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Tweak says, "bro"

scottyquick (scottyquick) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-05-31 18:57:00

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char: mon-el/lar gand, creator: david curiel, creator: james robinson, creator: jose wilson magalhaes, creator: renato guedes, publisher: dc comics, title: superman

A splash page from Superman #688

So what do you guys think of this scene? My view of it was that Mitch was hitting on ~~Mon-El~~ Jon, what with the "strapping fellow" comment and him telling Jon not to be a stranger. The awkward use of ... I forget the word, but it's like "positive adjectives" would be foreshadowing if it were a guy and a girl. James Robinson's been pretty LGBT friendly from what I've seen in Starman, so this wouldn't surprise me.

This book is pretty neat. Is anyone else here picking it up? I LOVE Renato Guedes' art so much, and the writing is picking up.

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icon_uk
2009-06-01 07:17 pm UTC (link)

Well, you'll need to put this under a cut, it's way too big.

As a Brit, we call it "cocoa" too, but the other term is "hot chocolate", "drinking chocolate" is known, but rarely used.

Mitch could well be trying to chat him up, but he needs to work on his line "Geez, you ain't done much with YOUR life" is pretty much guaranteed to NOT make we want to give your cafe business.

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	scottyquick 2009-06-01 07:22 pm UTC (link)
	I knew I forgot something! Thanks for the memo. I've never called it "cocoa", and never heard it called "cocoa" in Newfoundland or Ontario, so I'm wondering if that's an American/British thing, or if I just live in a spot where everyone calls it "hot chocolate". (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	parsimonia 2009-06-01 09:04 pm UTC (link)
	I think I've heard it called "cocoa" before, but now I'm not sure whether I've actually heard people I know calling it that or if I've heard it on TV or read it in books. Bah! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ghosty732 2009-06-01 11:06 pm UTC (link)
	I live in Ontario. It's almost always called "Hot Chocolate" but I've heard people say "hot cocoa" before in almost a joking tone (I've said it myself). (Reply to this) (Parent)

	greenmask 2009-06-01 11:05 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, "drinking chocolate" is what's written on the tin sometimes (usually when it already has sugar in, I think? or sugar and milk powder? rather that straight cocoa), but I don't think I've ever heard anyone call the liquid form that. Which is a shame, cos it sounds so proper. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

icon_uk
2009-06-02 07:52 am UTC (link)

From Wikipedia

Americans have come to use the terms "hot chocolate" and "hot cocoa" interchangeably, obscuring the considerable difference between the two. "Hot cocoa" is made from powder made by extracting most of the rich cocoa butter from the ground cacao beans. "Hot chocolate," on the other hand, is made directly from bar chocolate, which already contains cocoa, sugar and cocoa butter. Thus the major difference between the two is the cocoa butter, which makes hot cocoa significantly lower in fat than hot chocolate, while still preserving all the intrinsic health-giving properties of chocolate.

Hot chocolate can be made with dark, semisweet, or bittersweet chocolate, chopped into small pieces and stirred into milk with the addition of sugar. American hot cocoa powder often includes powdered milk or other dairy ingredients so it can be made without using milk.

In the United Kingdom, "hot chocolate" is a sweet chocolate drink made with hot milk or water, and powder containing chocolate, sugar, and powdered milk. "Cocoa" usually refers to a similar drink made with just hot milk and cocoa powder, then sweetened to taste with sugar.

And now I want some! But it's a boiling hot day and it's bad for the teeth.. but even so... :(

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	greenmask 2009-06-02 01:50 pm UTC (link)
	Bad for the teeth but good for the.. taste nodes..? Mmmm. It does say right there that cocoa has health-giving properties! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	04nbod 2009-06-02 07:20 am UTC (link)
	my grandpa calls it drinking chocolate. I don't like the stuff personally but thats what I've grown up hearing (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

icon_uk
2009-06-02 07:48 am UTC (link)

Thinking about it, it might be something deiberate.

Cadbury's definitely marketed their chocolate drink as "Drinking Chocolate" rather than "Cocoa" and Bournville released theirs as "Cocoa", so it might have been a consicous efffort not to differnetiate between the drinks, but the major manufacturers.

Indeed, there used to be an advert in the UK for Cadbury's which used the lines

"Cup hands, here comes Cadbury's
Cup hands, drinking chocolate
Cup hands, here comes Cadbury's now"

but that was probably last screened in the 80's or early 90's.

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	bluefall 2009-06-01 07:28 pm UTC (link)
	Oh he's definitely hitting on him. I wouldn't call that a splash page, though. Two-page spread? A splash would be all one panel. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	unknownscribler 2009-06-02 05:36 am UTC (link)
	I dunno, "splash" is a logical thought given how very obviously Mitch is hitting on Mon-El here. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	retro_nouveau 2009-06-01 07:43 pm UTC (link)
	It's just harmless flirting at this point. We'll know it's on when ~~Joey~~ Mitch says, "Hey, Jon! How you doin'?" (Reply to this)

	daggerpen 2009-06-01 07:55 pm UTC (link)
	Hmmm. It certainly reads like flirting, now that you point it out- I don't know if it'll go anywhere romantic, but I could see it. (Reply to this)

	nevermore999 2009-06-01 08:30 pm UTC (link)
	He IS hitting on him. Nifty. I hope they get together, they're cute, and I would get to ogle pretty boys making bedroom eyes at each other. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	scottyquick 2009-06-01 08:38 pm UTC (link)
	I was terrified my slash goggles were on waaaay too tight. I also want to ogle pretty boys drawn by Renato Guedes making bedroom eyes at each other. (Reply to this) (Parent)

galateus
2009-06-01 08:30 pm UTC (link)

I sort of had trouble telling them apart at first, in the face-panels where you can't see what shirt they're wearing. Now I see the difference--it's all in the eyebrows.

At first I just accepted it as "Oh, a super-friendly businessperson. He's like that neighborhood mom who always tries to feed all her kid's friends," but by the point where he segued into talking about Paris, then I looked back and said, "Flirt."

Mon-El's sure come a long way from waiting on a cure for lead poisoning in the Phantom Zone.

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	mullon 2009-06-01 08:34 pm UTC (link)
	That was the most boring flirting EVER! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	unknownscribler 2009-06-02 05:37 am UTC (link)
	It's in a Superman comic. That it's even boring flirting is an achievement. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	sinisterlink 2009-06-01 09:10 pm UTC (link)
	He's either flirting with him, or he's the most overly friendly guy EVER. Seriously, guys like that scare the crap out of me. Then again, I'm somewhat introverted, so that's to be expected. (Reply to this)

greenmask
2009-06-01 11:09 pm UTC (link)

That panel where he tastes the.. what is that, a sammich? pizza? is that what a panini's supposed to look like?

The panel where he tastes the food and his hand is all curly curled is a great bit of observational drawing.

I didn't read it as flirting, but now you've mentioned it, I can see that. And I am seeing THINGS in the sentence about engines pulling in at stations.

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	icon_uk 2009-06-02 07:51 am UTC (link)
	What on earth is a "sammich"? Is that different from a "sandwich"? :) And no, panini should NOT look like it's been cut from a pizza, they are rectangular in shape, not sliced from a circle. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	greenmask 2009-06-02 01:47 pm UTC (link)
	It is different only in its spelling. I've been trying to get over my derision of the word sammich because it's so comfortable to say. So I use it at opportunities such as this! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	tavella 2009-06-01 11:42 pm UTC (link)
	It definitely feels like flirting. The "strapping" bit in particular -- if the cafe guy was older, it could come off as a parental, but with a 20-something guy? Yeah, flirting. (Reply to this)

	espanolbot 2009-06-02 09:20 am UTC (link)
	Huh, didn't know that Mon-El had an English accent. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	sir_razorback 2009-06-02 10:42 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, I forget where it was mentione dat before, but he's basically saying that it's an english accent so nobody looks at him too closely for not talking in a typical american sounding accent. (yeah I know, pick your region of the US for 'typical'. =p Try not to look at it too closely). (Reply to this) (Parent)

	nymphgalatea 2009-06-02 11:49 am UTC (link)
	I love Mon-El, I really, really do. It breaks my heart that he's inevitably going to be shoved back into the Phantom Zone. (Reply to this)

	darkknightjrk 2009-06-02 04:54 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, is a two-page spread like that really necessary for such a scene? And yeah, that's a pass if I've ever seen one. (Reply to this)

sir_mikael
2009-06-02 05:04 pm UTC (link)

I'm thinking flirting. All them nice words, smiles, eye contact and pushyness.
Didn't Mon-El find out he's dying? Isn't that the perfect time for "Time is running out, and I've never really experienced much, certainly not luuuv, oh hey here's this cute guy, maybe I'll experience some love and then die in his arms or go off into another dimension never to see him again".

Then again the "don't be a stranger"-comment is a bit of a "shoo, go away now". Unless of course Monny is on his way out there.

I would like to point out my knowledge of Mon-Els backstory is limited at best, and don't know if he's ever been romantically linked with anyone.

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	bariman1987 2009-06-05 12:25 am UTC (link)
	I was flipping through some comics as Books-A-Million the other day and saw some pages of Guardian and the SCU fighting Shrapnel. Was that this issue? It stuck out to me because the last time Guardian fought Shrapnel, it ended... badly. (Reply to this)