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jlroberson (jlroberson) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-16 23:42:00

Current location:	Seattle
Current music:	Brainless McGee, Song Stylist of the Appalachians. Whom I just made up.
Entry tags:	char: indigo, event: blackest night, group: green lantern corps, group: indigo tribe, group: sinestro corps

Nok Lok, Who's There?

From Blackest Night: Tales of the Corps #1. Make of this what you will.

Last page removed at someone's request. Sinestro guy threatens her, his energy goes into her staff.
I should also mention they let the Sinestro Corps guy get away. They use fear to drive him off.
So how do you interpret this?

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	thokstar 2009-07-17 06:51 am UTC (link)
	Nak nek klee klok. Nik klok lak lee. Bak bee lok klek. Nok Klak nee. Bok? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Bok Bak lak. nefrekeptah 2009-07-17 07:05 am UTC (link)
	Nik lok nee nok zee nak nok. Lak vee clok - clee bak zok lok. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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dorksidefiker, 2009-07-17 05:41 pm UTC

	Counter agrument. silverzeo 2009-07-18 04:22 am UTC (link)
	Bubsnik Bub bub snik. Jimmy Shunga. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BETHIGFTpk (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-07-17 07:09 am UTC (link)
	I'm going to assume this is down to the fact we don't have the whole story, but I interpret this as being really rather unclear storytelling. Did the Indigo person force the Green Lantern energy to mercy-kill it's own wearer? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2009-07-17 07:22 am UTC (link)
	Given the general struggling, kicking, and arm-grasping, I'd be fine calling that a regular old kill, rather than the merciful variety. I don't think it ever bothered me before how nonchalant the rings seem about the death of their wearers, but this whole excerpt sort of gives me the creeps. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	jlroberson 2009-07-17 07:25 am UTC (link)
	That's all of the part the GL has. And yes, I believe she does. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	statham1986 2009-07-17 10:00 am UTC (link)
	A mercy-killing equals compassion to some degree, right? If he's that badly messed up and on the brink of death, better to put him out of his misery rather than let him suffer more. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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ian_karkull
2009-07-17 08:40 am UTC (link)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that the Indigo Lanterns are able to absorb/redirect the energy of other Lanterns.

Also, you'd think that an instrument as advanced as the Green Lantern ring would at least be able to discern basic phonological and syntactical structures from that sample, given how it can instantly translate every other language in the universe.

Klak nok indeed.

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	vignettelante 2009-07-17 11:13 am UTC (link)
	Presumably this means that their mindset is supposed to be impossibly alien. Which means that though they feel as much compassion as anyone, the way they express it is through...well, smotherin' dudes, I guess. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	icon_uk 2009-07-17 11:21 am UTC (link)
	Unless the langage is either A) too complex (modifying itself in terms of group dynamics and situations) B) not a langauge as we would undserstand it at all, but a phonetic side effect of a telepathic communication or C) Something consciously blocked from the GLC by the Indigo's. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	nymphgalatea 2009-07-17 11:52 am UTC (link)
	Makes senst they can redirect, given that the Orange Lantern -their opposite on the colour scale- can apparently suck up other Lanterns power & keep it for himself. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	sd_mouser 2009-07-17 12:01 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe they're programmed to not understand something specific by the little blue bastards. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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kamino_neko
2009-07-17 12:08 pm UTC (link)

A different theory - she was trying to aid the Lantern, but, being unable to understand her, he fought it, and his struggles prevented her from properly healing him.

(I've been in the hospital a LOT, and, even knowing what's going on, I've been in such blind panic that several nurses have had to hold me down to keep me from hurting myself, several times. Now imagine if some strange person was taking YOUR power and doing something to you that you don't know what it is.)

However, on the unsettling side, this story, combined with some stuff said about them in interviews, suggests the Indigos are like the Reds, in that joining their ranks involves allowing your identity to be subsumed completely by the Indigo Tribe and its mission - notice none are given names, they speak a language not in the GL rings' database, etc...

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sherkahn
2009-07-17 01:14 pm UTC (link)

just based on the images alone, i am going to assume it's compassion, but not for the ring-bearer. but for the ring and the ring's function itself.

If the ring can't fulfill it's true function, then the ring is turned on it's owner. What if it's the other way around this time. In all previous corps, the lantern rings serve the wearer. In this case, maybe the wearers serve the lantern, like a primitive society would.

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	shanejayell 2009-07-17 03:13 pm UTC (link)
	So did they... kill him? confused (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	pyrotwilight 2009-07-17 05:00 pm UTC (link)
	Hate to be a spoil sport but ya gotta take one page down since it was a 6 page story. (Reply to this)

comicoz
2009-07-17 05:54 pm UTC (link)

Best part of Tales of the Corps #1? Except for this story which is the first true appearance of the Indigo corps, the stories therin are self contained and add flavor to the main Blackest Night without requiring that you buy this book to understand it.

That's how you right a freaking tie-in! Hate hate hate *waves red ring* "required" tie-ins (I'm looking at you, Final/Infinate Crisis).

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	The emotion of Compassion. grimmbear 2009-07-17 06:01 pm UTC (link)
	I think she gave him the OK to die instead of his will forcing him to fight on to a more painful death. She also gave the Yellow a taste of his own medicine. Compassion would not kill unless the target wanted to go, or it was needed for the target to find peace. (Reply to this)

	kali921 2009-07-17 07:47 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe it's just IE being wonky, but putting the scans side by side makes them almost impossible to read. :-( (Reply to this)

	runespoor7 2009-07-17 07:54 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe if 'compassion' equals 'empathy' and 'empathy' equals 'taking other people's emotions for yourself', and if you burn your dictionary, it kinda makes sense? Or Johns is going for a more 'compassion is pity, and pity smothers (literally)' approach. I have no idea, but I'm entertained. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	ghosty732 2009-07-17 11:37 pm UTC (link)
	Though I still HATE how sexualized Indigo looks, she looks less bitchy than the promotional art/toys we've seen so far. She could use more clothing, but her eyes almost look... compassionate... in the first few panels. ... And then she proceeds with the crazy. I'm not sure I understand. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	silverzeo 2009-07-18 04:18 am UTC (link)
	So Indigo is simply Karma? (Reply to this)

	pyrotwilight 2009-07-19 04:32 am UTC (link)
	Like I said earlier, please fix the post. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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xandertarbert
2009-07-20 03:05 pm UTC (link)

Maybe it's a Othar Tryggvassen situation. This war is going to hurt the universe in a big way, so the quickest and therefore most merciful way to end it would be all the Ring-Bearers die. She uses the GL's ring against him because they don't have any attack powers of their own, but they can have a ring attack it's bearer with physical contact. The flip-side is that most direct attack with other Rings won't work on them either.

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The Indigo Language
(Anonymous)
2010-02-25 03:00 am UTC (link)

The only fact we know for certain is that the ring is programmed with every known language in the Universe. If the ring is therefore unable to translate a language, there are several reasons why this may be:

- The language may predate the existence of the Green Lantern Corps to such a degree that it was either unknown or thought extinct by the time the rings were made. The only flaw in this theory is that the Indigo Lanterns seem perfectly comfortable speaking intelligible languages when they wish to, showing that they have had at least some interaction with the Universe at large.

- The indigo lanterns could be from the future which would neatly explain how they can speak a language the ring does not know but also know other languages. The only problem with this theory is that the Green Lantern Corps have a fair understanding of the future and are capable of time travel. Indigo-1 also makes references to events in the GL's relative past.

- As another poster has suggested, they could be from a pre-Crisis alternate universe.

- The language could simply have evolved in isolation from the rest of the Universe and never come to the GL's attention.

- The Indigo Lanterns have shown themselves to be able to manipulate other Lanterns' rings. Their presence may have knowingly or unknowingly tampered with the functioning of the porcine Green Lantern's ring in some way.

- The GLC may have intentionally omitted this language from their database either because they thought it was extinct (see above), because they found it useful to have a language at their disposal that no one else could understand or perhaps more interestingly because this language is in fact their native tongue so they had no need to include it for translation as they already knew it.

- The ring may indeed be familiar with the language in question but may have lacked some frame of reference that was necessary for a full translation such as speed, tone or since the Indigo was asking a question, might require a set response in the same language before being fully translatable.

Any thoughts please feel free to e-mail me at greenlantern@email.com

All the best,

Hal

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