operation.

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	tahngarth 2009-08-01 12:53 pm UTC (link)
	I'm afraid to ask which operation... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	stig 2009-08-01 01:26 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, fuck all of this. I can't be bothered to mock inferior bits of writing anymore. So long, s_d. I'm out. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	aaron_bourque 2009-08-01 05:38 pm UTC (link)
	The one that removes his head and implants it on an ape body? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	tahngarth 2009-08-01 06:00 pm UTC (link)
	Like the Ultra-Humanite? Or Gorilla-Man? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aegof.livejournal.com 2009-08-02 07:36 am UTC (link)
	Or Giganta? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	aaron_bourque 2009-08-02 09:38 am UTC (link)
	That that one Headman. A group Bendis wouldn't touch with a 15' pole, except to murder gruesomely to make one of his pet characters look more bad ass. And thus failing. (Reply to this) (Parent)