Hm, I never really considered Guy's elevated status at the time in that way, probably because he came so close to caricature that I figured he was meant to be a negative representative of that line of thinking. It's interesting the way the pendulum swings, especially when you consider that the movie properties are likely to become darker after the success of the The Dark Knight. Or maybe it'll be limited to the Batman franchise.
I only know of Extrano through his infamous reputation. I think I'll consider myself lucky.