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arbre_rieur (arbre_rieur) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-10-11 01:35:00

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creator: georges jeanty, creator: jane espenson, creator: joss whedon, title: buffy the vampire slayer

Buffy Season Eight #29

Retreat, Part 4

Who's that last word bubble coming from? It looks like Buffy, but the dialogue makes it seem like Willow.

Recall how the Slayers had their hands on a stolen submarine a few issues ago? Heh.

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	sherkahn 2009-10-11 08:55 am UTC (link)
	Two werewolves? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2009-10-11 09:02 am UTC (link)
	There's 3 in the scan (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-10-11 10:19 am UTC (link)
	I can see three. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	arbre_rieur 2009-10-11 06:13 pm UTC (link)
	They're a bunch of people who went to the temple to learn how to control their curse. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	superfan1 2009-10-11 09:00 am UTC (link)
	I hope oz wife don't die. :( (Reply to this)

	icon_uk 2009-10-11 09:23 am UTC (link)
	Why does, judging by build, the attacking enemy seem to be made up of skinny children? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	goldenbrowngod 2009-10-11 07:25 pm UTC (link)
	I haven't been following the title and so I assumed that was an army made out of young slayers (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	aaron_bourque 2009-10-11 09:37 am UTC (link)
	That's the best cover ever. And Xander's joking in the face of death still amuses me. Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; Buffy's probably just got another stick up her ass. She gets on average 3 of those a year, since she came back from the dead. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	dcanacek 2009-10-11 02:13 pm UTC (link)
	Buffy's pissed at Xander because when Buffy finally (after more than 7 years) realized he was a guy she wanted to have a relationship with, found out that he had moved on to Dawn. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	rattsu 2009-10-11 09:38 am UTC (link)
	I really want to care about this comic so badly, because I need a Buffy fix, but... everything I see posted from it just makes me sigh and shake my head in the worst season seven ways... (Reply to this)

	jeyl 2009-10-11 10:53 am UTC (link)
	What the devil are they doing fighting an army? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-10-11 11:17 am UTC (link)
	IIRC the Army is working for Twilight, the "big bad" for the comic arc, a magically empowered person who seeks the annihilation of the Slayer army and an end to magic (Yes, it's sort of contradictory) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	404glitch 2009-10-11 11:19 am UTC (link)
	The US Army sees a group of super-powered girls with their own agenda as a threat to them. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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janegray, 2009-10-11 06:58 pm UTC

Yeah, that and True Blood as well.. -

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So why not ask help from Angel? -

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	jlbarnett 2009-10-11 01:39 pm UTC (link)
	the writer fails to realize that Slayers are only about as dangerous as werewolves up against a tank. THis issue did help with some of the issues I had with this storyline. But not all. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	majingojira 2009-10-11 01:40 pm UTC (link)
	I really can't get back into it until they explain how Harmony can get away with killing people on National Televison. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	arbre_rieur 2009-10-11 06:09 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, but it's not like they ever planned to send the Slayers against tanks in the first place. Their plan was to hide from Twilight specifically because they knew they were no match for his forces, and that's when they had powers. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jeyl 2009-10-11 01:58 pm UTC (link)
	What year does this comic take place? I may be mistaken, but I do believe the army's camouflage is out of date. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	majingojira 2009-10-11 02:10 pm UTC (link)
	Not to mention inapropriate for the environment. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	bj_l 2009-10-11 10:22 pm UTC (link)
	The first issue was eighteen months after Chosen, give or take. I'm assuming every arc takes place over a pretty short amount of time so I'd put this all early or mid '05. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	purpleprose 2009-10-11 02:21 pm UTC (link)
	Bleh. Another reason I'm glad I stopped buying this after the first couple of issues. It's just so mediocre and boring the more I see of it. (Reply to this)

There's so much wrong with this I don't know where to start.
(Anonymous)
2009-10-11 03:29 pm UTC (link)

I'll admit. I haven't seen the continuation to this. I am, however, going to extrapolate based on the characters' reactions and descriptions of this "brilliant" tactic.

There are many reasons that this is not just stupid, but painfully stupid.

1. Look at that terrain. Even on skids and being pushed by Slayers, that torpedo should have all the speed and accuracy of a hippopotamus on ice. It hits one crater or bump and it's going to go off the mark, or tip over.

2. Armour does not bunch up like that, unless they absolutely have to, like passing through a chokepoint or a city street. It's convenient to let one blast tank out multiple vehicles, true... but that is precisely why they don't do it.

3. Real military forces aren't like RPG AIs. They don't attack along one vector and nowhere else. The Slayers' home is out in the open. Even provided using this torpedo takes out this one force, they've still got the attackers on the other 350 degrees of their base to worry about. Or at least, they should.

4. Aircraft. Even if you don't want to use jets for whatever reason, no modern mechanized push goes through without gunship support if they can help it. The monastery is a helicopter's wet dream. Unprotected targets all clustered together without any anti-aircraft defences (I assume) mean that one pass would be enough to obliterate the Slayer Army.

5. Torpedoes work on a contact/proximity fuse. For example, there's a lot of ballyhoo about the threat that antiship mines pose to sealife. Mine contact fuses are specifically designed not to detonate like that. Wave action will not set off a mine. A dolphin or whale brushing up against it will not set off a mine. A destroyer, freighter or other large, heavy object will. You want your torpedoes to go off as close to your target as possible, not set off from water pressure or if it smacks into something en route.

By the same token, a torpedo's proximity fuse is utterly useless, because it either relies on acoustic, pressure waves, or magnetic sensors to detonate.

A tank does not emit the same sounds as a submarine or ship under water.

This is air, not water. No significant pressure waves.

Submarine metal content >> tank metal content.

Unless Xander has tinkered with the fuse mechanism. In which case, he's a damn idiot.

That being said, Buffy thinking that using werewolves against tanks was a good idea is absolutely hilarious.

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	Re: There's so much wrong with this I don't know where to start. jlbarnett 2009-10-11 04:47 pm UTC (link)
	she doesn't think it's a good idea, she's just taking all the help they can get. The writers don't realize they've created a threat that only Willow could deal with, (Reply to this) (Parent)

Re: There's so much wrong with this I don't know where to start. - (Anonymous), 2009-10-12 12:34 am UTC

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	stolisomancer 2009-10-11 07:39 pm UTC (link)
	Well, if nothing else, I like the cover. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	cmdr_zoom 2009-10-12 05:03 am UTC (link)
	Y'know, I bet that in Chinese, the place they're at translates as "Valley of Serenity." (Reply to this) (Thread)

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	xdoop 2009-10-30 07:37 am UTC (link)
	When did Willow find out about the future? (Reply to this)