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queenursula (queenursula) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-11-04 16:36:00

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creator: justiniano, creator: keith giffen, event: blackest night, group: doom patrol, title: doom patrol

Doom Patrol #4

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	mullon 2009-11-04 10:19 pm UTC (link)
	He's a jerk, but I will give Niles credit for the tricked out wheelchair. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	crinosg 2009-11-05 03:53 am UTC (link)
	Wonders why Barbera's Wheelchair doesn't have cool crap like that built into it (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	endis_ni 2009-11-05 04:33 pm UTC (link)
	Because all the technology sloped off in a huff when it realised it was being out-cooled by Babs? That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it. (Reply to this) (Parent)

jlroberson
2009-11-10 04:59 am UTC (link)

Something he's always had. I have a feeling that, if I were Niles Caulder, given that sitting meant turning my back on someone somewhere, I'd arm anything I sat in even if I could walk.

This post made me go check out this issue, and then the three before it. This is a decent and legit take, IMO, and I like it. I especially like that they've gotten to this weird shit so quickly. I've been a DP fan since reading reprints in the 70s, though I couldn't stand the run of the later book till Morrison came on--and I still worship the Morrison run and think it's one of the most enjoyable comics ever.

I think the DP are special, and I get really annoyed when there are versions that suck, or even just mediocre. Like Byrne's run, particularly that awful part posted here a bit back with the quasi-pedophilic moment between Rita and Cliff, which would be bad enough, but also in the same story he has a chance not to have the accident and she talks him out of it for odd, and entirely selfish, reasons. I hated Byrne's Rita. Which was NOT Rita. And his strange was...the wrong kind of strange for DP.

The two things I think I like best in this is that Giffen has pursued the Chief-As-Dick angle, and Larry's rather fractured personality. Am I right in thinking Rebis is still part of what he is?

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	asmith161718 2009-11-04 10:25 pm UTC (link)
	OMG. I love it!! (Reply to this)

	wizardru 2009-11-04 10:33 pm UTC (link)
	Yup. Dropped this as of last issue, and this is looking like I made the right choice. It's a bad sign when I'm rooting for the Black Lanterns on this one and think they're not being unfair manipulators but facing one, instead. Sorry, Metal Men. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	lencannon 2009-11-05 12:30 am UTC (link)
	I don't know if it is good or bad, but I AM rooting for the black lantern here. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

jlroberson
2009-11-05 01:27 am UTC (link)

Seeing Niles Caulder die horribly never gets old. He's not a character that inspires affection.

First time: seemingly blown up. Second time: Candlemaker rips his head off, and quite painfully too. Third time, his legs are frozen, shattered(kind of funny since his reanimated head was kept on an ice tray for some time), and his heart is ripped out.

Seriously, he shouldn't even have any atoms left by now.

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	manofbats 2009-11-04 11:43 pm UTC (link)
	Well I'll be damned. It was Cliff's body. This is great stuff. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	earthelemental 2009-11-05 01:32 am UTC (link)
	Black Lantern Cliff only wants back what's rightfully his. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ravenjade 2009-11-05 04:13 am UTC (link)
	His braaaaaiiiiinnn? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ladytimedramon 2009-11-05 04:50 am UTC (link)
	Kudos to whoever came up with that idea. I don't think ANYONE would have predicted that. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	v_various 2009-11-05 07:22 pm UTC (link)
	agreed. I use to think all of Blackest Night was a waste of time (the specific breaking point for me was Donna's baby biting her in the neck). But that kind of weird crap is owned by doom patrol, I can easily see their tie-in being the best. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	werehawk 2009-11-05 01:40 am UTC (link)
	I bought this for the ring. It was alright. I really liked the Metal Men backup though. (Reply to this)

	volksjager 2009-11-05 01:56 am UTC (link)
	I dropped this book after the first issue. I picked this one up (yeah, it was for the ring) and I have to say the balance between the two stories works really well. I am back on board. Why does Robotman need pants ???? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	manofbats 2009-11-05 02:01 am UTC (link)
	I like to think it's a force of habit. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-11-05 02:30 am UTC (link)
	What habit is that ??? Did Cliff get an upgrade of Robot junk ???? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	manofbats 2009-11-05 02:32 am UTC (link)
	No, just usually one of the first things every guy does every day is put on some pants. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	statham1986 2009-11-05 09:44 am UTC (link)
	Just so you know, the artist on this one isn't Matthew Clark, it's Justiniano, I think it's spelt. (Reply to this)

	synnerman 2009-11-05 11:05 pm UTC (link)
	YAYYYYY 'RANI!!!! She was one of my favorite characters in the 80s and I was PISSED when Caulder came back and fucked her over. GET HIM!!! GET HIM GOOD AND RIP OUT HIS HEART!!!! (Reply to this) (Thread)

To Quote Miller's Crossing

jlroberson
2009-11-10 04:48 am UTC (link)

What heart?

BTW, Cliff has an advantage here, assuming Giffen has preserved Morrison's continuity(which, btw, painstakingly depended on all the past DP before him--unlike Byrne): Cliff not only hasn't a heart--last I saw there was a nutrient tank there--but the Candlemaker destroyed his brain. The Chief had preserved his consciousness--laughably, on what appeared to be a 5 1/2" floppy--and thus Cliff can back himself up, and upload himself to a new body.

There was some allusion to this in this issue, with Larry pointing out that Cliff's basically immortal, and Cliff telling Larry to shut up.

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