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muffinator (muffinator) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-05-30 12:53:00

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char: marvel girl/phoenix/jean grey, char: polaris/lorna dane, char: scarlet witch/wanda maximoff, creator: joe ahearne, creator: serge lapointe, creator: steve kurth, publisher: marvel comics, title: fantastic force

Stay classy Marvel
I looked back a bit and I haven't seen this posted but I just joined so I might be mistaken in which case forgive the repeat.

So when I looked through Uncanny X-men on a recent bout of masochism my righteous feminism sense were all ready pinging and on the last page of Fantastic Force they went wild. (There's some alternate timelines involved before people go 'where did this come from' on me.)

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Edited because I don't want the focus to be on my comments on comics and on the panel itself.

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	statham1986 2009-05-30 12:57 pm UTC (link)
	'Marvel is spreading out their suck by having Yost write Runaways (and even more suck in that apparently the NXM get a cameo so he can traumatize them some more).' Someone really needs a chill pill on this note. Yost is only writing Runaways for the month, and as a matter of fact, it was actually better than the crud we put up with for nine months or so. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	muffinator 2009-05-30 01:00 pm UTC (link)
	You can have your own opinions. I can have mine. I hate Yost's work and I've given up on reading Runaways but it makes me sad to see Marvel continually hiring the man. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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statham1986
2009-05-30 01:01 pm UTC (link)

PLUS, exactly what's your issue with the final page of Fantastic Force? All three of the women have gone through extremely dark patches in their respective histories, be it Jean's Dark Phoenix phase, Lorna's mental breakdowns and being screwed with by Magneto and others, and Wanda's own dubious mental breakdowns and causing the House of M. If they're plucked from different points of their careers, from alternate universes, then just what is the issue?

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	muffinator 2009-05-30 01:04 pm UTC (link)
	Are you aware of the background and connotations of the root hyster in "hysteries"? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	merrickm 2009-05-30 01:08 pm UTC (link)
	Ryan North can explain it to you better than I can. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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long_silence
2009-05-30 01:03 pm UTC (link)

Have you actually read Yost's latest Runaways story? He wrote them before during the Secret Invasion mini, but Runaways 10 was so much better. It was a good story and the NXM didn't get traumatized in their cameo. They actually got to have fun like normal teens and weren't forced to pointlessly fight the Runaways.

Slott's handling of Vision is a bit off (he's a glorified iPod really). But really I like that the Young Avengers are getting out there. And I still think that Marvel is saving Wanda's real return for Heinberg for some reason.

What was wrong with the latest Agents of Atlas?

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	bluefall 2009-05-30 01:51 pm UTC (link)
	... that's just sad. (Reply to this)

	kagome654 2009-05-30 02:18 pm UTC (link)
	Hysteries. Right...I would have preferred 'We are are the women of the mysterious wandering womb.' (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	tavella 2009-05-30 02:50 pm UTC (link)
	Hysteries? HYSTERIES? Jesus _Christ_ I swear they must not allow any female editors to even speak in Marvel's office these days. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	stolisomancer 2009-05-30 03:10 pm UTC (link)
	Well, if nothing else, I learned something today about the roots of the word "hysteria." I probably should've made the word association on my own. (Reply to this)

	sandoz_iscariot 2009-05-30 04:32 pm UTC (link)
	Who wrote this, so I know never to buy anything with their name on it? (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	(Anonymous) 2009-05-30 05:04 pm UTC (link)
	Who was the 4th member? (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	cosmos666 2009-05-30 06:42 pm UTC (link)
	Damn! I was going to post this page today. My backgroung as psychology student made this page completely pop out the first time I read it. Now I'm actually interested in seeing where this mess is going. Also Jean!!!!!!! (Reply to this)

	ook 2009-05-30 06:47 pm UTC (link)
	The top two "ladies" look like men in drag. :P I think they should have called themselves "The PMS Avengers." It would have been less blatant and more tasteful. (Reply to this)

	dorksidefiker 2009-05-30 07:03 pm UTC (link)
	'scuse me, I need to hit myself in the face repeatedly with a brick so this hurts less. (Reply to this)

	ar_feiniel_ 2009-05-30 07:35 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, that's just...wow. (Reply to this)

	mysteryfan 2009-05-30 07:39 pm UTC (link)
	Hmm. I don't like hysteries one bit. But are you doing feminism a favor with Muffinator? (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	volksjager 2009-05-30 07:41 pm UTC (link)
	I picked up the first issue and didn't get the point of it at all. This only makes me more lost. Pass... (Reply to this)

	starwolf_oakley 2009-05-30 07:52 pm UTC (link)
	I remember some of this was covered in Action Philosopher Comics. Way back when, doctors thought men couldn't get hysterical because a man didn't have a uterus. (Reply to this)

	pyrotwilight 2009-05-30 08:57 pm UTC (link)
	shrug I actually liked the name I mean its hysteria and history combined and makes sense given the characters. Though I was confused. When had Polaris gone evil or insane in Marvel continuity? (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	gayinpublic.wordpress.com 2009-05-30 09:09 pm UTC (link)
	Wow. I almost bought this because of seeing those three on the cover, due to my particular fondness for Wanda and Jean when they're not evil. Very glad I passed. (Reply to this)

	zegim 2009-05-30 10:03 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, for the love of... That name. The implications are awful. Just, no. (Reply to this)

ex_menagerie993
2009-05-31 02:39 am UTC (link)

I do think the writer was trying to evoke the Furies. I also think they utterly failed due to a bloody stupid name. Even ignoring historical implications (because not everyone knows the etymology of the words they use), it's just a shitty name. Period (pun very little intended ;).

It's actually a cool and damn frightening idea to have these three (don't care about Harpy much honestly) team up at the height of their crazy/evil phases to end the world. (Though, can't we have a Promethea-like *good* end of the world for once Marvel? Seriously.) Especially with the air of "you really have no fucking prayer" that they seem to have.

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	lookingforsigns 2009-05-31 02:10 pm UTC (link)
	Sexism aside (and yeah, that is...yeah), "hysteries" just looks weird. How would you pronounce that? (Reply to this) (Thread)

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sir_mikael
2009-06-01 03:39 pm UTC (link)

That's... a weird name. Hard t pronounce to boot. But seriously who calls themselves hysterical or something of the like? You don't even have to know the original uses of that word because being called hysterical is still not a good thing (a bit more gender neutral expression these days tho). So calling your own team that? Weird.

Btw, anyone else thought of the recently seen alternate universe in Exiles where these three ladies were the top of the ruling elite and friends (well associates and family perhaps more appropriate)?

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