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Tweak says, "I want you.... to want.... ME!"

colonel_green (colonel_green) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-05-18 15:05:00

Current music:	I Kissed A Girl by Katy Perry
Entry tags:	char: enchantress/sylvie lushton, char: wiccan/billy kaplan, creator: mark brooks, creator: paul cornell, genre: solicitations, group: young avengers, publisher: marvel comics

Dark Reign: Young Avengers #4

The solicit and cover for August's YA story.

The solicitation:

DARK REIGN: YOUNG AVENGERS #4 (of 5)
Written by PAUL CORNELL
Pencils & Cover by MARK BROOKS

The New New New Young Avengers have found that they can't live with what the Young Avengers are asking of them. And so they approach Norman Osborn once more, and get their deal with the devil. So now the question is: do the Young Avengers want to be part of *their* team? And how much more pressure will it take before someone throws the first punch?

1) Sorry, Sylvie or whoever you are, but your usual way of handling things is probably not going to work here.

2) I'm not sure that even counts as a skirt (though it does make for easy access).

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	dorksidefiker 2009-05-18 01:17 pm UTC (link)
	The only way this could end is with Billy setting her hair on fire. (Reply to this)

	kagome654 2009-05-18 01:29 pm UTC (link)
	I already kind of like the Dark Young Avengers (can we start calling them 'The Young Masters of Evil' yet?). Also, I see pheromones/magical mind control in Billy's future. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	dorksidefiker 2009-05-18 01:34 pm UTC (link)
	Just remember, Covers Always Lie. Warning: TVTrope! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	colonel_green 2009-05-18 01:40 pm UTC (link)
	Coming soon, the "Straight Wiccan Saga". (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ayam692001 2009-06-04 11:22 pm UTC (link)
	Please be kidding... (pleasebekiddingpleasebekiddingpleasebekidding) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	proteus_lives 2009-05-18 01:36 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe the M. Night twist is that she uses magic to be a women and she is auctally a he. (Reply to this)

	poor choice of music, colonel_green. poor choice indeed scottyquick 2009-05-18 01:45 pm UTC (link)
	What's most annoying is that on one cover, they do more then Billy/Teddy have done in 25 issues. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: poor choice of music, colonel_green. poor choice indeed suzene 2009-05-18 05:44 pm UTC (link)
	sigh Motto. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: poor choice of music, colonel_green. poor choice indeed colonel_green 2009-05-18 06:46 pm UTC (link)
	Seemed the appropriate song for the entry. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: poor choice of music, colonel_green. poor choice indeed scottyquick 2009-05-18 06:59 pm UTC (link)
	Only problem is that it's followed by "and I LIKED it!" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: poor choice of music, colonel_green. poor choice indeed colonel_green 2009-05-18 07:11 pm UTC (link)
	That'll be the crux of Wiccan's drama. It's a classic battle between good and evil impulses! (or whatever) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: poor choice of music, colonel_green. poor choice indeed felinephoenix 2009-05-18 06:48 pm UTC (link)
	Seriously. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: poor choice of music, colonel_green. poor choice indeed sessile29 2009-05-18 09:15 pm UTC (link)
	Jesus, this. Erg. >:( (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: poor choice of music, colonel_green. poor choice indeed a_xolotl 2009-05-19 04:29 am UTC (link)
	Yep. That's such B.S. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: poor choice of music, colonel_green. poor choice indeed ayam692001 2009-06-04 11:30 pm UTC (link)
	Now that's something worth complaining about! Anyone care telling marvel that? I would but they wouldn't listen... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	long_silence 2009-05-18 01:48 pm UTC (link)
	Ignoring the straightness because it's obviously a combination of mind control or Covers Always Lie. It's a very nice cover, Billy looks badass and seems to be ignoring the chick hanging off his neck. (Reply to this)

	skitty_kat 2009-05-18 02:10 pm UTC (link)
	Put her down, Billy. You wouldn't know what you were doing. Also, the way her plait is dangling down between his legs there ... distracting. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ex_naela777 2009-05-18 02:15 pm UTC (link)
	ARGH! Now I can't NOT look at it! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	skitty_kat 2009-05-18 02:22 pm UTC (link)
	Heh heh. My work here is done. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ghosty732 2009-05-18 02:28 pm UTC (link)
	First thing I noticed, sadly. Beautiful cover, though. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	skitty_kat 2009-05-18 02:26 pm UTC (link)
	Also, correct me if I'm wrong (I mean, I've only got one), but taking proportions into account shouldn't you be able to see a bit of minge there? I can't stop staring and trying to work that out. (Reply to this)

	volksjager 2009-05-18 03:23 pm UTC (link)
	I don't even think she would need to bend over to see action in that skirt... (Reply to this)

	ian_karkull 2009-05-18 05:43 pm UTC (link)
	Well, the Enchantress obviously is a very skilled sorceress and while Wiccan has potential, he lacks a lot of control. So she could be tempting him with power. ~~Or just be a colossal fag hag.~~ Too easy. (Reply to this)

	pyrotwilight 2009-05-18 06:15 pm UTC (link)
	Why is Teddy shapeshifted like Enchantress? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ayam692001 2009-06-04 11:24 pm UTC (link)
	You just made NOT hate this cover (even knowing that's most likely not the case)... I LOVE YOU! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	pyrotwilight 2009-06-05 12:15 am UTC (link)
	Then my work here is done. I think it might be a fun story to see Teddy shape shifted as Enchantress with Billy acting like a turncoat and using his own magic to simulate Enchantress' and have Teddy and Billy try to learn more about the Dark YA. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

ayam692001
2009-06-05 12:28 am UTC (link)

Sweet!!!
Dear, do I need to read more of this title... Up until now I only read #1, is anything more out yet? Anyways, I'll drop over my local comic store today after english class... but it'd be more then a mircle to find any YA there... or anything recente for that matter since whatever comes out in the US take 1 or 2 months to arrive at the said store... BUT one can always hope for a better future, right?

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	felinephoenix 2009-05-18 06:46 pm UTC (link)
	Okay, I know they're probably not going to straighten Billy, but that's still a damn unfortunate cover. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	colonel_green 2009-05-18 06:54 pm UTC (link)
	Why would it be "unfortunate"? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	felinephoenix 2009-05-18 07:12 pm UTC (link)
	I think having one of Marvel's few gay characters pose with a Sexy Woman on a cover to have some Unfortunate Implications, personally, although I'm sure it wasn't Marvel intention. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	colonel_green 2009-05-18 07:17 pm UTC (link)
	They're the team's magic characters, and she's a seductress type; if anything, it's a bit humourous if he's in a magic thrall (something that would normally have sexual connotations if he was straight); not that Wiccan's showing any particular interest here. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

felinephoenix
2009-05-18 07:22 pm UTC (link)

Except that, thanks to how she's posed, this cover's still "sexier" than anything Billy's done on-panel with his boyfriend.

I get the logic behind the cover, I understand they're similar power-wise and that she's not trying to turn Billy straight. I'm sure, like others have suggested, that if there is any "seducing" here it's going to involve power and not sex... but I still find the cover irritating.

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sessile29
2009-05-18 09:11 pm UTC (link)

Well, I dunno - I haven't been keeping up with the YA lately, so the first thing I thought when I saw the cover was "Oh, Christ - are they going to make Billy straight for this story or worse, in general?" Since Billy and Teddy don't get prominent indications that they're together in the first place, and de-gayifying characters has happened before (in general media), it's not that far of a stretch to fear that it might happen to these two, and that cover really does not help.

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	colonel_green 2009-05-18 09:33 pm UTC (link)
	Given that Marvel's pretty desperate for popular diversity characters, I doubt it. If Marvel wanted them straight, they'd have told Heinberg to stick to his original plan. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	sessile29 2009-05-18 09:51 pm UTC (link)
	they'd have told Heinberg to stick to his original plan Oh? What was that? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	long_silence 2009-05-18 10:06 pm UTC (link)
	Make Hulkling a girl who only shapeshifted into a boy. Basically a reverse Xavin. (Reply to this) (Parent)

colonel_green
2009-05-18 10:11 pm UTC (link)

Heinberg's original idea was for Hulkling to be a girl whose "Hulkling" form was very male-looking (which was, incidentally, the prevailing fan theory about him until he was revealed to be clearly male), which Heinberg felt was the closest he could get to homosexuality. But he mentioned this to Quesada and Brevoort, and they told him to go ahead and make them actually gay.

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	sessile29 2009-05-19 03:09 am UTC (link)
	Huh... that's actually pretty cool of Marvel to do that. :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

a_xolotl
2009-05-19 04:35 am UTC (link)

Admittedly, I don't follow this series that closely, but it IS on my radar since at least from what I know Wiccan/Hulkling are the only (young?..I know there's Midnighter/Apollo) gay comic couple around at the moment. But it really doesn't seem like it...where are the shots of them doing anything like that, ever? I haven't seen 'em. Ugh. Seems pretty easy to see who that cover is aimed at.

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	l_arlesienne 2009-05-19 05:32 am UTC (link)
	D: Yeah, I knew I wasn't like Dark Reign: Young Avengers. Couldn't she have been attaching herself to Tommy instead >.> And seriously Enchantress, it's winter here and your lack of clothes makes me feel cold. (Reply to this)

	jupiterrhode 2009-05-19 10:21 am UTC (link)
	If you ignoring the eww!Girl-parts, Billy looks really badass and hot right there. So I can say I blame her, honestly. (Reply to this)