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roily_rogue (roily_rogue) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-11 14:42:00

Current mood:	hungry
Entry tags:	char: nightcrawler/kurt wagner, char: omega red/arkady rossovich, char: wolverine/akihiro/daken, char: wolverine/logan/james howlett, group: x-men, publisher: marvel comics, title: uncanny x-men, title: x-men: manifest destiny

Why it sucks to be Kurt Wagner (or: "Healing factors are for sissies")
Let's take a look at just how much punishment Kurt's taken the last couple years:

X-men #205 (part 5 of Messiah Complex)

And here is his awakening in the infirmary in New X-men #46 (chapter twelve of Messiah Complex). When trying to figure out the timeline, I came up with this being merely a couple days afterwards:

This is from the following chapter of MC - X-men #207. He's looking awfully spry for someone who was just teleported away from the infirmary after waking up from a near-lethal wound. And I have no idea where his bandages went:

After Messiah Complex was over and he went on vacation with Logan and Piotr. He's still healing from the wound and is using a cane.
In Uncanny X-men #497, this happens:

And in Uncanny X-men #498, this:

Still, right after that, (Uncanny X-men #499), he takes care of Omega Red:

In Uncanny X-men #500, he is punched in the face by Magneto. I don't have the comic, so no scan, sorry, but I wanted to point it out because of the insult to injury.

Moving on,
Secret Invasion: X-men #2:

And in #4, he gets punched in the lower regions by a Skrull, but I do not have the issue, so no scan.

X-Infernus #1:

And then came his X-men: Manifest Destiny - Nightcrawler one-shot. Where he decides to quit the X-men for some reason. He gets shot anyway:

But hey, all in a day's work:

Kurt returns to the X-men, re-invigorated! And in Uncanny X-men #509, he gets stabbed by Spiral. No issue, so no scan. But this time, Elixir heals him and from Kurt's amazed reaction, I take it it's the first time.

And then we have Wolverine Origins #34, where he gets stabbed in the guts by Daken.
He gives something back, though. He may be injury-prone, but you can't complain about his fighting spirit:

From Wolverine: Origins #35

Still...SIGH.

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	sandoz_iscariot 2009-07-11 11:44 pm UTC (link)
	Who'd have thought it'd be sp easy to injure a teleporter. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	roily_rogue 2009-07-12 07:35 am UTC (link)
	I know, right? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ex_zemo315 2009-07-12 12:05 am UTC (link)
	It's starting to get ridiculous, isn't it? One could start to think the reason why he was in the background for so many years was because he knew exactly what would happen should he step forward. Guy sure is lucky the bad guys in the Marvel Universe are about as accurate with killing shots as imperial storm troopers >_> (Reply to this) (Thread)

	timemonkey 2009-07-12 02:17 am UTC (link)
	Maybe the bad guys have caught on that killing X-Men doesn't take so they just go for the hurt instead? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	bariman1987 2009-07-12 03:35 am UTC (link)
	Injuring X-Men keeps them out of the action for about as long as killing them, without the added threat of Wolverine or whomever coming after them in revenge while they're dead. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thokstar 2009-07-12 05:22 am UTC (link)
	Wasn't there a World War Hulk: X-men tie-in where Hulk pointed out that injuring X-men was more effective than killing them? Not only was death not likely to stick, but if you injure one, then the other team members are forced to rescue the injured one, which is a distraction. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	stolisomancer 2009-07-12 12:27 am UTC (link)
	See, the second and up gunshot wounds don't count, because they all went through the same hole. Dude gets shot in the right shoulder like I go out for milk. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	halloweenjack 2009-07-13 06:33 pm UTC (link)
	He should have a little window there. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	roily_rogue 2009-07-13 08:06 pm UTC (link)
	One thing that cracks me up is he's been walking around with a big "x" on the chest of at least one costume, but he's never gotten shot there. Maybe the guy's just subconsciously suicidal. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	suzene 2009-07-12 12:35 am UTC (link)
	Man. Those first few pages are ridiculously frantic, even for action scenes. Makes me appreciate Choi's art all the more. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	roily_rogue 2009-07-12 07:16 am UTC (link)
	Bachalo's art is definitely messy. I'm not a very big fan of his work, but it has more to do with him not drawing hands very well and all his women having identical faces (while the men's are varied). (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	suzene 2009-07-12 09:43 am UTC (link)
	Bachalo and, I think, Ramos? Between the two, I can get motion sick just turning a page. I suppose that's impressive, in it's way, but I do not count it as a plus. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kaileighblue 2009-07-12 02:11 am UTC (link)
	I think it falls a bit under, If he were at full capacity or awake for certain things he would be an auto win/getaway. Since her upgrade, Pixie's gotten it a lot, too. (Reply to this) (Thread)

roily_rogue
2009-07-12 07:39 am UTC (link)

Maybe. There was that Manifest Destiny short story where his poor performance was blamed on him getting easily distracted due to grieving Kitty. Supposedly he got some closure at the end of that, but are we to assume that's still the problem or what? I wish they would at least explain it in a satisfactory way, but I'm starting to suspect it's become a meme at this point, and they're just doing it for giggles.

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	ex_zemo315 2009-07-12 10:03 am UTC (link)
	I'm starting to suspect it's become a meme at this point, and they're just doing it for giggles. That...actually makes sense... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	heat16 2009-07-12 09:09 am UTC (link)
	I love Kurt, but nothing annoys me more than badly written german. It should be "Ich war es nicht", not "Es war nicht ich" (Reply to this)

	icon_uk 2009-07-12 10:19 am UTC (link)
	Ouch! How can they injure someone so blue and pretty so often? Poor Kurt us going through shoulders the way Chuck Dixon's Nightwing went through ribs! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	bariman1987 2009-07-12 07:41 pm UTC (link)
	Poor Kurt us going through shoulders the way Chuck Dixon's Nightwing went through ribs! Do we at least get the benefit of frequent shirtless scenes? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	roily_rogue 2009-07-13 04:33 pm UTC (link)
	If only! But no.:( (Reply to this) (Parent)

	unknownscribler 2009-07-12 04:57 pm UTC (link)
	I like the AoA version of him who has no compunction about simply teleporting peoples' heads off. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	roily_rogue 2009-07-13 04:33 pm UTC (link)
	Sometimes I wish 616 Kurt would. I might just be starved for him DOING something, though. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	goblinthebamf 2009-07-12 07:34 pm UTC (link)
	oh, Kurt... really, at some point, you should get around to adding some armor to that uniform. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	roily_rogue 2009-07-13 04:31 pm UTC (link)
	Weren't unstable molecules supposed to be bullet-proof at some point? Or did I just make that up? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	seawolf10 2009-07-14 01:41 am UTC (link)
	You might be thinking of Ultimate X-Men. Their uniforms were made out of some kind of improved Kevlar that could stop rifle rounds. (One of the few times Mark Millar EVER had a good idea...) (Reply to this) (Parent)

goblinthebamf
2009-07-14 11:48 am UTC (link)

I think so, at least in theory... I suppose you might argue that in a few of those examples, the shooter's powers or the weapon itself could get around the armor, but I don't know how to explain the Bavarian peasant tagging him with the shotgun beyond "Kurt needs a flesh wound to get sympathy from and banter with the cute girl".

but really, what other reasoning do you need?

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	ex_thefreak389 2009-07-12 10:46 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you! I have been so annoyed at this for a long time and thought about doing the same. Of course you would have to include the 80's XMEN as well, where he was shot, beaten by an angrey mob and injured by the Marauders (which is why he wound up in Excalibur after the XMen left him on Muir Island). It truly is a meme at this point. (Reply to this) (Thread)

roily_rogue
2009-07-13 04:48 pm UTC (link)

Oh, he had quite a track record even BEFORE Messiah Complex. I just focused on this era, because it's over such a short time-span.

But sure, before that he was shredded by Riptide, had his leg broken by Captain Britain, was shot in the back with a crossbow bolt by the Neo, stabbed by a Mystique look-alike, shot with a regular bullet by people-smugglers, zapped on two separate occasions by a fake Cyclops, had a plane thrown at him by the Hulk, was nearly drowned by Omega Red, etc etc etc.

Kurt's been a punching bag for as long as I can remember, really. I'm not even counting all the times he's just been plain knocked out without any serious recovery time needed. It's kind of sad.

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	psychop_rex 2009-07-14 01:08 am UTC (link)
	It's in continuity, I believe, that mutants tend to heal faster than normal humans as a general rule. After Kurt has healed from his broken leg back in 'Excalibur', Kitty mentions this, and says that normally, she would have left the cast on for another month. So presumably flesh wounds tend to heal pretty quickly, even if they are fairly severe. (Reply to this)